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Old 17-11-2013, 23:36
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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to say - so are we supposed to believe that Mira is about the same age as Saul? I must have misunderstood every scene they ever had together because I thought she was much younger than him and probably a second wife.
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Old 17-11-2013, 23:48
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Has the whole mole story disappeared??
It's looking like the mole passed the keys to the person who was thought to have died but didn't , moved the car instead ? So where are they ? Cannot be high ups ?
I'm waiting to see Quinn get a break ! He's looking visibly distressed ?
On the other hand Saul looking like he's won the lottery , kind of . Hope his gamble with Javardi pays off.
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Old 17-11-2013, 23:53
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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to say - so are we supposed to believe that Mira is about the same age as Saul? I must have misunderstood every scene they ever had together because I thought she was much younger than him and probably a second wife.
Is it important ? I never gave it a thought but when Saul showed Javardi the photo he mentioned" the four of them" so it seemed to me that meant they and their women were together then .
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Old 18-11-2013, 00:03
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Damian Lewis and Claire Danes were interviewed by Charlie Rose on his show a few days ago. It's shown on the Bloomberg news channel, 502 on Sky.

DL doesn't give the plot away obviously, but towards the end of the interview he does indicate as to how much Brody may or may not feature.

Damian Lewis
http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60300596

Be careful of some slight spoilers though.
Claire Danes
http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60299707

Thanks for these links, worth watching, but didn't think Claire Danes interviewed well, but Damian Lewis was excellent.
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Old 18-11-2013, 10:07
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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to say - so are we supposed to believe that Mira is about the same age as Saul? I must have misunderstood every scene they ever had together because I thought she was much younger than him and probably a second wife.
I thought this is as well.
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Old 18-11-2013, 10:34
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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to say - so are we supposed to believe that Mira is about the same age as Saul? I must have misunderstood every scene they ever had together because I thought she was much younger than him and probably a second wife.
Well the actor that plays Saul is 14 years older than the actor that plays Mira so I suppose it's not that unbelievable that they're supposedly roughly the same age.

I think Saul mentioned that he was 21 in the picture, so in reality Mira would have been 7.
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Old 18-11-2013, 14:01
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Is it important ? I never gave it a thought but when Saul showed Javardi the photo he mentioned" the four of them" so it seemed to me that meant they and their women were together then .
Well, it might be important; we'll have to wait and see. For instance, if Mira was close to Javardi and his wife back then, maybe she has been in touch with one or both of them recently?
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Old 18-11-2013, 14:07
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It's looking like the mole passed the keys to the person who was thought to have died but didn't , moved the car instead ? So where are they ? Cannot be high ups ?
I'm waiting to see Quinn get a break ! He's looking visibly distressed ?
On the other hand Saul looking like he's won the lottery , kind of . Hope his gamble with Javardi pays off.
I have a theory who I think the mole is.. Just a theory mind you.

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Old 18-11-2013, 14:16
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Well the actor that plays Saul is 14 years older than the actor that plays Mira so I suppose it's not that unbelievable that they're supposedly roughly the same age.

I think Saul mentioned that he was 21 in the picture, so in reality Mira would have been 7.
When Saul showed Javadi the photo from back in the day, I thought he said it was Javadi's wife's 21st birthday. He also said that he and Javadi were old men, which could support the idea that they were both older than their partners. So maybe the two women were 21 back then, and Saul and Javadi were in their thirties?

The episode is called Gerontion, after a TS Eliot poem which is the monologue of an old man. It includes the lines


I have lost my passion: why should I need to keep it
Since what is kept must be adulterated?


which could mean the title is a direct allusion to Mira's infidelity.

(I don't actually know any of this stuff. I found it on Wikipedia)
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Old 18-11-2013, 16:26
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I miss blunt, funny Quinn.
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Old 18-11-2013, 17:31
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That's one way of slipping a spoiler in unless you were asleep during the whole of last night's episode?
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Old 18-11-2013, 21:12
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I have a theory who I think the mole is.. Just a theory mind you.

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Old 18-11-2013, 23:15
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I have a theory who I think the mole is.. Just a theory mind you.

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Old 18-11-2013, 23:21
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Old 18-11-2013, 23:44
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Old 19-11-2013, 10:03
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Old 19-11-2013, 10:09
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You're right, Trudi - but that was an early scene in a car and Estes stood him down because they realised they hadn't successfully picked up Abu Nazir so they still needed Brody.

Later - ie, in a later episode - there was a scene in Estes' home where Quinn was sitting quietly waiting for him one night. I can't remember distinctly how he phrased it but he said that if Estes didn't want to find Quinn up close and unpleasantly personal in a dark place one day, he'd lay off Brody. I can't remember if his motivation for that encounter (which I loved!) was explicitly stated.

However, I'm fully prepared for someone to correct me on the precise context as I may be misremembering exact details.


ps: I think all the "spoilers" above are just speculation and don't need to be hidden. Speculation is fun and just part of sharing what we're watching.
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Old 19-11-2013, 10:20
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You're right, Trudi - but that was an early scene in a car and Estes stood him down because they realised they hadn't successfully picked up Abu Nazir so they still needed Brody.

Later - ie, in a later episode - there was a scene in Estes' home where Quinn was sitting quietly waiting for him one night. I can't remember distinctly how he phrased it but he said that if Estes didn't want to find Quinn up close and unpleasantly personal in a dark place one day, he'd lay off Brody. I can't remember if his motivation for that encounter (which I loved!) was explicitly stated.

However, I'm fully prepared for someone to correct me on the precise context as I may be misremembering exact details.


ps: I think all the "spoilers" above are just speculation and don't need to be hidden. Speculation is fun and just part of sharing what we're watching.
Ooh yes you're right I remember now, thanks.
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Old 19-11-2013, 10:26
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I have my suspicions about Mira's new bit on the side. Maybe he is using her to see if he can find any secrets out about Saul etc.?
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Old 19-11-2013, 10:38
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I have my suspicions about Mira's new bit on the side. Maybe he is using her to see if he can find any secrets out about Saul etc.?
I have my suspicions about Mira, but she must have been thoroughly investigated by the CIA when she married Saul. Do Saul and Mira ever discuss his work, or is it made clear that he can't talk about it?
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Old 19-11-2013, 12:36
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I have a theory who I think the mole is.. Just a theory mind you.

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In the interests of consistency I've spoilered my comment, despite the fact it refers to earlier episodes...
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Old 19-11-2013, 13:09
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That's one way of slipping a spoiler in unless you were asleep during the whole of last night's episode?
Excuse me, was that referring to my comment? Explain.
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Old 19-11-2013, 13:24
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Excuse me, was that referring to my comment? Explain.
No. It was in response to Kemi Dee see post 1135
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Old 19-11-2013, 13:34
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Old 19-11-2013, 13:35
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It was and you might have said Explain please ? . Why say you miss blunt, funny Quinn when he was in the episode quite a bit of the time on Sunday ?
Anyway was Quinn ever blunt or funny I ask myself .
Sorry please. Apologies. And it wasn't me who said that. it was the comment below me.
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