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Congratulations Jahmene!
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kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Floh:
“I don't care if he's ambassador of anything excepting to ask what is your source for this information? ”

He was on This Morning today talking to Phil and Holly and they confirmed he has just been made a new ambassador for the cause
E05297535
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by wordfromthewise:
“With respect to his unhappy background and his age he really is going to need some kind of media training if he is going to become anything other than a very good (if a little bit dated for his age) singing voice......his interviewing style is very uncomfortable to watch and his sense of humour or ability to take himself anything less than 100% seriously only seems to extend to that nervous silly childlike giggle,there also seems to be a slightly righteous sounding moral stance creeping in too.All in all disappointing.”

Going by ur username...you're not on this occasion! The thread is talking about his achievement ina worthy cause which he has been campaigning for a while now......interviewing techniques and childlike giggles doesn't have any bearing on what he is doing and what he can/will do in years to come. The organizers were aware of his persona, I'm sure, and yet he has been accepted to head the worthy cause.
If it does become a problem, for both him and the charity/cause in question, I am sure this could be remedied in due course!!!!

BTW Jahmene....congratulations!!!!
kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cassy990:
“^^ This
I have a friend who is a councillor for women's aid. The work they do is incredible and at the moment my friend's is unpaid. She does it as she can see the difference it makes.
If Jahmene's current celebrity status helps the charity in any way at all then I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do that and raise all the awareness he can.”

Thanks Cassy - that is exactly what I mean! Yes, he probably wouldnt have been made a new ambassador for the cause he is involved in had it not been for x factor, but I think it's a possitive thing. As for canvassing votes, I doubt that is the reason he is doing it. I'm sure he would love to win (IMO), but I'm also sure (IMO)that he will go far outside the show even if he doesn't win. Don't know much about this sort of thing, but wouldn't he have been asked or awarded/given the new ambassador role? Surely, he didnt ask for it?!

The other finalists will probably be on This Morning later this week as well I should think
kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by bettingcritic:
“good for him but this is singing competition, becoming ambassador days before the final is bound to lead to suggestions of a convenient vote boosting exercise”

I've no doubt it will, but some people refuse to see the possitives in things and always have to assume there is an alterior motive (ie canvassing more votes) It's such a shame. I'm glad there have been nice comments in repy, I was a bit wary posting this in case I had such a negative response from everyone but if there's anything possitive to come out of this year's x-factor it is this news
Michelle_Clarke
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by kewi:
“Congratulations to Jahmene for becoming an ambassador for Woman's Aid. If there is anyone young kids should look up to, it is Jahmene for so many reasons ”

Good news well done to him.
Sara Webb
04-12-2012
Good for him! Bored of the cynical moaning and wailing about Jahmene on here. He's doing a good thing and more power to him.
kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“Good for him! Bored of the cynical moaning and wailing about Jahmene on here. He's doing a good thing and more power to him.”

This
Cassy990
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by kewi:
“Thanks Cassy - that is exactly what I mean! Yes, he probably wouldnt have been made a new ambassador for the cause he is involved in had it not been for x factor, but I think it's a possitive thing. As for canvassing votes, I doubt that is the reason he is doing it. I'm sure he would love to win (IMO), but I'm also sure (IMO)that he will go far outside the show even if he doesn't win. Don't know much about this sort of thing, but wouldn't he have been asked or awarded/given the new ambassador role? Surely, he didnt ask for it?!

The other finalists will probably be on This Morning later this week as well I should think”

As you say they're all on tv this week, they're all canvassing for votes.
I'd say it's more a clever PR tactic on behalf of the charity to maximise awareness that the news has come out now, people are already aware of Jahmene's story so I don't think it will affect his vote really.
Like you say I'm sure he'd have accepted the role offered whether he wins or doesn't.
Whatever the reason it is a worthy charity to be a part of.
wigwag46
04-12-2012
I found the interview thoroughly embarrassing. Completely wrong to happen before the final and so obviously done on purpose. His use of the song Ella sang as an example of exploitation was wide of the mark and he has a very narrow minded approach. Whilst I am sorry for his problems in life and for his loss I think that this was a very unfair advantage to put him on with Phillip and Holly at this stage. Why not after the programme has finished. His girly giggling is so annoying.
kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cassy990:
“As you say they're all on tv this week, they're all canvassing for votes.
I'd say it's more a clever PR tactic on behalf of the charity to maximise awareness that the news has come out now, people are already aware of Jahmene's story so I don't think it will affect his vote really.
Like you say I'm sure he'd have accepted the role offered whether he wins or doesn't.
Whatever the reason it is a worthy charity to be a part of. ”

I know it's brilliant Cassey, don't blame the charity for doing that, more awareness the better!!
Cassy990
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by wigwag46:
“I found the interview thoroughly embarrassing. Completely wrong to happen before the final and so obviously done on purpose. His use of the song Ella sang as an example of exploitation was wide of the mark and he has a very narrow minded approach. Whilst I am sorry for his problems in life and for his loss I think that this was a very unfair advantage to put him on with Phillip and Holly at this stage. Why not after the programme has finished. His girly giggling is so annoying.”

