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How come Iran and Syria are the baddies all of a sudden.. Is the US Government giving the writers a nudge. No surely not the lovely US Government
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How come Iran and Syria are the baddies all of a sudden.. Is the US Government giving the writers a nudge. No surely not the lovely US Government
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I've answered this elsewhere in the thread. Canada was merely a convenient point of exit for Brody. It's not too far from Langley and it's relatively easy to sneak across the border - certainly compared with, say, the Mexican border. Once out of the US, arranging travel south by (most likely) sea is relatively straightforward. No one in their right mind would have attempted to take Brody south - too much ground to cover, too high a risk of getting caught.
We know from episode 4 that Brody entered Venezuela via Colombia, where he was shot. Most likely he landed somewhere on the South American coast and was transported by land from there. A lot of things on Homeland don't make sense - this one does, though! |
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I am not sure they will come back to the two of them in any big way this season, there is too much else to do. What I think they have done is just lay the groundwork. It is a fascinating relationship because they have both given up personal lives for the job. They seem to have developed quite an organic bond, and only seem to trust each now. Quinn isn't loyal to anyone else, if he stays in the CIA for the moment it will be because of her. Added to that she is now pregnant, and he is an absent father. Having said that they could kill one or the other of them off tomorrow and it has all been for nought... bit like life.
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No it doesn't. I would have thought it's very difficult to slip across the Canadian/US border especially after 9/11, or a suspected terrorist known to be a fugitive after a major incident. You've just made a whole number of assumptions which you've pulled out of a hat. There's nothing indicated in any of the episodes so far to back any of this up. Just to take one example you mentioned earlier. If Brody was on the run in Canada how would Saul know exactly where he was and manage to control him so that he landed up in Colombia? As far as one can tell Brody was a free agent until he got shot.
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I'm confused. Surely The Iranians KNOW that Brody isn't the Langley Bomber (as it was them!) - why is Saul so sure that they are going to hail him a hero when he turns up? And I really don't trust his Iranian double agent.
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I'm confused. Surely The Iranians KNOW that Brody isn't the Langley Bomber (as it was them!) - why is Saul so sure that they are going to hail him a hero when he turns up? And I really don't trust his Iranian double agent.
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I think in that moment Carrie did not think he was coming back but people do say it before someone goes off to do something arduous: a big performance whatever, as just a way of saying: see you when its over good luck.
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I'm confused. Surely The Iranians KNOW that Brody isn't the Langley Bomber (as it was them!) - why is Saul so sure that they are going to hail him a hero when he turns up? And I really don't trust his Iranian double agent.
Maybe it is "iranians" common knowledge that Brody was instrumental to the bombing and only a few people, one being Javadi know that he was in fact not directly responsible for planting the bomb |
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No it doesn't. I would have thought it's very difficult to slip across the Canadian/US border especially after 9/11, or a suspected terrorist known to be a fugitive after a major incident. You've just made a whole number of assumptions which you've pulled out of a hat. There's nothing indicated in any of the episodes so far to back any of this up. Just to take one example you mentioned earlier. If Brody was on the run in Canada how would Saul know exactly where he was and manage to control him so that he landed up in Colombia? As far as one can tell Brody was a free agent until he got shot.
It's all been covered anyway. During his car ride with Carrie up to the border she talked of her contacts, of one with a boat. That's where they were heading once into Canada (except she didn't go). During the "Tower of David" episode, it was mentioned how he'd been passed from one safe house to the next, to the next, and that Caracas was the end of the line...we were led to assume somehow Carrie was behind the network, but, it now seems that somehow Saul was. Exactly how has yet to be revealed, but he made it clear he didn't believe Carrie's "unconscious for 14 hours tale", so presumably he used his spy craft to work out what she'd been up to.... Or maybe, he's the man behind the bombing, and thus, it's all part of his masterplan.... |
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I think in that moment Carrie did not think he was coming back but people do say it before someone goes off to do something arduous: a big performance whatever, as just a way of saying: see you when its over good luck.
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in this episode Saul said to Brody "we both know what you've done " does this mean he knows he killed the Vice President or is that something that will never be resolved
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Any idea how long the US/Canada border is? How much of that is basically remote wilderness?
