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Old 05-12-2012, 19:04
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I think I have to declare, if Fm members don't know already that although I live and work in liverpool I am not a chris fan.

I am more of a James fan though I have felt uncomfortable at the treatment of chris.

I have just seen an interview with him on the local Granada news and he appeared much more relaxed in interview, and come over a little better jmo
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Old 05-12-2012, 19:22
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I sometimes feel sorry for him when he looks crushed during his feedback but then he spoils it for me when he says Louis and Tulisa have got it in for him, when they're bending over backwards not to sound unkind or cruel.

The fact is he is totally out of his depth vocally compared to the soul of one and the 'street' of the other. Christopher can only offer that kind of singalong karaoke 'fun' remember-the-80s-herewego! style he has entertained us since week one. He can't progress any further because that's all he knows.
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Old 05-12-2012, 23:58
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Em I think you need to get out of your little bubble and do some research.

Because they do look at Cliff Rchards, Daniel O'donnell, Rod Stewart, Tom Jones etc Just because you dont see them on TV shows and the top 40 single does not mean they are not selling. As most of them have been selling albums year after year after year.

As for cover Michael Buble, and Daniel Odonnell are mostly covers and they sell. Also westlife did nothing but covers and people still got them instead of the originals.
Don't know about Michael Buble and Daniel O'Donnell but the other acts you mentioned, Cliff Richard, Tom Jones, Rod Stewart etc have all been in the business for a LONG time and didn't start putting out albums full of covers until they were well established and quite a bit older. Not at the beginning of their careers, or when they were at their respective peaks.
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:05
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I sometimes feel sorry for him when he looks crushed during his feedback but then he spoils it for me when he says Louis and Tulisa have got it in for him, when they're bending over backwards not to sound unkind or cruel.

The fact is he is totally out of his depth vocally compared to the soul of one and the 'street' of the other. Christopher can only offer that kind of singalong karaoke 'fun' remember-the-80s-herewego! style he has entertained us since week one. He can't progress any further because that's all he knows.
Exactly. There's no uniqueness in his voice, no light and shade, no creativity or genuine feeling. He just belts out the songs in a formulaic, plastic way. He squeezes the life out of everything he sings.
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:11
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he spoils it for me when he says Louis and Tulisa have got it in for him, when they're bending over backwards not to sound unkind or cruel.
With all due respect, you make yourself sound like you were born yesterday. Whatever your field is, it is certainly not psychology.
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:28
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Waiting for this and you don't disappoint - ridiculous claim and disrespectful to real victims of bullying
Well I think if you were honest with yourself you actually went fishing for it just so you make this reply.
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:37
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With all due respect, you make yourself sound like you were born yesterday. Whatever your field is, it is certainly not psychology.
What an extremlly derogatory comment..not sure the poster deserved that
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:40
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No act has ever been treated as badly as Jedward on X Factor. Two seventeen/eighteen year-old boys (they had their coming of age birthdays during X Factor when they appeared) were booed mercilessly by some plebs in the audience and they received nasty comments from all the judges (as well as some kind comments, admittedly, which were mostly from their mentor Louis Walsh) week after week and they continued to smile and accept what was thrown their way throughout it all. They never whined about their treatment once the way Christopher Maloney continues to do to anyone who gives him a platform. Christopher Maloney is not a teenage boy and has not received the treatment John and Edward Grimes had to contend with when they were deemed by tabloids, even, as public enemy number one (number two too?).

Will Christopher Maloney's name be readily recalled in three year's time as Jedward's name is recalled three years after they appeared on the show even though Jedward finished in sixth place and Christopher Maloney is very probably going to win?

Christopher Maloney needs to grow a pair and man up to what it is to be in competition just as those teenage twins did. Whose guilty pleasure amongst the judges is Christopher Maloney? Who on the panel does he make smile?

