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Matt Cardle: The Fire / James Arthur
Down to #82 after only 5 weeks on the chart and with 5 week sales of just 34k
![]() Deary me. That is total disaster! There will be no tour to speak of with sales figures like those. It'll be yet more gigs at his local boozer for fan club members. Anyway, the thing is, Matt was an X Factor winner for whom many predicted great things. He is the previous act most closely resembling James Arthur and whilst he was less likeable than James, a total arse in fact, he was better looking and had a much, much better voice. He also had a history in indi music, having recorded two self-written albums. All of which begs the question: if Matt couldn't be sold to the public, how on earth will they sell Quasimodo boy? |
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Lazy comparison.
Because James played a Guitar you compare him to Matt Cardle. They don't sound alike, they do different music, have different styles, appeal to different age groups. It's a nonsense comparison. |
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Down to #82 after only 5 weeks on the chart and with 5 week sales of just 34k
![]() Deary me. That is total disaster! There will be no tour to speak of with sales figures like those. It'll be yet more gigs at his local boozer for fan club members. Anyway, the thing is, Matt was an X Factor winner for whom many predicted great things. He is the previous act most closely resembling James Arthur and whilst he was less likeable than James, a total arse in fact, he was better looking and had a much, much better voice. He also had a history in indi music, having recorded two self-written albums. All of which begs the question: if Matt couldn't be sold to the public, how on earth will they sell Quasimodo boy? |
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I think we need to put them on credibility scales.
Cardle was last year's credible artist. Arthur is this year's. ^ These statements are qualified by alleged. DO NOT SUE ME! Yeah_Credible_Jackie |
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Lazy comparison.
Because James played a Guitar you compare him to Matt Cardle. They don't sound alike, they do different music, have different styles, appeal to different age groups. It's a nonsense comparison. ^^This!! ![]() i agree, very lazy comparison:yawn::yawn: |
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When did Matt Cardle ever rap? When did Matt Cardle ever bring dubstep wobbles to X Factor?
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Lazy comparison.
Because James played a Guitar you compare him to Matt Cardle. They don't sound alike, they do different music, have different styles, appeal to different age groups. It's a nonsense comparison. |
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When did James Arthur last have a poo.
Pre Bootcamp is my bet. |
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When did Matt Cardle ever rap? When did Matt Cardle ever bring dubstep wobbles to X Factor?
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When did Matt Cardle ever rap? When did Matt Cardle ever bring dubstep wobbles to X Factor?
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Credible Cardle rapping to a dubstep beat. this i would love to see
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Down to #82 after only 5 weeks on the chart and with 5 week sales of just 34k
![]() Deary me. That is total disaster! There will be no tour to speak of with sales figures like those. It'll be yet more gigs at his local boozer for fan club members. Anyway, the thing is, Matt was an X Factor winner for whom many predicted great things. He is the previous act most closely resembling James Arthur and whilst he was less likeable than James, a total arse in fact, he was better looking and had a much, much better voice. He also had a history in indi music, having recorded two self-written albums. All of which begs the question: if Matt couldn't be sold to the public, how on earth will they sell Quasimodo boy?
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It's not a disaster in Indie terms and he is still top ten after 5 weeks in the indie chart.
The way things are going, he could wind up freezing or starving to death in a bus stop or shop doorway. You'll walk past and say: "oh it's ok Matt. In indi terms you're one of life's high achievers!"
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Please DS, we have the appreciation threads, can we have some disappreciation threads so people like Popsmartz can talk negatively to their hearts content and the rest of us can avoid that area?
Let it go, Popsmartz - and that smilie was so insincere, you just as well had put a . Yes I could just have not read the thread, but the main part of the forum would be so much more positive an opinion if it could be truly objective. So what about it DS? Let's have a section where people can moan about individual to their sycophants in a designated area? |
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Please DS, we have the appreciation threads, can we have some disappreciation threads so people like Popsmartz can talk negatively to their hearts content and the rest of us can avoid that area?
Let it go, Popsmartz - and that smilie was so insincere, you just as well had put a . Yes I could just have not read the thread, but the main part of the forum would be so much more positive an opinion if it could be truly objective. So what about it DS? Let's have a section where people can moan about individual to their sycophants in a designated area?
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Please DS, we have the appreciation threads, can we have some disappreciation threads so people like Popsmartz can talk negatively to their hearts content and the rest of us can avoid that area?
Let it go, Popsmartz - and that smilie was so insincere, you just as well had put a . Yes I could just have not read the thread, but the main part of the forum would be so much more positive an opinion if it could be truly objective. So what about it DS? Let's have a section where people can moan about individual to their sycophants in a designated area? this is a discussion forum. why should "disappreciation threads" be special and not answered with opposing view? |
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Please DS, we have the appreciation threads, can we have some disappreciation threads so people like Popsmartz can talk negatively to their hearts content and the rest of us can avoid that area?
Let it go, Popsmartz - and that smilie was so insincere, you just as well had put a . Yes I could just have not read the thread, but the main part of the forum would be so much more positive an opinion if it could be truly objective. So what about it DS? Let's have a section where people can moan about individual to their sycophants in a designated area? |
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Down to #82 after only 5 weeks on the chart and with 5 week sales of just 34k
![]() Deary me. That is total disaster! There will be no tour to speak of with sales figures like those. It'll be yet more gigs at his local boozer for fan club members. Anyway, the thing is, Matt was an X Factor winner for whom many predicted great things. He is the previous act most closely resembling James Arthur and whilst he was less likeable than James, a total arse in fact, he was better looking and had a much, much better voice. He also had a history in indi music, having recorded two self-written albums. All of which begs the question: if Matt couldn't be sold to the public, how on earth will they sell Quasimodo boy? |
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Down to #82 after only 5 weeks on the chart and with 5 week sales of just 34k
![]() Deary me. That is total disaster! There will be no tour to speak of with sales figures like those. It'll be yet more gigs at his local boozer for fan club members. Anyway, the thing is, Matt was an X Factor winner for whom many predicted great things. He is the previous act most closely resembling James Arthur and whilst he was less likeable than James, a total arse in fact, he was better looking and had a much, much better voice. He also had a history in indi music, having recorded two self-written albums. All of which begs the question: if Matt couldn't be sold to the public, how on earth will they sell Quasimodo boy? |
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erm hes on an independent label and to get to number 8 without promotion is great! Stop hating on artists id like to see you make and album and chart!! pfft some people
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When did Matt Cardle ever rap? When did Matt Cardle ever bring dubstep wobbles to X Factor?
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No similarities whatsoever. Different type of music for one, I can't remember Matt Cardle being endorsed by a lot of the people in the music industry. James will probably work with Labrinth who is doing well at the moment and is signed to Syco.
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Hmmm.. and I can remember Matt's fans telling us he'd be working with all manner of established artists on both sides of the atlantic. He didn't. They said he'd be used to launch the X Factor brand in the US. He wasn't. They said his ultra-credible, Barlow-penned single 'Run For Your Life' would become the anthem of the London olympiad. It didn't. Need I go on? We've heard all of this credibility knocks cobblers on here before. Let's just wait and see shall we?
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Yes but that was just wishful thinking on the part of cardle's fans. Labrinth has met James and don't forget he invited him on stage at his gig. I may be wrong, we'll just have to wait and see. Also I don't think James has ever called himself credible.
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Credible Cardle rapping to a dubstep beat. this i would love to see
![]() ![]() Perhaps he'll release a remix of First Time Ever I Saw Your Face. |
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