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Homeland on Ch4 (UK Pace) - No Spoilers! (Part 2) |
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He slated her to Jonas to try to get Jonas to break up with her as Otto wanted her for himself. He's definitely not to be trusted; seems manipulative and self-serving but then most powerful men are - that's how they get to the top.
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Didn't you hear what he said - "he needs a partner, he needs her to share his life".
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What was the point of the antidote? Quinn might as well have died straight away from the Sarin gas (although maybe he would've survived if they hadn't brought him out of his coma to try & get information out of him); oh & although I approve of Carrie unhooking him from the machines keeping him alive seeing as he was going to be a vegetable, I'm sure the authorities would see it as a criminal act....
If I was the German authorities then I'd deport that ungrateful bastard Numan anyway. If I was Carrie then I'd accept Otto's marriage proposal - well he is a billionaire (or at the very least a multi-millionaire). Alison's sudden conscience was kind of funny - shocked at the trafficking of girls for the sex industry, yet she killed her bodyguard in cold blood & was prepared to let the Sarin attack go ahead. |
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It was hard for me to feel sorry for Numan. He was in Germany on asylum and he was happy to be part of illegally disclosing secret documents of a country he sought refuge in. "Stupid idiot" doesn't come close. As for Laura, yeah, well, she wanted to play against the big boys. Just make sure you bring big weapons to fight them with. Again with her "stupid idiot" doesn't come close.
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It was hard for me to feel sorry for Numan. He was in Germany on asylum and he was happy to be part of illegally disclosing secret documents of a country he sought refuge in. "Stupid idiot" doesn't come close. As for Laura, yeah, well, she wanted to play against the big boys. Just make sure you bring big weapons to fight them with. Again with her "stupid idiot" doesn't come close.
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What was the point of the antidote? Quinn might as well have died straight away from the Sarin gas (although maybe he would've survived if they hadn't brought him out of his coma to try & get information out of him); oh & although I approve of Carrie unhooking him from the machines keeping him alive seeing as he was going to be a vegetable, I'm sure the authorities would see it as a criminal act....
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The butch woman said to Alison that she'd be in Russia in 3 & a half hours, really? 3 & a half hours to get from Berlin to the German Polish border & then across the whole width of Poland to the Polish Russian border, maybe my geography's failing me but I could've sworn that was a longer distance than that.
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The butch woman said to Alison that she'd be in Russia in 3 & a half hours, really? 3 & a half hours to get from Berlin to the German Polish border & then across the whole width of Poland to the Polish Russian border, maybe my geography's failing me but I could've sworn that was a longer distance than that. |
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I too wondered about that Jenny, Berlin to the closest point of Russia (if you are not counting Belarus as part of Russia) is about 900 miles. If you count Belarus as part of Russia it is about 500 miles.
), also Berlin is a lot further east than I'd realised. https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.8335464,14.6489061,6z - Kaliningrad is part of Russia.
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According to the RAC the journey takes about 8 hours: http://www.rac.co.uk/route-planner/
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Although I can see the logic in Saul getting his revenge on Alison, do we really think the Russians were going to let her live happily ever after?
I don't trust Otto and found his offer rather creepy. Carrie might have considered working for/with him, but I can't believe she'd partner with him in any other way, just like that. They've left enough loose ends that the next series could take any of several directions. But it will probably be along the lines of Carrie starting out happy and settled, having decided on a quiet life in a little cottage somewhere, yet finds herself dragged into another CIA "situation"... |
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I think the writers really missed a trick in not having Saul open the boot and find it empty.
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I think the writers really missed a trick in not having Saul open the boot and find it empty.
Had enough of 'bulging eyes' Carrie (with that ruddy shoulder bag that you couldn't fit a pack of Kleenex in let alone the brush that means her hair ....) ( let it GO Jayne ) ...but still better entertainment than most on tv.
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Life imitating art?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35208669 |
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What is it with Homeland and poor final episodes?
Although uikely in the real world, I hope Quinn does miraculously survive for season 6. |
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I meant the Germans obviously got ahead of myself as I had comments in mind about the Russians too. How would they (Germany) as a cheerleading EU country send someone to a country where they would face the death penalty?
Neumann is not, it would appear, the subject of an extradition request from Turkey so it may be assumed that he would have no outstanding arrest warrant waiting for him when he returned. However, per Laura, Neumann has been declared an "enemy of the state (of Turkey)", most probably because of his political beliefs and because he is almost certainly a Kurd The sort of person who watches a show like Homeland should at least have a vague awareness of the strained relations the Turkish state has with its Kurdish minority and the sometimes extra-judicial manner in which it deals with separatist protests and dissenting voices. That is the "danger to life" that Neumann faces and to which Laura refers when being blackmailed by Astrid. |
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Why did they shoot the Russians at the end for instead of hauling them in? As I'm writing its coming to me that maybe they would have had to let them go because of diplomatic immunity but if that is the case then why hasn't the other Russian guy they've got not got that immunity?
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Alison didn't wear gloves when shooting the professor & her bodyguard & she didn't wipe the guns - so her fingerprints would be all over the guns, furthermore she pressed the gun right up against her shoulder - so ballistics experts would easily be able to establish that the gunshot was self-inflicted.
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I think one can take it as red that Quinn is gone. I think Homeland needed to move on in a much bigger way to survive with any credibility. I think it would have been a better idea if Carrie had been killed off instead or with Quinn. Her bi-polar, quivering lips, bulging eyes scenarios have now been done ad-nauseam. Carrie was never really a credible CIA agent anymore than Superwoman was real, whereas Astrid showed how a believable female spy should behave and operate.
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] The sort of person who watches a show like Homeland should at least have a vague awareness of the strained relations the Turkish state has with its Kurdish minority and the sometimes extra-judicial manner in which it deals with separatist protests and dissenting voices. |
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Season 6 to be set in New York.
Showtime boss David Nevins told reporters at the Television Critics Association's press tour: "Homeland will be shot next year in New York City, in and around New York..... After setting the show in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Europe, [we] wanted to do another American story. Also, I think the actors will be happy to be back in the U.S. for a year. I don't think it's necessarily going to stay forever, but there was a strong interest in doing a domestic story from the creative team" http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...s-not-the-same |
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The butch woman said to Alison that she'd be in Russia in 3 & a half hours, really? 3 & a half hours to get from Berlin to the German Polish border & then across the whole width of Poland to the Polish Russian border, maybe my geography's failing me but I could've sworn that was a longer distance than that.
), also Berlin is a lot further east than I'd realised.
) ...but still better entertainment than most on tv.