Rylan Clark has smiled and accepted nastiness throughout his time on X Factor too. I think Rylan Clark is ten years younger than Christopher Maloney and remains more grown up than him. Both Jedward and Rylan made graceful exits when it was their time to go. I don't think we'll be forced to witness Christopher Maloney's histrionics should he not win this coming weekend, however if we were to, it wouldn't be classy.
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Old 06-12-2012, 00:59
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Rylan Clark has smiled and accepted nastiness throughout his time on X Factor too. I think Rylan Clark is ten years younger than Christopher Maloney and remains more grown up than him. Both Jedward and Rylan made graceful exits when it was their time to go. I don't think we'll be forced to witness Christopher Maloney's histrionics should he not win this coming weekend, however if we were to, it wouldn't be classy.
Good post. Rylan and Jedward were at least engaging and likeable. Actually, Rylan could have been a dark horse - had he been given the opportunity to perform material that showed what he could really do (such as in his sing-off performance).

I think the main bone of contention where CM is concerned - at least for me - is the apparent dishonesty, such as claiming he'd never sung in public before when he'd worked on cruise ships for years. I mean, what on earth was wrong with being upfront from the start and saying he was a former cruise ship singer who'd decided to give the X Factor a go? Then there were the nerves and shaking that mysteriously disappeared the moment he was voted into the final. Chronic nervousness just doesn't go away like that.

But the point is that if he had been upfront, he likely wouldn't have got as far as he had. It was the sympathy ploy of the 'shakes' and 'me nan' stuff that proved the masterstroke and got him into the final twelve. Being a serviceable but ultimately bland singer without these decisive factors would have probably seen him go out at bootcamp.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:11
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No act has ever been treated as badly as Jedward on X Factor. Two seventeen/eighteen year-old boys (they had their coming of age birthdays during X Factor when they appeared) were booed mercilessly by some plebs in the audience and they received nasty comments from all the judges (as well as some kind comments, admittedly, which were mostly from their mentor Louis Walsh) week after week and they continued to smile and accept what was thrown their way throughout it all. They never whined about their treatment once the way Christopher Maloney continues to do to anyone who gives him a platform. Christopher Maloney is not a teenage boy and has not received the treatment John and Edward Grimes had to contend with when they were deemed by tabloids, even, as public enemy number one (number two too?).

Will Christopher Maloney's name be readily recalled in three year's time as Jedward's name is recalled three years after they appeared on the show even though Jedward finished in sixth place and Christopher Maloney is very probably going to win?

Christopher Maloney needs to grow a pair and man up to what it is to be in competition just as those teenage twins did. Whose guilty pleasure amongst the judges is Christopher Maloney? Who on the panel does he make smile?

Rylan Clark has smiled and accepted nastiness throughout his time on X Factor too. I think Rylan Clark is ten years younger than Christopher Maloney and remains more grown up than him. Both Jedward and Rylan made graceful exits when it was their time to go. I don't think we'll be forced to witness Christopher Maloney's histrionics should he not win this coming weekend, however if we were to, it wouldn't be classy.
Not sure where you are coming from to be honest ..there are a lot of x factor acts including past winners who have been subjected to nastyness in the press past and present .a lot of them just want to make music not just to be a celeb
I agree tha the older you are its easier to have a thicker skin within the show
Rylan was older he knew what he was doing ..he is playing the game.why dont you think chris M wont be classy when he leaves the show..everybody has the ability to be that..nothing to do with age gender or sex
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:15
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I think the main bone of contention where CM is concerned - at least for me - is the apparent dishonesty, such as claiming he'd never sung in public before when he'd worked on cruise ships for years. I mean, what on earth was wrong with being upfront from the start and saying he was a former cruise ship singer who'd decided to give the X Factor a go?
He actually said that he'd never sung to such a large crowd before, that people were always saying no. He chose not to reveal he had sung before professionally in public and released a CD - very low key as it was; he still had to go into a studio. He's very good at twisting it so that you could feel sorry for him. His face is a picture when he gets feedback, especially.

The truth will all come out if and when he wins. They might not bother if he's the runner up because he will be yesterday's chip paper by then. But should he win - and I hope he will because it will make sense that other good singers have left prematurely - there will be a ton of stories about him I imagine.

