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Why on earth does he want to bring her back, she was ineffectual as a judge, and the only thing she had going for her was her Audrey Hepburnesque looks and the onscreen chemistry she had with 'Cary Grant' Cowell.
Several summers have moved on and Ms Cole has lost a lot of the youthful bloom she had then, and the chemistry with Cowell will never be the same again, even if he returned to the panel. Simon seems to have lost his touch, he lumbers from one expensive mistake to another, as clearly illustrated by Britney being paid $15 million. Now he'll pay Cheryl whatever she wants? The ratings for this show are not failing because of the judges. People are tiring of what is now an old format, and one copied by rival shows until saturation point has been reached. Other factors like Cowell dropping the winners tout suite also erodes viewer trust in the voting being worthwhile, or a belief that things are fixed. It needs something new, some tweaks to the format and some new faces on the judging panel to help revitalise it. |
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I want Simon, Louis, Nicole and Danni. DEFINITELY not Cheryl or Tulisa.
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Why on earth does he want to bring her back, she was ineffectual as a judge, and the only thing she had going for her was her young Audrey Hepburnesque looks and the onscreen chemistry she had with 'Cary Grant' Cowell.
Several summers have moved on and Ms Cole has lost a lot of the youthful bloom she had then, and the chemistry with Cowell will never be the same again, even if he returned to the panel. Simon seems to have lost his touch, he lumbers from one expensive mistake to another, as clearly illustrated by Britney being paid $15 million. Now he'll pay Cheryl whatever she wants? The ratings for this show are not failing because of the judges. Inevitably, people are tiring of what is now an old format, and one copied by rival shows until TV saturation point has been reached. The Voice's ratings failed the moment its gimmicks, the only things which set it apart, were suddenly all over half way through (blind auditions and battle rounds) and it turned into just another X Factor. The way Cowell drops the winners tout suite and/or they fail and the runner-up succeeds (presumably because the repeat-dialing phone vote does not correlate to multiple downloads/physical product sales) has also eroded viewer faith. It seems pointless voting and, after we saw a producer slip Louis a note, there's renewed mistrust. The X Factor needs something new, some tweaks to the format, and some new faces on the judging panel, to help revitalise it. American Idol lost the defining and most successful panel in 2008 when they added Kara, Paula left in 2009 and then Ellen joined in 2010. None of the three panels worked. It was reinvigorated at the start of 2011 but quickly lost its spark, and now both of those new judges have gone and been replaced. X Factor has the same problem, the panel changes have just played out in a different order. It has a great panel now judging by early reports, but the key will be to see whether or not the show itself is stale and that will only be reflected in the ratings. It's all well and good getting the show fixed, but if noone is going to watch it because its stale then whats the point? |
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If Cheryl comes back, which is likely imo (unless Cowell wants her to have another go at the US one?), then I really hope it's doesn't lead to Nicole going. Simon would be an idiot to let Nicole go now.
It wouldn't surprise me if Cheryl's frantically trying to convince Dannii to come back just to get rid of Nicole I wish Simon/the press would quit with this idea that she is the saviour of XF. Think about it -If she was on the panel RIGHT NOW this year in place of Tulisa, then the result would probably be the same as it is now, wouldn't it? |
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I also agree that Simon has lost the ball now and he must think about new projects and let this one go.
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Urgh I hope Cheryl does NOT return, she wasn't great when she was on it first time IMO. Louis and Nicole should definitely stay for next year, I doubt Tulisa and Gary will want to stay... but please, no more Cheryl!!
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I think we might get a return to the 2010 panel - I can kind of see some logic in that because that's when the show was at its most successful and two of the judges from that era (Simon & Cheryl) seem to attract more press than the current crop of judges.
Personally I'd prefer Simon returned with an all new panel around him but candidates are so thin on the ground. Bringing back old judges might be seen as a route to bringing back old viewers and getting some hype going before the series. BGT managed to build some hype before it started with Cowell back, poaching Dixon from SCD and Walliams joining as well. X Factor just didn't have that at all this year. I was expecting Barlow out and a big name replacement. Some coups for the auditions like Gamu returning or that Harriett girl from The Voice. But there was really nothing apart from an angry Pink impersonator (which wasn't exactly feel good stuff), some decidedly C List guest judges and then Nicole. Nicole has been good but she's damaged goods. I would be quite happy to see all 4 judges shown the door at the moment and a fresh start. They're all associated with two years of dismal failure. Importantly, they need to make some format changes as well. And pick better acts. The final has James Arthur who is arguably too "modern" for a Saturday night TV show and then Maloney who is embarrassingly cruise ship. There's a happy middle ground. |
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Simon would love to have Nicole and Cheryl on the same panel, imagine their 'bitter rivalry' stories it would create.
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X Factor Simon Cowell has told Cheryl Cole to name her price to get her back onto the show next year.
It’s been widely reported that the current panel will be refreshed, with Gary Barlow, Tulisa and even Louis Walsh at risk. Only Nicole Scherzinger is seemingly safe, although she confessed she wouldn’t want to stay if Simon came back! Fortunately for Nicole, Simon’s already ruled out an X Factor return, but is still planning a big shake up of the panel. Read more: http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the...#ixzz2EAsVBCAy Personally I dont want Cheryl back, I think Tulisa should go after this season, she has come across incredibly bigheaded, aggressive and just awful Maybe a replacement of one of TOWIE? Or Keith Lemon? |
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It would be interesting dynamics if she were to come back.
Cheryl and Nicole are thought to not get along, Louis and Cheryl don't seem to get along now either, with them both saying things about the other in the press. Plus Louis really likes Tulisa, so if she was replaced by Cheryl he may be bitchy to Cheryl the way he was to Dannii in Series 5 after Sharon left. |
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Can't see Tulisa staying, TBH. Her album has sold worse in it's first week than even some of the contestants, so she really has no place judging anymore.
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"Name your price. Just don't sing it."
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Simon would love to have Nicole and Cheryl on the same panel, imagine their 'bitter rivalry' stories it would create.
I'd love to see a panel with Nicole, Cheryl, Louis and Simon or Gary but I fear that it would lead to yet another divided panel- imagine last year only 1000 times worse. It works best when they all bounce off each other. I think the way forward is to ditch the fourth judge for a while and continue with Louis, Nicole & Gary. I've just mentioned in another thread that that panel (only with Simon) worked very well in series 7, possibly my favourite since the show began. |
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Simon just cannot take no for an answer!
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It seems that Simon always fights for what he can't have... whether he wants it or not!!! LOL
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Rylan to present!
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Well i read a story about tulisa the other week, where apparently the x factors producers went nuts at her for her dressing room parties every show , for smoking in the building and for her bad press about being a home wrecker, she was told to wind her neck in as it was a family show or face the sack, I do NOT believe anything in the press, because everything gets blown out of proportion, but Tulisa was on twitter later that day ranting about it. Saying that they want her to be their robot and media puppet and they can basically take a hike, so i would say there was some truth in that particular story. So I don't see her coming back next year.
No great loss. |
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