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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers! (Part 2)
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Nihonga
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by feeVerte:
“Well…it was not too difficult for Nazir and this Javadi…
just don't run into Carrie and he would be all right ”

True. I suppose they'll (Saul?) re-recruit him at some point. As it is, Saul, Carrie, Quinn et al are currently running a semi-rogue operative outside the CIA. I wouldn't put it past them.

Originally Posted by Goaty:
“Yep, and teaser trailer of Homeland Season 3 shows Brody in actions.”

Ah, I didn't see the trailer. When you say "action", I'm assuming he does more than sit in a South American cell contemplating which is the better option: drug addiction or a Colombian bullet in the back of his head?

I like that Brody hasn't played a part in the drama so far. I honestly don't know where they can take his story, though it's convienent that he is held up in a gangster's cell. I don't see where he would fit in at the moment. I think a time will come when he can begin proving his innocent, but as it is, I like the time spent on Saul, Quinn and Carrie so far.
jeffiner1892
10-11-2013
When that girl turned up at the door my first thought was that it was the daughter of the woman that Dana and Finn accidentally killed last season.

That murder scene was on Red Wedding levels of brutality.
feeVerte
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by Nihonga:
“Ah, I didn't see the trailer. When you say "action", I'm assuming he does more than sit in a South American cell contemplating which is the better option: drug addiction or a Colombian bullet in the back of his head?”

the other poster may come back with more insight…as far as I can remember he was standing on a fast moving jeep looking as part of a guerrilla gang (possibly with a rifle in his hand?!?! not sure)

no idea if the other people on the car where his captors
solare
10-11-2013
Great episode (apart from Dana's part).

And although I like Brody, I think the series is working well without him, especially as the storyline is taking shape now.

Something I still don't understand is how the CIA identified Javadi, and the six people they assassinated, as being behind the Langley bombing. Especially, as they were so convinced that Brody was behind it after seeing his video.
Darth-Habib
10-11-2013
Originally Posted by solare:
“Great episode (apart from Dana's part).

And although I like Brody, I think the series is working well without him, especially as the storyline is taking shape now.

Something I still don't understand is how the CIA identified Javadi, and the six people they assassinated, as being behind the Langley bombing. Especially, as they were so convinced that Brody was behind it after seeing his video.”

The CIA knew that video was from before, from his attempt to blow up the Vice-President, so they like the rest of us assumed he was being set up.
the_lostprophet
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Fio Montoya:
“But I said I worry that the show will go downhill - I don't think it has yet, although the extremely tedious episode about Brody and Carrie did test me ”

Yeah I know but I meant that I think it went downhill in general a long time ago - as in circa season 2. Saying that, last night's ep was a good'un.
jammoon1
11-11-2013
I'm enjoying this series so far, even without Brody, and, hopefully, we won't see so much of whingeing Dana. I think it's much better than Series 2 and I'm finding it very involving ... even if I did get a bit confused as to who was who and who had done what to whom last night! Please excuse if I got the who and whom mixed up - always find that confusing!
solare
11-11-2013
It's a shame the episodes are so short. By the time you take away 20 minutes of Christmas ads and 10 minutes of Dana whinging, there's only only about 35 minutes left!

I wonder if the advertisers realised their chintzy, sentimental Christmas ads would be appearing before/after a woman being glassed in the neck with a broken bottle!

I'm hoping there's not going to be a baby Brody (only because it would reduce Carrie's role in CIA activities, if she has a baby). I wonder if she's doing the daily checks to ensure she is still pregnant or because she's hoping she's not.
slouchingthatch
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by EastEnder39:
“But he set up this mission without the authorisation of his soon to be new boss. Perhaps Saul believes they have come too far to jeopardise this operation he and Carrie have worked so hard to build, despite Carrie's recent attempts of derailing all their hard work. And Saul going to Lockhart now will no doubt only ruin the operation and he and Carrie would be out of the CIA within seconds. Something doesn't ring true with Lockhart anyone. Something doesn't add up. Maybe he is the mole.And as Quinn said, this is just the beginning. They have come too far now.”

That seems unlikely. Wasn't the mole within the CIA? Lockhart's only classified insights into the CIA have come since he headed up the Senate committee post-12/12. There's no evidence he had any access to privileged information before then - he's only a senator after all, not the President or one of his inner circle such as his National Security Advisor.
tom_domutoa
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by lovetochat:
“I thought Farah was a financial analyst? Why is she part of the operation?

