Nice to have it back. A good start to the season with quite a lot to think about.

No, they dropped all of those storylines like a hot potato in the last episode so that they could concentrate on the important things like what was going on with Carrie's family.

Or maybe time you stopped watching ?
Never can figure out why some judge on an opening episode.

When was this made, How did they predict the refugee crisis that's happening now..

Season 5 was shot earlier this year for an October 2015 launch.

Glad to have the show back. A good first episode as well.

Recorded the first ep but haven't watched it yet.

Just bought Season 4 so I'll have a blitz through that and then watch eps 1 and 2 back to back.

If I remember correctly, I think they only made reference to the refugee camps in the Middle East rather than the more recent crisis in Europe.

In any case, I think they sometimes edit in recent news references just before transmission. Last season, in one of the early episodes there was a reference to one of the American hostages who had been beheaded by IS and that event had happened only a few weeks prior to the episode's transmission.

Good opening episode. Nice to have it set in Germany. A new location helps to keep the stories fresh. Quinn is definitely going to have to dye his hair ginger though if he ever hopes to win Carrie!

I don't remember the exact words but Carrie described him as Europe Head or similar

Some of the graffiti artists employed for set decoration aren't happy with the portrayal of Muslims and wrote anti-Homeland slogans in Arabic on the set.

Guardian article

Finding the new series rather dreary so far. A lot of talk, not much going on.

I wonder whether Carrie will have a fling with Max Beesley.

What will Peter do about his next target then ?

Decent episode tonight. It was a very talky episode but setting things up VERY nicely for Ep 3 next Sunday which is meant to be a cracker.

The woman Quinn killed - she's scum of the earth. That's how they recruit these young boys and girls to go to Syria to join IS and become martyrs and all that other nonsense. She had it coming.

The last 10mins of the episode was the most interesting.

Allison goes straight to Dar Adal to try and get Saul fired instead of herself. Bold move! Carrie was the intended hit at the refugee camp and not During. Quinn's next target is Carrie? I'm certain the name he was spelling out was Mathison which means Carrie's on the kill list.

Questions i have is who paid Waheed to put out the hit to kill Carrie? Dar Adal? I wouldn't put it past him. And isn't it Saul who delivers the information to the PO for Quinn to collect and pick up, so would Saul know the names of the people that Quinn is ordered to kill? Does he know it's Carrie?

Things are definetely going to get good next week!

Sidenote: funny to see Max Beesley in this! Haven't seen him on tv in ages. Must be doing quite well to get a guest role on Homeland. Hope we see more of his character.

I think it was Mathison. If Saul is the person who delivers the messages to the PO, I can only imagine that he doesn't know the content. Also, I'm sure that Quinn won't carry out the task (although he and Carrie may have to make it look as though he has).

It could be Dar Adal behind kill order (he's always been a curious character, you can never be sure if he's trustworthy or not). If it is him, then I would guess it's not on behalf of the CIA.

On a different note, I'm glad Alison (?) managed to get a "clusterf*ck" into the episode, although she doesn't deliver it with quite the same venom as Lockhart.

Really like Homeland and have stuck with it even though in my opinion it will never be as good as the first series. Just wanted to comment on the new opening titles. Bit surprised to see clips of whats to come up in future episodes featured in them. Gives away that she's going to be kidnapped at some point and then another where she appears to be in disguise,wearing a dark wig, possibly on the run. Not sure it's necessary to have these clips featured.

It was indeed Mathison (well, Mathiso to be precise). I freezed the picture just to be sure.

Lots of questions like who writes/delivers these notes to Quinn? Saul was scathing to Carrie in ep1 when they met and lost the big job that he was after, so I wouldn't rule him out. Adal is indeed a slippery character and perfectly cast.

Enjoyable series so far, but still the 1st is the best.

It's boring - I may not stick with it.

We really don't need comments like that after only the second episode. This set out situations [all that was going on in different areas] quite clearly . Remarks like it was boring or dreary add nothing to the discussion Either continue to watch or not .It doesn't need announcing .

An interesting episode in that Carrie now knows she's a target but who wants her dead ? Hated to see her having to obey her employer in a potential dangerous situation , stress levels rising . Scenes at the refugee camp showed the horror of being forced into one of these.

Alison's a real snake in the grass, sucking up to Dar Adal to get Saul out of the way.
None of us would dispute surely that the first series of Homeland was the best , but as the saying goes, we have to move on .

Quinn taking a prominent role so far anyway .

Thanks for letting us know. What a real interesting and insightful post.

Quinn is in Germany right? Is he there full time, or is he a globe-trotting hitman? Saul was only in Germany after the leak, surely they wouldn't use him to leave the messages, it would be someone lower down the totem pole.

That's what I said a couple of episodes into Season 4.

Having just watched Season 4 I wish I hadn't given up, it was a cracker.

Give it time.

Yes, I agree. Quinn seems to be based in Berlin at the moment. I wonder whether it was Allison who got Carrie's name sent to him - she seemed to have a lot of hate for Carrie when she was talking to Saul. I must admit I didn't even see the name that he was given in this episode; I only found out from reading discussions afterwards. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.

I thought that what Allison suggested to Dar Adal wasn't that Saul should necessarily be sacked, just to leave Germany and do his job as head of European ops from another country. Seems sensible enough to me, but then I don't understand why Saul was taken back by the CIA in the first place, or why they would ever have considered him for the job of director. He seems to be a walking disaster, and then there was that whole thing about the lie detector test in season 1, or are we not supposed to worry about that any more?

Quinn is in Berlin and Saul is too since the hackers leaked classified information. The leak is why Quinn is on this secret mission of killing bad people for the CIA.

4 was the best one since 1, this is by far the worst so far.