Why is it wrong that he has principles? Just because they're narrow to you doesn't mean they're narrow to everyone.
Personally I haven't a problem with Ella singing those lyrics, and if she did I'm sure she'd have said.
I haven't seen the interview so I can't comment but if he was stating how it made him feel then why not? He flat out refused to sing another song and that's his perogative.
He has explained his giggling before is a nervous reaction.
I was under the impression from the OP that they were all appearing this week with interviews, is that not the case?
kewi
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cassy990:
“Why is it wrong that he has principles? Just because they're narrow to you doesn't mean they're narrow to everyone.
Personally I haven't a problem with Ella singing those lyrics, and if she did I'm sure she'd have said.
I haven't seen the interview so I can't comment but if he was stating how it made him feel then why not? He flat out refused to sing another song and that's his perogative.
He has explained his giggling before is a nervous reaction.
I was under the impression from the OP that they were all appearing this week with interviews, is that not the case? ”

I just love the fact that there are men out there with principles, it's so nice to see and very rare these days
diamond1
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by kewi:
“I just love the fact that there are men out there with principles, it's so nice to see and very rare these days”

lots of men and women have principles these days ... they don't have to be as extreme and ridgid as Jemahne's to still be decent people
Sara Webb
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“lots of men and women have principles these days ... they don't have to be as extreme and ridgid as Jemahne's to still be decent people”

True that lots of people have principles. I don't see how Jahmene's views are ''extreme'' or ''rigid''. How is taking a stand against domestic violence extreme or rigid?!

He's not afraid to express his opinion or to stand up for what he believes in, that's a good thing IMO.
diamond1
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“True that lots of people have principles. I don't see how Jahmene's views are ''extreme'' or ''rigid''. How is taking a stand against domestic violence extreme or rigid?!

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I'm not talking about taking a stand against domestic violence , I'm talking about him refusing to be part of a group number as he doesn't approve of a 16 year old singing sexual lyrics just because he has particular views about sex
Sara Webb
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“I'm not talking about taking a stand against domestic violence , I'm talking about him refusing to be part of a group number as he doesn't approve of a 16 year old singing sexual lyrics just because he has particular views about sex”

Oh, I see now. Misunderstanding.
diamond1
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“Oh, I see now. Misunderstanding.”

no probs
Michael_Lynch1
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by Sara Webb:
“True that lots of people have principles. I don't see how Jahmene's views are ''extreme'' or ''rigid''. How is taking a stand against domestic violence extreme or rigid?!

He's not afraid to express his opinion or to stand up for what he believes in, that's a good thing IMO.”



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Last edited by Michael_Lynch1 : 04-12-2012 at 19:12
Merity
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by wigwag46:
“I found the interview thoroughly embarrassing. Completely wrong to happen before the final and so obviously done on purpose. His use of the song Ella sang as an example of exploitation was wide of the mark and he has a very narrow minded approach. Whilst I am sorry for his problems in life and for his loss I think that this was a very unfair advantage to put him on with Phillip and Holly at this stage. Why not after the programme has finished. His girly giggling is so annoying.”

Totally disagree with this post.
I saw the interview and I thought Jahmene came across as a lovely young man who has principles and would not compromise himself.
Good for him.
It takes courage to stand up against the majority.


Congrats to him on the ambassador appointment.
abigail05
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by bettingcritic:
“good for him but this is singing competition, becoming ambassador days before the final is bound to lead to suggestions of a convenient vote boosting exercise”

Only from the cynical and paranoid!
abigail05
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by wigwag46:
“I found the interview thoroughly embarrassing. Completely wrong to happen before the final and so obviously done on purpose. His use of the song Ella sang as an example of exploitation was wide of the mark and he has a very narrow minded approach. Whilst I am sorry for his problems in life and for his loss I think that this was a very unfair advantage to put him on with Phillip and Holly at this stage. Why not after the programme has finished. His girly giggling is so annoying.”

I love his nervous little giggle - it is very endearing. Nice giggle, nice guy!
summertime09
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by diamond1:
“he seems a lovely guy but that's ridiculous

It was the Katy Perry song

the age of consent is 16 and if Ella was happy to sing it he shouldn't use her as the reason he didn't want to sing it”

You are entitled to you're opinion as i am to mine!!! IF HE was uncomfortable being part of the performance he had a right to withdraw from it, i didnt say he should have demanded Ella not take part. He stood up for what HE felt, and IMO that took guts and is quite refreshing.
ozjohn
04-12-2012
and people call Chris a creepy, phoney, manipulative nutter ? Chris is an epitome of normality next to Jahmene
Cassy990
04-12-2012
Originally Posted by ozjohn:
“and people call Chris a creepy, phoney, manipulative nutter ? Chris is an epitome of normality next to Jahmene ”

Define 'normal'?
Considering Jahmene's upbringing which I think most would consider to be anything but society's view of 'normal.' He seems pretty well adjusted.
hisdogspot
04-12-2012
He's a lovely lad

... and very brave, to acknowledge the damage domestic violence does from a personal perspective

Good luck to him
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