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Old 11-11-2013, 17:10
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It's not standard practice in the States for credit cards to use Chip and PIN technology.
Oh right, I didn't know that.
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Old 11-11-2013, 22:24
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Lets just ignore the obvious fact the clinic would have discovered she is pregnant. Brodie has been gone too long, she got pregnant by the one night stand(unless its Quinns, which I doubt, whatever the growing relationship they have not been up to anything). She will loose the baby ten to I, but experience will make her reevaluate her life and what she wants. Basically they seem to be going down the track of both Carrie and Quinn wanting out, but obviously without her, no show... so I do not know how they are going to resolve it. I also think Brodie is either going to die or become a top undercover agent, but he is never coming back. Maybe next season will be all him being run by Saul and Quinn and Carrie off on a farm somewhere raising babies and trying to coax Dana into being less selfish and Chris about how selective mutism is not the way forward. Homeland always surprises.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:16
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How the hell is Dana going to support herself in Los Angeles? She hasn't graduated from high school yet has she.
Where did she say she was going to Los Angeles? I thought she was just moving out to live with Angela. It is very likely I have missed something.
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:22
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Doss at a friend's house and flip burgers? Doable,
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:48
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In other words a lot of over complication for something that she could ask saul to intercede on her behalf.

Bit like the killing of the Venezuelan by Quinn. Blasting a wall to create a diversion when in fact it alerted the occupants and resulted in a gun fight.

All TV nonsense bluster to make it watchable i think.
Nope. That scenario made sense. Quinn's mission then was to eliminate the banker. He had 10 minutes to get into the house amd accomplish this somehow. By creating the explosion it was almost bound to get the security guards to exit the house to see what was happening and he could then pick them off quickly and have a better chance to make his entrance and find his target.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:15
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Nope. That scenario made sense. Quinn's mission then was to eliminate the banker. He had 10 minutes to get into the house amd accomplish this somehow. By creating the explosion it was almost bound to get the security guards to exit the house to see what was happening and he could then pick them off quickly and have a better chance to make his entrance and find his target.
Even the lowest grade of security guards know about distraction techniques.

If there is an explosion they will rally around their client...not disperse. Your assertion is honestly laughable.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:16
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Where did she say she was going to Los Angeles? I thought she was just moving out to live with Angela. It is very likely I have missed something.
That's what I thought although funnily enough I said to Mr Monk, at the time, that I hope Angela lives in California.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:49
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Where did she say she was going to Los Angeles? I thought she was just moving out to live with Angela. It is very likely I have missed something.
I thought she said Los Angeles, but the same would apply anywhere - how can she get a job that would pay enough to live independently from her family.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:52
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We don't actually know that the pregnancy test was positive, as we didn't have a close up of it. Somebody as promiscuous & unstable as Carrie should be on contraceptives - preferably of the injectable kind.
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Old 12-11-2013, 12:56
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Look again. It showed positive.
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Old 12-11-2013, 13:58
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We don't actually know that the pregnancy test was positive, as we didn't have a close up of it. Somebody as promiscuous & unstable as Carrie should be on contraceptives - preferably of the injectable kind.
Definitely positive as were all the others

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Old 12-11-2013, 14:04
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The clue is in the episode title

Still Positive
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Old 12-11-2013, 14:05
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I thought she said Los Angeles, but the same would apply anywhere - how can she get a job that would pay enough to live independently from her family.
She definitely said live with Angela, no mention of Los Angeles.
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Old 12-11-2013, 19:12
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Even the lowest grade of security guards know about distraction techniques.
Erm, If you hear a noise going on downstairs in your own home in the night, you'd just sit there and do nothing: :
How exactly would the security guards know in advance that a 'distraction technique' was going on? It was a small explosion The explosion would have sounded more muffled.from inside the house. You seriously suggesting that they wouldn't have bothered to investigate what was happening and simply 'rally round their client' when they couldn't have known the reason for the explosion?
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Old 12-11-2013, 21:17
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Nope. That scenario made sense. Quinn's mission then was to eliminate the banker. He had 10 minutes to get into the house amd accomplish this somehow. By creating the explosion it was almost bound to get the security guards to exit the house to see what was happening and he could then pick them off quickly and have a better chance to make his entrance and find his target.
Erm, If you hear a noise going on downstairs in your own home in the night, you'd just sit there and do nothing: :
How exactly would the security guards know in advance that a 'distraction technique' was going on? It was a small explosion The explosion would have sounded more muffled.from inside the house. You seriously suggesting that they wouldn't have bothered to investigate what was happening and simply 'rally round their client' when they couldn't have known the reason for the explosion?
I never really thought about it until you gave this possible explanation which, to me, makes sense. The noises/explosion were coming from outside, so the threat to the client was outside so they would investigate. Given the timeframe involved, it was a quick way of removing all the security detail around the client. The target was inside his house and presumed safe so why wouldn't they leave him? If they were exiting the house through the only exits then they would encounter any threat along the way.

Knowledge of distraction techniques seems irrelevant as the natural response would be to investigate rather than sit there analysing.
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Old 12-11-2013, 22:25
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A corker of an episode of Homeland on Sunday night. Back to its best.

Love the Javadi character and doesn't he have some backstory with Saul?! That was unexpected! I think i'm going to like this storyline between these two. He also seems more believable than Abu Nazir and more terrifying. This is the kind of Homeland i love.

