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Brody's death scene actually reminded me somewhat of Ned Stark's death scene in Season 1 of Game of Thrones. Not an ounce of the same emotional impact of course, but it just rang similar for some reason.
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Saul will be back.
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I'm still in shock that they killed off Brody. Surely that has to be suicide for the show. I'm not sure if I'll continue to tune in next season. If I do, it won't be with the same enthusiasm, that's for sure.
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You never know what will happen, but what would be nice to see, is for Carrie to have the baby, and then decide after that, to go public on the whole Brody thing, making it better for both her, her baby, and of course his family, get him genuine redemption as it were, and get him official recognition for what he did. He was after all 'turned' while he was a U.S marine held captive.
Call me an old soppy socks, but i would love to see that, and I for one, was hugely moved by that closing episode and i think that anyone that wasn't is just a bit lacking in emotional spirit to be honest. |
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I'm still in shock that they killed off Brody. Surely that has to be suicide for the show. I'm not sure if I'll continue to tune in next season. If I do, it won't be with the same enthusiasm, that's for sure.
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I watched last night as I was getting bored with the series.
The Iranian's were good. Twice there able to capture a trained Marine and pop in the dark without making a noise. The mobile phones the CIA provided Carrie must be good as they work in the middle of the Persian desert I'll have to get me one in case I managed to get trapped one day.Still no sign of the mole being discovered or maybe the writers just couldn't resolve it so thought the viewers might forget if the didn't mention it. The good thing about Brody being killed is hopefully we will not see his pointless family anymore. I guess season 4 will probably be the South Koreans as their next for the baddie treatment. |
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I watched last night as I was getting bored with the series.
The Iranian's were good. Twice there able to capture a trained Marine and pop in the dark without making a noise. The mobile phones the CIA provided Carrie must be good as they work in the middle of the Persian desert I'll have to get me one in case I managed to get trapped one day.Still no sign of the mole being discovered or maybe the writers just couldn't resolve it so thought the viewers might forget if the didn't mention it. The good thing about Brody being killed is hopefully we will not see his pointless family anymore. I guess season 4 will probably be the South Koreans as their next for the baddie treatment. |
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Depends how much influence Apple have with the CIA.
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The mobile phones the CIA provided Carrie must be good as they work in the middle of the Persian desert
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I'm sure Damian Lewis said that he'd signed up for 5 years to the show .
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He's not dead, Season 4 will start with Carrie having a dream and Brody will step out the shower.
I hope Quinn takes the lead if they are going to continue. |
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So Carrie still not dead then................?
Shame |
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Still no sign of the mole being discovered or maybe the writers just couldn't resolve it so thought the viewers might forget if the didn't mention it.
The good thing about Brody being killed is hopefully we will not see his pointless family anymore. I guess season 4 will probably be the South Koreans as their next for the baddie treatment. As for the mole, it's a guessing game but seems possible it was David Estes, due to his determination to kill Brody after he had been revealed as a spy for Abu Nasir, and Estes's frequent obstruction of both Carrie's and Saul's investigations. |
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Saul will definitely be back . More on Brody's family ..... possibly appearing in Season4 ......here and why they will not, could not be told how he died
.http://tvline.com/2013/12/16/homelan...son-3-finale/# |
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I'm still in shock that they killed off Brody. Surely that has to be suicide for the show. I'm not sure if I'll continue to tune in next season. If I do, it won't be with the same enthusiasm, that's for sure.
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I agree the Brody character was Homeland but also tough to see what else they could do with him. I was kind of hoping though if they did away with a main character it would be Carrie (great actress don't get me wrong but she is a little too intense and kind of wish it wasn't always about her mood swings and got back to a gritty storyline instead)
If you notice the credits you will see Clare Danes is cited as executive producer. As such this is a bit of a private indulgence in my view as she will always be front and centre. Even if they finally use Peter Quinn more I don't think the actor has the charisma and presence that Damian showed. I didn't like him in Season 1 but his acting and emotion really endeared Brody to me. As a character I don't like Carrie: there is something very unattractive about her. |
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I'm still in shock that they killed off Brody. Surely that has to be suicide for the show. I'm not sure if I'll continue to tune in next season. If I do, it won't be with the same enthusiasm, that's for sure.