Of course when this happens he will then say, "I never stood a chance of becoming a pop star because of all the bad stories about me" or similar. It's never his fault. He's doing his "best" and "working very hard" and "needs the support" and "hopes the public keep on voting" because "Tulisa and Louis are giving me a hard time" (sad face).
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:16
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No act has ever been treated as badly as Jedward on X Factor. Two seventeen/eighteen year-old boys (they had their coming of age birthdays during X Factor when they appeared) were booed mercilessly by some plebs in the audience and they received nasty comments from all the judges (as well as some kind comments, admittedly, which were mostly from their mentor Louis Walsh) week after week and they continued to smile and accept what was thrown their way throughout it all. They never whined about their treatment once the way Christopher Maloney continues to do to anyone who gives him a platform. Christopher Maloney is not a teenage boy and has not received the treatment John and Edward Grimes had to contend with when they were deemed by tabloids, even, as public enemy number one (number two too?).

Will Christopher Maloney's name be readily recalled in three year's time as Jedward's name is recalled three years after they appeared on the show even though Jedward finished in sixth place and Christopher Maloney is very probably going to win?

Christopher Maloney needs to grow a pair and man up to what it is to be in competition just as those teenage twins did. Whose guilty pleasure amongst the judges is Christopher Maloney? Who on the panel does he make smile?

Rylan Clark has smiled and accepted nastiness throughout his time on X Factor too. I think Rylan Clark is ten years younger than Christopher Maloney and remains more grown up than him. Both Jedward and Rylan made graceful exits when it was their time to go. I don't think we'll be forced to witness Christopher Maloney's histrionics should he not win this coming weekend, however if we were to, it wouldn't be classy.
Brilliant post , spot on
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:28
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He actually said that he'd never sung to such a large crowd before, that people were always saying no. He chose not to reveal he had sung before professionally in public and released a CD - very low key as it was; he still had to go into a studio. He's very good at twisting it so that you could feel sorry for him. His face is a picture when he gets feedback, especially.

The truth will all come out if and when he wins. They might not bother if he's the runner up because he will be yesterday's chip paper by then. But should he win - and I hope he will because it will make sense that other good singers have left prematurely - there will be a ton of stories about him I imagine.

Of course when this happens he will then say, "I never stood a chance of becoming a pop star because of all the bad stories about me" or similar. It's never his fault. He's doing his "best" and "working very hard" and "needs the support" and "hopes the public keep on voting" because "Tulisa and Louis are giving me a hard time" (sad face).
Not sure i am getting this because i may be in the minority ..if every body knows on this forum he was a cruise ship singer ..then the public know really dont they? Or am i being naive
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:30
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Not sure i am getting this because i may be in the minority ..if every body knows on this forum he was a cruise ship singer ..then the public know really dont they? Or am i being naive

Most of the arm chair viewers , don't know very much about
His past
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:35
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Most of the arm chair viewers , don't know very much about
His past
I assume i am an arm chair viewer then because i have never looked into it ..i think that is a lesson learnt because i have looked in to contestest pasts when i am interested in them
..if i am not i just take them at face value
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:39
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I assume i am an arm chair viewer then because i have never looked into it ..i think that is a lesson learnt because i have looked in to contestest pasts when i am interested in them
..if i am not i just take them at face value
As you have been on this forum , you probably know lot more
Than most .

You believe what you want to believe ,
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:55
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As you have been on this forum , you probably know lot more
Than most .

You believe what you want to believe ,
Soo true ...but where do we go from here
There are stories to be told.. and acts to hate..and lessons to be learnt ..and sheep to be followed..and sympathy to be had..
And sucess to be admired..
If i didnt know my own mind i would be lost..whatever that is
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:04
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:09
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Soo true ...but where do we go from here
There are stories to be told.. and acts to hate..and lessons to be learnt ..and sheep to be followed..and sympathy to be had..
And sucess to be admired..
If i didnt know my own mind i would be lost..whatever that is
There's no smoke without fire,

I remember a quote from Rylan

He said the stories are hyped up , but there is some substance to the stories of chris being a diva ,