Wouldn't Carries pregnancy have shown up in the hospital? There are so many tests, shes known for a while so why let Saul hospitalise and inject her with all sorts if she knew she was pregnant?

Where has Angela come from? Jessica just let Dana go? I thought that scene was awful. And Chris, in the background, mute and pointless! He didn't utter a word!”

Rewind and look at the Farah scenes again if you can.

When Javadi is being bought into the interrogation room, she has the exasperated yet worried look (like a daughter to a father) on her face.

When she tells Saul that the address belonged to a Javadi...she had a knowing look.

Farah is probably an iranian mole....and Saul knows it because he put her there. Saul is the biggest mole in this whole saga....going through the motions of preventing the bombings when he actually is running the bombing campaign.
Jenny_Sawyer
11-11-2013
If Carrie is pregnant then she needs to have an abortion. Who would the father be anyway - the guy she met in the off-licence?
Jenny_Sawyer
11-11-2013
How the hell is Dana going to support herself in Los Angeles? She hasn't graduated from high school yet has she.
Jenny_Sawyer
11-11-2013
Javadi needs to be handed over to the police, I don't care how important he is as a source or whatever, he's brutally murdered two innocent people & he needs to pay.
radcliffe95
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jenny_Sawyer:
“Javadi needs to be handed over to the police, I don't care how important he is as a source or whatever, he's brutally murdered two innocent people & he needs to pay.”

I'm afraid in the grand scheme of things, they simply don't matter.
FaithElizabeth
11-11-2013
Carrie can't have a baby surely? That would take her out of action for a while.
radcliffe95
11-11-2013
Please, please, please, please let that be it for the Dana storyline now.
barnsleykeith
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by FaithElizabeth:
“Carrie can't have a baby surely? That would take her out of action for a while.”

Maybe that's why she picked out a ginger haired Brody look alike to have random sex with? If she is pregnant(and they are not false positives) she can say he is the father.

What's the timeline with her pregnancy. The Langley bombing was in December IIRC and it's March now, according to the conversation with Javadi during the lie detector scene. So she about three months into her pregnancy. Assuming Brody is the Dad.
Casmana
11-11-2013
I think judging by Carrie's drawerful of pregnancy test sticks that she must test after each sexual encounter with different men . Or maybe does daily checks as suggested to hit on the correct man who impregnated her.

No way in a fit mental state to become a mother anyway . Her agitiation is palpable now .
SXTony
11-11-2013
So Saul and Carrie plotted this sting to get her in front of the bad guy and turn him way before they knew who planted the bomb, way before they knew about the money, way before they identified the bad guy and way before they had any dirt to turn him with?
lovetochat
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by tom_domutoa:
“Rewind and look at the Farah scenes again if you can.

When Javadi is being bought into the interrogation room, she has the exasperated yet worried look (like a daughter to a father) on her face.

When she tells Saul that the address belonged to a Javadi...she had a knowing look.

Farah is probably an iranian mole....and Saul knows it because he put her there. Saul is the biggest mole in this whole saga....going through the motions of preventing the bombings when he actually is running the bombing campaign.”



I've always thought something's not right with Farah. If she is a mole, (only on UK pace so I don't know) then it's a bit too obvious I.e I wouldnt be surprised.
batdude_uk1
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jenny_Sawyer:
“How the hell is Dana going to support herself in Los Angeles? She hasn't graduated from high school yet has she.”

Plus what was the point in thge mum (or mom) giving her the card without telling her the pin code? Without that it is pretty much useless!
Parthenon
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Plus what was the point in thge mum (or mom) giving her the card without telling her the pin code? Without that it is pretty much useless!”

It's not standard practice in the States for credit cards to use Chip and PIN technology.
Scotlass
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by radcliffe95:
“Please, please, please, please let that be it for the Dana storyline now.”

She is so wooden, and has her brother lost his voice, terrible acting all round with these three.
Scotlass
11-11-2013
Not enjoying this series at all, might stop watching it.
JimothyD
11-11-2013
Originally Posted by Scotlass:
“Not enjoying this series at all, might stop watching it.”

I came on here to see if it was worth starting to watch again, but there doesn't seem to be anything here that motivates me to start up again. I've seen 4 episodes of season 3 and sacked it off. It has out-stayed its welcome and is a different show to the quality it served up in season 1 and to a lesser extent, season 2.
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