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The plot twist doesn't excuse how boring the episodes have been so far imo. I'm still disappointed in the series so far. I'm not someone who needs it fast paced but I think they should have had more strands of the story going at once if that makes sense. Like, showing us more of Quinn and what's going on with Brody, even if it's just a little to keep it more interesting.
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A good point, but in hindsight I think she reacted like that because he took it too far. I don't think she expected to be treated like that by the hospital staff, so her reactions in the hospital were real.
Excellent twist . I love the relationship between Saul and Carrie . |
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They've now established a potential location link between the financial investigations and where we last saw Brody. Perhaps other threads in the story so far will converge in some way.
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The plot twist doesn't excuse how boring the episodes have been so far imo. I'm still disappointed in the series so far. I'm not someone who needs it fast paced but I think they should have had more strands of the story going at once if that makes sense. Like, showing us more of Quinn and what's going on with Brody, even if it's just a little to keep it more interesting.
I think they should have brought Brody in from the beginning and I missed him this week, but I suspect next week will be Brody's story so far.
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A ponderous episode, until the last 5 minutes. I'd quite happily leave the Dana storyline, but the Carrie one provides some kind of payoff to the last 3 episodes.
Agree with comments above that that final scene with Saul is beautifully acted. You can see how much it has cost Carrie in terms of her stability, and that Saul regrets what he has put her through even though it was in his eyes a necessary action. So now it appears we have completed the switch from Brody the double agent to Carrie the double agent. And his presence in Caracas is now surely no coincidence (as some suspected last week), given Quinn's assassination target and the money trail both leading back to the same city. It's way too early to say Homeland is back to its best, but I do think the writers are doing the right thing in layout out this drastic new direction over so long. It wouldn't have been plausible to just do it in one episode - we had to see Carrie's suffering and make it reasonable for a foreign party to assume she would consider turning. Now they just have to deliver on the premise ... My weekly review ... http://slouchingtowardstv.com/2013/1...3-ep4-game-on/ |
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They've now established a potential location link between the financial investigations and where we last saw Brody. Perhaps other threads in the story so far will converge in some way.
It's surely no coincidence that Brody is in Caracas. But to what end, I wonder? |
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Have to say again that people who want more out of a series of which only 4 episodes have been shown would never be able to read a book .
It's the unfolding of a story which holds the attention and if you don't have the ability to, in this case ,watch it unfold then see how things come together , then maybe you should be watching something more action packed from the start? |
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A ponderous episode, until the last 5 minutes. I'd quite happily leave the Dana storyline, but the Carrie one provides some kind of payoff to the last 3 episodes.
Agree with comments above that that final scene with Saul is beautifully acted. You can see how much it has cost Carrie in terms of her stability, and that Saul regrets what he has put her through even though it was in his eyes a necessary action. So now it appears we have completed the switch from Brody the double agent to Carrie the double agent. And his presence in Caracas is now surely no coincidence (as some suspected last week), given Quinn's assassination target and the money trail both leading back to the same city. It's way too early to say Homeland is back to its best, but I do think the writers are doing the right thing in layout out this drastic new direction over so long. It wouldn't have been plausible to just do it in one episode - we had to see Carrie's suffering and make it reasonable for a foreign party to assume she would consider turning. Now they just have to deliver on the premise ... My weekly review ... http://slouchingtowardstv.com/2013/1...3-ep4-game-on/ |
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Carries reaction when alone watching Saul testify at the inquiry doesn't add up if she was undercover all along.
Does it? |
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It doesn't have to, it was purely to keep the viewers off the scent...
I guess we'll see how it plays out over the serie, I suspect Carrie we end meeting Brody again. |
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Have to say again that people who want more out of a series of which only 4 episodes have been shown would never be able to read a book .
It's the unfolding of a story which holds the attention and if you don't have the ability to, in this case ,watch it unfold then see how things come together , then maybe you should be watching something more action packed from the start? I'm often left with that feeling why didn't I just tune in at the end as everything that had gone previously counted for nothing anyway. After two series the will he/won't he Brody scenario had run its course. This series is obviously a slow burner but after 4 episodes all i've got is Brody is in Venezuela, Carrie is deep undercover, some Iranian is behind the CIA bombing and I still don't care about Dana. Still be watching but it does feel like they are padding it out a bit. |
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It doesn't have to, it was purely to keep the viewers off the scent...
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Ok. That was a good twist. I'm not sure it completely hold up logically, but it's much more enticing now than it was before...
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This season of Homeland seems to be suffering from a major ratings slide :
http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/homeland-thre...151100836.html |
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I don't like this twist with Carrie being a double agent, I mean yes it's a good idea her being a double agent, but it's way too vague/subtle when/how she & Saul hatched this plan & also there are way too many factors involved. How did she know where one-night-stand man lived? I thought they did the deed at her place, & on the subject of her place, I thought she lived in a house, so how come there's communal underground parking?
I'm glad that Mike is still on the scene to support Jess. |
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it was a good twist , but I thought it was ridiculous that she went to Saul's house , and moreso that they spoke outside !
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After two series the will he/won't he Brody scenario had run its course. This series is obviously a slow burner but after 4 episodes all i've got is Brody is in Venezuela, Carrie is deep undercover, some Iranian is behind the CIA bombing and I still don't care about Dana.
Still be watching but it does feel like they are padding it out a bit. |
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it was a good twist , but I thought it was ridiculous that she went to Saul's house , and moreso that they spoke outside !
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They couldn't arrange a time and place as she wouldn't know when she would be able to get away and spending 5 hours making sure she wasn't followed.
Carrie and Saul are both very experienced CIA spies but for some unexplained reason they did not think of a way to communicate with each other in secret about their plan. |
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There surely has to be a reason for the presence of Leo beyond offering a (possibly dangerous) distraction for Dana? I sincerely hope so given the airtime committed to these two.
Really, though, the whole storyline smacks of the need to give Dana and Jessica something to do in Brody's absence, rather than write them out. I'm finding it difficult to either engage or care about this particular plot. |
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Well, we know now that he's a killer - whether accidental or otherwise.
Really, though, the whole storyline smacks of the need to give Dana and Jessica something to do in Brody's absence, rather than write them out. I'm finding it difficult to either engage or care about this particular plot. |
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Well, we know now that he's a killer - whether accidental or otherwise.
Really, though, the whole storyline smacks of the need to give Dana and Jessica something to do in Brody's absence, rather than write them out. I'm finding it difficult to either engage or care about this particular plot. |
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Well if that is true, then why not just have the son killed off, as he is of no relevance whatsoever.
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This sub-plot will give a bit of peril for Dana and some worry for Jess. Since I Sky+ the episodes, I can fast forward the Dana story knowing that I will not miss anything important before Dana is rescued.
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I think they should have brought Brody in from the beginning and I missed him this week, but I suspect next week will be Brody's story so far.