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Ah! Have you been watching The Wire? It's possible I suppose but you'd have to be pretty determined to succeed by that method. You may well end up pulling off the door handle depending how well it's fixed.
I don't know about that. It was made fairly clear that he had retired, moved to NY and was out of the CIA for good. Showrunner Alex Gansa sheds some light as to what this might mean here ... http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/16/ho...ody-interview/ |
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If you notice the credits you will see Clare Danes is cited as executive producer. As such this is a bit of a private indulgence in my view as she will always be front and centre. Even if they finally use Peter Quinn more I don't think the actor has the charisma and presence that Damian showed. I didn't like him in Season 1 but his acting and emotion really endeared Brody to me. As a character I don't like Carrie: there is something very unattractive about her.
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If you notice the credits you will see Clare Danes is cited as executive producer. As such this is a bit of a private indulgence in my view as she will always be front and centre. Even if they finally use Peter Quinn more I don't think the actor has the charisma and presence that Damian showed. I didn't like him in Season 1 but his acting and emotion really endeared Brody to me. As a character I don't like Carrie: there is something very unattractive about her.
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Got to be honest, the show has run its course. The nonsense of the love affair between Brody and Carrie, particularly in season 2, was poor and unnecessary and has sent the show down the wrong direction.
If the CIA is being portrayed in a close to reality manner, my word! It's a drama yes, but the portrayals of characters and storylines are too much and far fetched. Carrie may invoke reaction, but it is becoming laughable. To kill off the main character was foolish, but again he had nowhere to go. Saul is interesting, but the nonsense of his love life is not necessary as a main additional character and was mainly to bring in espionage by the wife's lover! The first season was gripping and created talking points, but since then, we are left with cynicism and criticism. |
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I found season 3 nowhere near as gripping and entertaining as the first two and even quite dull through alot of the episodes, for me the third series proved that it was always Damien Lewis as Brody who made this show so great, his constant absences throughout the series were what made it so inferior to the previous seasons, its no coincidence that the quality of episodes in season 3 improved greatly when Brody featured.
Killing Brody off was a shocking conclusion and its already been suggested that he may not have died as the point of death was never actually seen, but that has to be very unlikely. Not sure what the situation is with Lewis, hes landed a few Hollywood film roles so maybe he quit Homeland to focus on his movie career or maybe it was the writers decision thinking the character had run its course? It could be a mixture of all these reasons and more. The Brody character really had nowhere else to go, disgraced in his own country and disowned by his family, there was no realistic way he could go back to normality, even if he'd been pardoned of his crimes as reward for cooperating with the CIA he surely would have had to be exiled and put under a new identity so killing him off does seem the logical course. With the dip in quality in season 3 perhaps in the fourth season a complete revamp is planned with brand new main cast members introduced, this may be the smart route to go as there is little mileage left in the stories for Carrie and co. |
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I said a few weeks back about this season that it's not how you start but it's how you finish and i thought the last episode of the season finished rather strongly. In fact, if Homeland was just a 3-season show then the finale could have served as a series finale too in the grand scheme of things. It wasn't perfect - why no reaction to Brody's death from his family? Carrie promoted - seriously? Brody's death was horrific, i didn't expect him to go out like that but you knew it was coming. In an earlier scene with Carrie driving Brody in her car across the desert to the safehouse you saw him looking out and you could tell he was calm and peaceful and right there and then you knew that he knew that he wasn't going to live and he was ok with that. That was probably one of my favourite scenes along with the ending with Carrie drawing the star on the wall and the camera panning in for the close-up. You felt a loss. I certainly did anyway.
Season 3 wasn't nearly as good as Seasons 1&2. The best eps of Homeland were the ones that featured Brody and it did pick up in the 2nd half but it wasn't back on form. Looking back now with hindsight the Brody storyline should have ended last season and Season 3 should have been a reboot for the whole show, now it's Season 4 which will do that job with no more Brody. Hopefully they can hire some new (or better) writers and create a storyline to get the show back on top again. Overall this was really Saul's season who was pretty much front and centre along with Carrie and hope to see more of him next season even if he is living in NYC, and hopefully more Quinn too if he comes back. Finally credit to Damian Lewis who did a great job once again even when he featured so little. |
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The return on Homeland - Season 4 teaser trailer.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/s18...oKp7Vndk1Z5rVl |
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I'll have to get me one in case I managed to get trapped one day.