It's all been covered anyway. During his car ride with Carrie up to the border she talked of her contacts, of one with a boat. That's where they were heading once into Canada (except she didn't go). During the "Tower of David" episode, it was mentioned how he'd been passed from one safe house to the next, to the next, and that Caracas was the end of the line...we were led to assume somehow Carrie was behind the network, but, it now seems that somehow Saul was. Exactly how has yet to be revealed, but he made it clear he didn't believe Carrie's "unconscious for 14 hours tale", so presumably he used his spy craft to work out what she'd been up to.... Or maybe, he's the man behind the bombing, and thus, it's all part of his masterplan.... They have mentioned bits of how Brody got to Caracas, using Carries contact. A few blanks are also filled by the free audible book, which is essentially a letter to Carrie from Brody, being read by Damien Lewis. He wrote it during the journey, so no spoilers http://www.audible.com/pd/Arts-Enter...ook/B00FN4UVF2 |
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Agreed. I see this as a set-up more for season four, and then it will be a slow-burn relationship, not one of the intensity of Carrie/Brody.
Part of me too would like to see Quinn have his own private life. Carrie loves her one night stands, but it doesn't seem that Quinn does even that (very much). His house doesn't even look lived in, at least Carrie's looks welcoming. He is practically a monk. What is wrong with this two? Even Saul mister married to his career has a wife. Quinn gave up his girlfriend and child and Carrie... yes well Carrie. Smartest and dumbest person Saul and we have ever met. |
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Yeah, see you on the other side is just another way of saying see you when it's all over.
We're 9 episodes in and it's interesting that we've only now seen Carrie and Brody on screen together for the very first time this season. With only 3 episodes left it's also clearly laid out the season's endgame which will be this mission for Brody. Will it all be neatly wrapped up or carry on into Season 4? It's a possibility. Brody could still be kept alive if the storyline calls for it. In my opinion eps 6-9 have been the best ones this season so far. |
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How come Iran and Syria are the baddies all of a sudden.. Is the US Government giving the writers a nudge. No surely not the lovely US Government
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You think TV writers don't watch/read the news?
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I don't quite understand what their involvement is/was, but according to the credits, the Israelis had a hand in this, which might explain a lot.
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Watching the harrowing scenes of Brody going cold turkey and how Saul just uses him as a pawn in whatever game he is playing at the time (brilliant acting from Damian Lewis), all I could think was, this poor guy is in this utterly hopeless situation because he signed up to go to war for his country - which now treats him like this because he got caught and tortured and broken! I still think of him as a victim here. anyone else?
For Saul to have him thrown in the sea like that - yes, I do get that it's all for a bigger cause but just the same.. what a world - how can any of them trust anything anyone else ever says. War is just such a waste of human life/emotion/energy. |
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Watching the harrowing scenes of Brody going cold turkey and how Saul just uses him as a pawn in whatever game he is playing at the time (brilliant acting from Damian Lewis), all I could think was, this poor guy is in this utterly hopeless situation because he signed up to go to war for his country - which now treats him like this because he got caught and tortured and broken! I still think of him as a victim here. anyone else?
For Saul to have him thrown in the sea like that - yes, I do get that it's all for a bigger cause but just the same.. what a world - how can any of them trust anything anyone else ever says. War is just such a waste of human life/emotion/energy. |
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Poor me...
![]() Now it looks interesting episode as this season been slowly building up to this! |
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Boy, this show really isn't trying any more, is it? It has officially been relegated to 'background TV' for me.
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Boy, this show really isn't trying any more, is it? It has officially been relegated to 'background TV' for me.
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Javadi is hardcore!
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I am so bored with this now and to think there is going to be another series! I struggle to stay awake in this one.
The first series was brilliant and it should have ended then not be dragged on and on and on and on |
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I rather liked the way the tension gradually ramped up during this episode. Brody has made it on his way to Tehran but now has no backup and no extraction plan other than what Carrie can improvise by twisting Fara's arm.
And was it just me, or did Carrie telling Quinn the baby isn't Brody's sound like a feeble lie? Not the best episode of the series, but definitely one of the better ones. http://slouchingtowardstv.com/2013/1...10-good-night/ |
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