With the absence of Brody (only shown in 1 ep so far and not seen since!) this season of Homeland has really become the Saul show. Which for me is fantastic as i love Saul and that was some knockout ending that closed the episode! Saul is brilliantly acted by Mandy Patinking and we're now seeing all these different sides to him and learning more about him which is great for the show. Allegedly next week's episode is also a cracker with more Saul v Javadi.

Carrie - did we really need to see a pregnancy test storyline included in the show? Is this the direction they're going to take Carrie now? Frankly ridiculous! Please someone get her back to doing to what she does best. Not this soap opera baby bullshit.

Dana - thank god her storyline has come to a close.....i think! Ok, so she wants to change her surname - fair enough. But to announce she's leaving the family and moving away to live with a friend out of the blue like that? Does anyone else think that was completely stupid. I think it could have been executed better.

Also nice to have seen Virgil and Max brought back in these past couple of episodes.
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Old 13-11-2013, 09:06
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Rewind and look at the Farah scenes again if you can.

When Javadi is being bought into the interrogation room, she has the exasperated yet worried look (like a daughter to a father) on her face.

When she tells Saul that the address belonged to a Javadi...she had a knowing look.

Farah is probably an iranian mole....and Saul knows it because he put her there. Saul is the biggest mole in this whole saga....going through the motions of preventing the bombings when he actually is running the bombing campaign.
I'm not sure about that knowing look. Javadi knew where his ex-wife was living. Saul didn't. It's surely unthinkable that Saul would have allowed the murders to take place - he appeared to be genuinely shocked and panicked when he realised what was about to happen. So I think the logical explanation for the "looks" is that Farah understood what was going to happen a second before Saul did, and then afterwards she was concerned for Saul because of what had happened.

Prepared to be proved wrong by some awesome twist, though.
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Old 13-11-2013, 10:49
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Dana - thank god her storyline has come to a close.....i think! Ok, so she wants to change her surname - fair enough. But to announce she's leaving the family and moving away to live with a friend out of the blue like that? Does anyone else think that was completely stupid. I think it could have been executed better.
Don't care to be honest - as long as she's gone for good I'm happy!
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Old 13-11-2013, 11:59
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The clue is in the episode title

Still Positive
I didn't know what the title was. She had better hurry up & have an abortion - abortions need to be done early in a pregnancy.
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Old 13-11-2013, 14:40
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I didn't know what the title was. She had better hurry up & have an abortion - abortions need to be done early in a pregnancy.
Or do what millions of other women do in reality. Take maternity leave and let someone take over the job......

but then this is TV. Carrie is the only person in CIA/USA who can save the world.
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Old 13-11-2013, 15:26
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I loved Homeland the first two series, but this one seems to be dragging on and on.
I hate to use the word boring, but I think it has been.
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Old 13-11-2013, 15:53
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Lets just ignore the obvious fact the clinic would have discovered she is pregnant. Brodie has been gone too long, she got pregnant by the one night stand(unless its Quinns, which I doubt, whatever the growing relationship they have not been up to anything). She will loose the baby ten to I, but experience will make her reevaluate her life and what she wants. Basically they seem to be going down the track of both Carrie and Quinn wanting out, but obviously without her, no show... so I do not know how they are going to resolve it. I also think Brodie is either going to die or become a top undercover agent, but he is never coming back. Maybe next season will be all him being run by Saul and Quinn and Carrie off on a farm somewhere raising babies and trying to coax Dana into being less selfish and Chris about how selective mutism is not the way forward. Homeland always surprises.
The 'Chris Brody Gets A Line' drinking game is the worst one in the world. You could watch the entire season in one hit and still drive legally.

Having checked the writing credits, I'm surprised that this season has been as poor as it has. It felt like the original writers had blown up Langley, got Brody blamed for it, then buggered off to some new series leaving their underlings to sort out the mess they'd left behind. But apparently not, it's the same people.

Unless it's an actor related problem, I have no idea why Brody has been dumped this season. It would need some creative plotting perhaps, but a) that is what the writers are paid for, and b) so far Dana has been complicit in a hit and run fatality AND springing a homicide suspect from his enforced rest home with no consequences whatsoever. Plot holes mean nothing to these people.

I'm hoping for a great twist/resolution, I really am, but have to admit I'm losing faith...
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Old 13-11-2013, 16:59
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Given that as the only link to the Most Wanted Man In The World, la famiglia Brody would be under surveillance 24/7, Dana being able to mope around as she wants is a little careless...I'm treating her parts like the adverts now, and speeding past them....
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Old 13-11-2013, 17:52
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Unless it's an actor related problem, I have no idea why Brody has been dumped this season. It would need some creative plotting perhaps, but a) that is what the writers are paid for, and b) so far Dana has been complicit in a hit and run fatality AND springing a homicide suspect from his enforced rest home with no consequences whatsoever. Plot holes mean nothing to these people.

I'm hoping for a great twist/resolution, I really am, but have to admit I'm losing faith...
Brodie's story is over. He should be dead, its not an actor/writer problem, it is that he needs to go now. The only way forward, if he is alive, is for them to continue blaming him in public and making jom some urber double agent, but they all end up dead anyway.
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Old 13-11-2013, 18:26
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I do think Brody's story is taking a backseat, if not over for good.

I posted this on the other thread

Brody is only part of the story. The show should be able to survive without him.

Damien Lewis has discussed the character of Brody and said:

He turns out to be one of the most fascinating characters in the story, without actually being germane to the central plot. The central plot is really CIA, Homeland Security, and how they’ll deal with any ongoing threats to that security.


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