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Old 04-12-2012, 15:44
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Except the boys they list don't actually have a primary demographic of teens or pre-teen girls.
Not sure how you know that but my teen sister and most of her mates loved Joe and Matt but shed be embarrassed to admit that now.

By the way she is voting for JA.
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Old 04-12-2012, 15:51
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Not sure how you know that but my teen sister and most of her mates loved Joe and Matt but shed be embarrassed to admit that now.

By the way she is voting for JA.
I think honestly its really hard to pinpoint who has what fans, again i have seen varied ages that support JA, heck my mum supports JA and she is 71.

But i think all of the contestants do actually suffer from the time delay after the show, in particular any younger fans they may have who get impatient.
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Old 04-12-2012, 15:56
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I think honestly its really hard to pinpoint who has what fans, again i have seen varied ages that support JA, heck my mum supports JA and she is 71.

But i think all of the contestants do actually suffer from the time delay after the show, in particular any younger fans they may have who get impatient.
Your mum has impeccable taste. My mum doesn't like him much but my dad reckons he's the best there's been for years.
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Old 04-12-2012, 15:59
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james has retweeted tweets from young male fans. could these young male fans who see him as "credible" and "cool" enough be enough to counteract the "curse of the XF boys"?
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:02
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James isn't a pretty boy, though....as in...he isn't the type to have a massive teen girl following. That slot was filled by D3 and Union J this year.
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:03
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james has retweeted tweets from young male fans. could these young male fans who see him as "credible" and "cool" enough be enough to counteract the "curse of the XF boys"?
Good point, also I think the success of Ed Sheeran has done much to improve the lot of X Factor boys who have that whole indie one-man-and-a-guitar schtick.
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:05
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This is a good article from a year ago about the X Factor curse (the Matt Cardle prophecy having since come true):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...winners-doomed

I found the third paragraph down particularly pertinent to young Arthur.

I also like this comment on the article, very true:

"The men's main appeal is to early-teen and pre-teen girls. By the time their proper album is ready a year later, their fan base has usually moved on to the next pretty boy. A year is a long time when you're that age."

Thoughts?
It's true, the groups need to act fast, they generally have a short shelf life. But is James appealing to that market ? I can't imagine him as a pin-up on many little teenage girls' walls.
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:09
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Good point, also I think the success of Ed Sheeran has done much to improve the lot of X Factor boys who have that whole indie one-man-and-a-guitar schtick.
I think your original post was quite interesting, will these younger fans of James still be interested a year from now?

I would imagine that the delay of a year has something to do with their commitments to the tour as well, it must be difficult to find the studio time to try and get an album out at the same time.

Are young female teens more impatient than young male teens?
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:12
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I think your original post was quite interesting, will these younger fans of James still be interested a year from now?

I would imagine that the delay of a year has something to do with their commitments to the tour as well, it must be difficult to find the studio time to try and get an album out at the same time.

Are young female teens more impatient than young male teens?

i think young male fans more on their 20s than young male teens.:sleep:
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:16
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i think young male fans more on their 20s than young male teens.:sleep:
Thats possible, I never had any boys, my 3 kids are all female and I can honestly say that there taste in music never sat still for a month let alone a year, 1 month they are raving about one artist and the next month it was someone totally different lol
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:17
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That article is more pertinent to Jahmene than James to be frank. Arthur has potential to succeed because he appeals to a wider target in my opinion than Douglas who has the teen vote this year. He certainly doesn't appear to appeal to the teen contributors on DS. Douglas will win but I think he will follow the likes of Ward and McElldery on the scrap heap.
I don't think the teens are voting for Jahmene much at all. James is seen to be the 'coolest' of the three left. Any I know are voting for him not Jahmene.
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:18
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Thats possible, I never had any boys, my 3 kids are all female and I can honestly say that there taste in music never sat still for a month let alone a year, 1 month they are raving about one artist and the next month it was someone totally different lol

a-ha!! fickle young customers... lolz!!
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Old 04-12-2012, 16:28
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a-ha!! fickle young customers... lolz!!
LOL i gave myself brownie points and a pat on the back many times for remembering who they were raving about the month before their birthays or at xmas time, then would would look at me like i had sprouted horns and said ermmm thanks for the cd mum but I don't like them anymore , by the time they were 16 i gave up buying them music lol
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Old 04-12-2012, 17:18
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Her album has sold 600k and is certified double-platinum. She has done very, very well indeed. Unlike Cardle, she has not been dumped by her label, forcing her to record and release via a micro-label. Her second album, when it is made will be properly funded and marketed internationally by Sony.
First album sales don't guaratee second album sales, as Alexandra knows
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Old 04-12-2012, 18:05
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First album sales don't guaratee second album sales, as Alexandra knows
exactly the point i was making earlier, the distinction between male & female winners isn't so marked.

And the the only solo XF acts to increase sales from 1st to 2nd album are both male aren't they - Joe M & Olly M?
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Old 04-12-2012, 18:31
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That article is more pertinent to Jahmene than James to be frank. Arthur has potential to succeed because he appeals to a wider target in my opinion than Douglas who has the teen vote this year. He certainly doesn't appear to appeal to the teen contributors on DS. Douglas will win but I think he will follow the likes of Ward and McElldery on the scrap heap.
^^This.
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Old 04-12-2012, 18:48
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I don't know how true this is when you consider that Cher's album sold less than Matt's and Little Mix are at present trailing behind his album sales also. LM opened with 53k compared to Matt's 70k.
Well at least they have a hit single and around 500k sales (Wings and DNA) also have charted well down under (They have a top 3 single and top 10 album in Australia).

But we will see how the next single does.
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Old 04-12-2012, 21:18
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Joe is signed with Universal and just released his 4th album - he's doing fine There's more than one way to skin a cat
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