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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers! (Part 2)
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Casmana
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by snafu65:
“Best episode yet of this new series, which seems to have had a new lease of life now Brody is gone for good, hallucinations not withstanding, and it looks like that Pakistani security official is going to be the next notch on Carrie's bedpost!

One thing though, Saul made it 20 miles to the town after escaping, without detection, so wouldn't it have been better for him to just hide out in the middle of nowhere and been extracted by chopper?”

Pleased to see someone else noticed that .... loved the final scene last week where she was crying into his arms.
Quinn will not be pleased tho if he has a rival for Carrie affections , not really a rival because silly man never makes it known to Carrie how he feels?

It was far fetched really to have Saul cover 20 miles in the condition he was in but hey ho I don't want to pick at small details like that.
tennisman
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by Casmana:
“Pleased to see someone else noticed that .... loved the final scene last week where she was crying into his arms.
Quinn will not be pleased tho if he has a rival for Carrie affections , not really a rival because silly man never makes it known to Carrie how he feels?

It was far fetched really to have Saul cover 20 miles in the condition he was in but hey ho I don't want to pick at small details like that.”

Just glad his mobile phone batteries lasted so well.

Or did he ask his captives to charge it for him while he lay in the cell?

Doubt he has an Iphone.
Mitu_Pappi
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Just glad his mobile phone batteries lasted so well.

Or did he ask his captives to charge it for him while he lay in the cell?

Doubt he has an Iphone.”

It was the afghani mans phone. So when he called Carrie she did not say Hi Saul. Just hello. If it was sauls own phone she would have known it was him.
SXTony
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Pakistan in reality and in this story have always been the bad guys. When Hilary Clinton says in the starting montage...... ' you cant have snakes in your backyard and expect them to bite only your neighbours' ...(this by the way was a real line and not said by Clinton for this series).....she was accusing Pakistan of duplicity and betrayal.

Pakistan has been a hotbed of terrorism for the past 20 years. In fact the road to almost all of the terrorist atrocities in the Uk leads to Pakistan.”

I thought they tollerated the Taliban, but this episode pretty much lays out that they are activly helping them agains the US.
Mitu_Pappi
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by SXTony:
“I thought they tollerated the Taliban, but this episode pretty much lays out that they are activly helping them agains the US.”

Taliban was supported and created by the ISI. There is no doubt about this. Hence the hatred for Pakistan in Afghanistan. Those people suffered the most due to the ISI actions.
chaz_womaq
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by SXTony:
“I thought the drone's location gave away Saul's position. So, are we to assume that the Pakisani authorites tipped off the Taliban as to where the drone was watching?”

This seemed to be a big plot hole.

If ISI can track US drones' locations, then why on earth would they place a drone over Saul's location? The CIA certainly don't trust the ISI (rightly so as it turned out), so they really should have thought of the consequences.

In fact, they could have lured the taliban to the wrong location by putting a drone over some other town in the wrong direction as misdirection.

They didn't even need a drone as they had Saul's phone including GPS.
Nailz
03-12-2014
I'm enjoying this series a lot. Best so far IMO.
FrankBT
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by chaz_womaq:
“This seemed to be a big plot hole.

If ISI can track US drones' locations, then why on earth would they place a drone over Saul's location? The CIA certainly don't trust the ISI (rightly so as it turned out), so they really should have thought of the consequences.

In fact, they could have lured the taliban to the wrong location by putting a drone over some other town in the wrong direction as misdirection.

They didn't even need a drone as they had Saul's phone including GPS.”

It's not a plothole. It's probably the reason the Taliban guessed where Saul was. More like an oversight by the CIA
Mitu_Pappi
04-12-2014
Not a plothole. Up until then they trusted the ISI to be on their side. Now they know, money cant buy you love
Mark.
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Not a plothole. Up until then they trusted the ISI to be on their side. Now they know, money cant buy you love”

That still needs a slight suspension of disbelief, though - it's a well-known secret that the CIA and ISI haven't trusted each other in real life for years.
Mitu_Pappi
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“That still needs a slight suspension of disbelief, though - it's a well-known secret that the CIA and ISI haven't trusted each other in real life for years.”

Yes agree. It is well known to those who follow politics. But the general population is blissfully unaware as to the depth of mistrust and the valid reasons behind it.
Mitu_Pappi
07-12-2014
Guys, 9 pm tonight. Lock the doors, phone on silent.......no tea breaks......

Be prepared to be........
tennisman
07-12-2014
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“It was the afghani mans phone. So when he called Carrie she did not say Hi Saul. Just hello. If it was sauls own phone she would have known it was him.”

Well spotted.
tombigbee
07-12-2014
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Guys, 9 pm tonight. Lock the doors, phone on silent.......no tea breaks......

Be prepared to be........”

Yep those who haven't watched it are in for a treat tonight!
Mitu_Pappi
07-12-2014
At 10:00 pm fill in the blanks

WHAT THE ________ ______ was that !!
FrankBT
07-12-2014
Originally Posted by tombigbee:
“Yep those who haven't watched it are in for a treat tonight!”

I've seen it. It is a good ep with an unexpected....

I see in the States the series is taking a week's break for some odd reason. Are they doing the same over here?
Red November
07-12-2014
Originally Posted by FrankBT:
“I've seen it. It is a good ep with an unexpected....

I see in the States the series is taking a week's break for some odd reason. Are they doing the same over here?”

It was Thanksgiving in the US - a time when people allegedly visit family and friends and socialise rather than watch TV

So a lot of TV networks drop their flagship series, rather than suffer reduced ratings

And yeah...if the latest episode hasn't been aired in the States yet, you won't be getting it over here
Mark.
07-12-2014
The latest episode airs tonight in the US. The UK has been a fortnight behind the US; I think now it'll just revert to a week.

I think this is the first time it's taken a break for Thanksgiving. Normally it finishes in the week before Christmas, but this year the US has the last episode on 21st December.
Nihonga
07-12-2014
Originally Posted by Nailz:
“I'm enjoying this series a lot. Best so far IMO.”

indeed. as much as the idea of an american soldier turning into a terriorist seemed plausible, I was never convinced by the depth of Brody's brainwashing/being turned. I know what it feels like to be brainwashed (it ain't good at all) and it just didn't come off well on-screen or convincing, so I never really bought into his character and hence the whole of season 1-3 as a result.
Cloudy2
07-12-2014
Well that was the best bit of tv I have watched all year.
Brummiekev
07-12-2014
Oh my God!!!

That is all I have to say having watched that
Woodbine
07-12-2014
Even though I was expecting something to happen, I was still gobsmacked.
coolmum123
07-12-2014
Omg!! 😳 that was a fantastic episode!!
solare
07-12-2014
Wow. That was exciting!

(A "clusterf**k" - as Lockhart would say).
Dontgimmeevals
07-12-2014
That was an exhilirating episode and it didn't even revolve around Carrie! Glad to see Homeland going from strength to strength.
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