In my opinion a lot of kids today and in the last 20 years or so have and are, being allowed far to much free reign to do and say as they please and make decisions over their parents. They are far too spoiled, outspoken, pandered to and not enough respect or discipline is taking place and these kids are ungrateful, cocky, spoiled and disrespectful and generally play up for attention. Not all kids but it's certainly on the increase. It's been getting gradually worse and worse over the years and you've got kids going to university that can't even operate a washing machine because they've had their backsides wiped so much by their parents.

Kids today may know more about sex and drugs but aren't mature enough to turn a computer off when someone's annoying them and Helen seems to be a prime example of this kind of laid back parenting.

TBF The kids today line has always been used as in this quote


Socrates said that about 2430 years ago

Totally agree with the OP.

My wife & I commented about her Dad not having a thing to say, even in defence of his 'precious' daughter!!

Looks like they only gave her the headlines to read so she can do some more overacting when she read them, and those tears.....wow!!!! I wonder if any new acting jobs have come flooding in for her now??

Dear me get a grip.

It's not as if she murdered anyone. She didn't do some trials on an inconsequential TV program.

The nauseating moralising from some on here on here is becoming a joke.

She seems a perfectly pleasant young woman who's never done any harm to anyone. She never spoke badly to anyone on the program (apart from Eric where she stood up for herself) and has said nothing but kind things since leaving.

As someone who seems to have suffered psychological problems in the recent past. She seems to be a good example of how someone can overcome them and make a decent life for themselves.

Good luck to her.

I wonder if some forget how kids were back when they were kids?

I know someone on FB who was moaning about something his son did at school and how kids today are little $h!t$ I reminded him I was in some of his classes and I know for a fact he did much much worse.

For example once when there was a slight oversight and we had no teacher (The teacher had taken some other students on the annual school camp) but anyway the class broke out into a riot chairs tables books all went out of the 2nd floor window they tried to put the book case through but it wouldn't fit I know he hit a teacher at least once compared to him his son is a angel.

Others have moaned to about how this generation is worse but I do remind them just how bad our generation was.

Perfectly pleasant? I think she'd wear on my patience after about an hour of her constant cries for attention and acting like a spoiled child who thinks the world owes her a living. It's her who needs to get a grip. I've a 16 year old niece who's more mature than she is. What did she think the show was about? Did she expect to go in there for an easy ride or something? She never even gave those trials a chance until the camp got annoyed with her. She's obviously used to getting all her own way and being allowed to bunk off things she doesn't feel like doing.

There there darling, mummy will protect you from all those nasty bullies.

What she's short of is a good kick up the backside. If that was my dad he'd be telling me to stop whinging and sort myself out.

I totally agree with you. She appeared on a daft tv programme, and was no better or worse than any of the other contestants. They were all in there to get attention - that's what the show is all about.

I really can't understand why people get so wound up by Helen. She's earned her own money since the age of 9.

I don't think Helen is anywhere near as bad as the OP is making out. She is a bit spoiled and selfish but I have seen far worse.

Unfortunately it is more or less impossible for kids to get part time / Saturday jobs now as you have to be at least 16.

I don't think Helen is a bad person just lazy and a bit dim if anything

I only saw snippets of IAMGMOOH so can't really comment on Helen but I do agree with The Wizard about how children should be brought up.

I don't have any children but I am surrounded by women at work who do and the ones who have completely ruined their kids financially and with regards to discipline, which is the vast majority, are reaping what they sow. Their now teenage and grown up children are complete brats who have no respect for their mothers.

The vast majority of the young people who have been employed over the years are lazy, habitually off sick and have no work ethic which I think is because their parent's have been too soft and given them everything they want. Obviously you can get older people like that as well but they are far rarer.

My husband works in a mainly male orientated environment and we are always saying to each other thank goodness we don't have children because all our colleagues seem to do is moan about their children, but then maybe the way they behave is down to the way they are being brought up.

Don't get me started on the one's who brag about their offspring! Do they not realise that no one is interested.

What is interesting is , she has two sisters one older and one younger. I wonder how they have turned out?

Could be different whilst I ma sure her parents did indeed have an huge effect on her the fact she grew up on the set on a TV show will also have had a huge effect.

Her parents didn't give her the headlines ITV did, they gave them to all the celebrities.

I heard her say, she thought she would go into the jungle wear her bikini and do nothing.Thats just what she did. Until the others gave her a wake up call.

The papers were left in the hotel room...the parents could easily have removed them ...for a day or so, at least

Maybe CBB would have been better for her if that's what she wanted

Not sure about Helen's Parents, but how many of Charlie's family had a free holiday, erm I mean were there to support her?

Sorry for being off topic

Yes I noticed that Kiki's dad was there too and tweeting pics of her by the pool at the Versace

https://twitter.com/tonytrumanibiza

Exactly. They were there before Helen was so could have made sure she didn't get to read them. Why purposely read stuff anyway that's gonna upset you? Its like people who complain about internet bullying but keep going back and logging on. Just an excuse for more drama and attention tears to get everyone to feel sorry for her.

While I do think it's a bit of an exaggeration to call her the most hated celebrity as Gillian takes some beating, I do think she's brought a lot of this on herself so can't go blaming anyone else for her ridiculous behavior but instead she's allowing her parents to stick up for her and blame the media instead of taking responsibility for acting like a spoiled attention seeker.

I'm sorry, but have I got this right? You are complaining because her birth father was there? Even though her parents have split up/the relationship hasn't worked out for them or whatever, you begrudge them getting on well regardless for their child? You wish her father wasn't there with her to take care of her (alongside her maternal grandmother)?

Or is this all about money... which is nothing to do with Kiki at all anyway, and which comes totally from sponsorship and the ones who waste their money voting... which is up to them, no skin off my nose, I don't take any notice of advertising and I don't vote.

But, as someone who has worked with the victims of chaotic and antagonistic parenting (including offenders - if you want to see the products of chaotic parenting I can give you lots of examples...) I can't believe you want to find something to complain about re Charlie so much you didn't want Kiki's birth father in Australia with her where he had every right to be!

And what has that got to do with this thread anyway?

Well said.

Yeah don't know how Helen came from them two

Where did I say there was anything wrong with him being there?

I just found it odd that throughout all the fallout of it being cruel for Kiki to be used in one of the tasks there was no mention in the media that her father was obviously there and must have given permission ... all the emphasis was putting the blame on her grandmother or Charlie ... so I was surprised to see he was there


for goodness sake, over reaction much

where have I said I didn't want her father to be there? or want to see any results of broken homes .. my post had nothing to do with good or bad parenting .... chill out

and my post had nothing to do with getting at Charlie ... I like her and have stuck up for her on here


I was responding to someone elses post (who did acknowledge that it was off topic)

That's for full time employment. Over 13's can do light work providing it doesnt affect their schooling and there's no age limit on volunteering.

The law exempts the following for children...

*To take part in sport, advertising, modelling, plays, films, television or other entertainment (The employer must apply for a licence from
the local authority)
*To do odd jobs for a parent, relative or
neighbour
*to do babysitting – see under heading
Babysitting.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...employment.htm

Though TBF on Helen she has been working since she was 9 and I would guess she had to put a lot more into it than a paper round or most jobs kids can get.