So maybe that's a good point to what to believe
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:19
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thats how it all starts..
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:54
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Soo true ...but where do we go from here
There are stories to be told.. and acts to hate..and lessons to be learnt ..and sheep to be followed..and sympathy to be had..
And sucess to be admired..
If i didnt know my own mind i would be lost..whatever that is
This is a good read for you .

http://www.independent.ie/entertainm...g-3226645.html
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:28
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Not sure where you are coming from to be honest ..there are a lot of x factor acts including past winners who have been subjected to nastyness in the press past and present .a lot of them just want to make music not just to be a celeb
I agree tha the older you are its easier to have a thicker skin within the show
Rylan was older he knew what he was doing ..he is playing the game.why dont you think chris M wont be classy when he leaves the show..everybody has the ability to be that..nothing to do with age gender or sex
Not sure where you are coming from to be honest
How much clearer could my post be when I say the act which has received the nastiest reaction from judges, audience and publicity in the history of UK X Factor is indisputably John and Edward Grimes. Simon Cowell told them they'd handled themselves well by not whining and just getting on with it. He admired them for how professionally they behaved by never complaining. No one else has ever faced booing from and X Factor audience to the extent Jedward faced. I do not think CM would be classy if he were to be booted rather than winning because he hasn't displayed any class yet.

Rylan Clark is older than Jedward, but much younger than CM. Rylan had as equally harsh criticism as CM has had, yet he accepted such criticism with equanimity and grace and humour under fire. This is not the older, experienced performer, CM's style.

Brilliant post , spot on
Blushing thanks.

Good post. Rylan and Jedward were at least engaging and likeable. Actually, Rylan could have been a dark horse - had he been given the opportunity to perform material that showed what he could really do (such as in his sing-off performance).

I think the main bone of contention where CM is concerned - at least for me - is the apparent dishonesty, such as claiming he'd never sung in public before when he'd worked on cruise ships for years. I mean, what on earth was wrong with being upfront from the start and saying he was a former cruise ship singer who'd decided to give the X Factor a go? Then there were the nerves and shaking that mysteriously disappeared the moment he was voted into the final. Chronic nervousness just doesn't go away like that.

But the point is that if he had been upfront, he likely wouldn't have got as far as he had. It was the sympathy ploy of the 'shakes' and 'me nan' stuff that proved the masterstroke and got him into the final twelve. Being a serviceable but ultimately bland singer without these decisive factors would have probably seen him go out at bootcamp.
All you've said.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:41
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"It's strange that he says he was so nervous, because he didn't show a hint of nerves when he was on stage with us. In fact he became so popular he ended up recording an album that we sold on board”, she continued.
Yes, quite as it appears to some of us: The disingenuous Christopher Maloney. :sleep:
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Old 06-12-2012, 05:10
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I haven't read any negative publicity about Christopher. He seems like a nice enough chap and he does have a good voice. He lacks charisma, in other words he doesn't have the X-factor, in my opinion, but he'll make a few bob doing what he likes doing.

I've never understood the negative connotations of cruise ship cabaret singers, there are loads of people who would love to sing for a living. Not every good singer or musician will become a household name or chart topper but they can still be successful. Andy Abraham and Brenda Edwards are in work and happy with their lot, I wish the same for Chris.

Christopher seems a lot nicer than bitter Brookstein.

I'm not sure that Gary Barlow - respect - is a particularly good mentor and you can bet your life Cowell has something to do with the Christopher controversy - but what is so controversial about a seemingly decent, ordinary chap with a good singing voice? Some people obviously think he is worth voting for or he wouldn't still be there. His fate is in our hands folks, vote for one of the others if it matters that much.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:50
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Chris. I can see what your saying... Jedward`s storry is nice, I just purchased a brand new BMW 5-series after making $7269 this last 5 weeks and in excess of ten/k lass-month. no-doubt about it, this really is the nicest-work I've ever done. I started this 3 months ago and practically straight away began to bring home at least $86 p/h. , Fox76.com.

Haha. Sorry.
I don't have the first idea what you're talking about in connection to this thread.
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