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Wait a minute! Carrie was undercover???
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That was a plot twist of 24 proportions. So did Saul tell her the mission when he visited her in the hospital and she told him to go f**k himself?
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Carries reaction when alone watching Saul testify at the inquiry doesn't add up if she was undercover all along.
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That was a plot twist of 24 proportions. So did Saul tell her the mission when he visited her in the hospital and she told him to go f**k himself?
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I take back all those nasty things I've said about Saul this season.
That final scene, two brilliant actors at the top of their game. |
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Wait a minute! Carrie was undercover???
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I take back all those nasty things I've said about Saul this season.
That final scene, two brilliant actors at the top of their game. |
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Carries reaction when alone watching Saul testify at the inquiry doesn't add up if she was undercover all along.
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According to Alex Gansa, if you watch it again, you'll understand that she's not surprised by what she's hearing. She's actually just amazed at how it affects her to understand that she is to blame for what happened.
Brilliant really. I didn't for a second think she was undercover.. although I was struggling to believe she would go that much off the rails at times. I suppose it all makes more sense now. Another thing we learnt tonight, Saul doesn't trust the other CIA guy. Or at least was happy to use him. |
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The plan could only work if it was clearly shown that she felt aggrieved and was willing to blab to the press about it.
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Carries reaction when alone watching Saul testify at the inquiry doesn't add up if she was undercover all along.
Does it? http://www.tvguide.com/News/Homeland...a-1072323.aspx |
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Yeah that's what I was just thinking.
Brilliant really. I didn't for a second think she was undercover.. although I was struggling to believe she would go that much off the rails at times. I suppose it all makes more sense now. That being said, this is a woman who is mentally ill anyway and who can become more unstable when not medicated properly. |
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Yeah that's what I was just thinking.
Brilliant really. I didn't for a second think she was undercover.. although I was struggling to believe she would go that much off the rails at times. I suppose it all makes more sense now. |
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The plan could only work if it was clearly shown that she felt aggrieved and was willing to blab to the press about it.
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So why the need for all the drug injections in the hospital to render her semi conscious which she was shown to be clearly resisting?
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Ok.
Does Saul actually know/believe Brody wasn't behind the Langley bomb? |
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So why the need for all the drug injections in the hospital to render her semi conscious which she was shown to be clearly resisting?
It is easy to relapse especially in a high stress situation. |
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The writers are so genius, now will re-watching first three episodes.
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Good twist but I feel sorry for the guy she shagged a couple of times, never mind her keeping all her clothes on during the deed, then dipping your pockets it also transpires that to play someone mentally ill involves copping off with you....poor guy.
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Well I certainly didn't expect that! A good twist. Watching Carrie is a tense experience as you can feel the anguish knotting her up inside.
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Good link, as I agree with it;
Just when you started to think the Homeland team was writing season 3′s scripts in Crazy Carrie’s green pen, Sunday night’s hour unveiled a twist that upended everything you have seen this season. The Emmy-winning Showtime drama series’ first few episodes this fall showed Carrie Mathison (Claire Danes) locked in a mental institution, publicly humiliated, betrayed by the CIA and — most hurtfully — thrown under the bus by her closest ally and father figure Saul (Mandy Patinkin). It was a brutal arc that left some viewers frustrated and dismayed. Then at the very end of tonight’s hour, there was this revelation: Carrie and Saul have been secretly in cahoots to ruin her reputation to lure out the mastermind responsible for last season’s memorial bombing. Suddenly it seems Carrie isn’t a reckless victim, but as the episode’s “Game On” title suggests, very much in the game, and has been this whole time. What’s particularly brilliant about this move is that Carrie’s live-wire methods and hunches constantly test the trust and faith of everybody around her. But fans are accustomed to being in the loop, and we get to feel righteously judgmental when others doubt Carrie because we know the truth. This season, the writers gambled by turning the tables: They tested our faith and trust — in Carrie’s sanity, in Saul’s morality, and in the wisdom of the show’s own narrative path. http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/10/21/ho...n-3-interview/ |
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I suspect this season will be best enjoyed in a non-stop marathon session where you watch all the episodes in one go - and you can see the arc unfold as it should. The weekly broadcast format does mean that we have too much time to dwell on things!
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A better episode but while I suppose I welcome the "twist" in order to give the plot somewhere to go, it is a bit of a cheat on the viewer to show Carrie as desperate to be freed from the institution even in her private moments, and to show Saul as trying his best to keep her in it, for us then to be told that it was a ruse.
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No it doesn't make any sense. Why inject her with drugs which she was clearly resisting in the scenes that we saw.? None of Carrie's reactions leading up to her hospital imprisonment make any sense if she was in on it. Even when Saul visited her he was told to f*** off. Only of he explained what was going on to her at that point would it make any sense but we aren't told that..
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A better episode but while I suppose I welcome the "twist" in order to give the plot somewhere to go, it is a bit of a cheat on the viewer to show Carrie as desperate to be freed from the institution even in her private moments, and to show Saul as trying his best to keep her in it, for us then to be told that it was a ruse.
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