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Voting percentages released!
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slappers r us
07-12-2012
Talk about overreaction

Some people need to get a sense of humour
slappers r us
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I can't remember but did it directly coincide with Charlie's recovery in the voting listed on the previous page?”

Yes it did

Close call between her and Rosemary the night the door stunt was shown but voting was closed before they showed Charlies upset

the next night her vote recovered and Hugo was sent home even though the night before he had more votes

Thats why I believe there was a Kiki effect to Charlies win
UrMyStar
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“Rubbish! Dec and Ant had already said the voting in terms of winning had changed about thirty minutes or twenty minutes before then.So in terms of winning Charlie had already won 20 or 30 minutes before the end.Kiki's coming in 30 seconds before the result was announced had no effect as she had already won!”

That's not to say it changed in Charlie's favour. Maybe it was Ashley who overtook Charlie at that point.
j4Rose
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“I am so angry with your post.How dare you call Kiki the devil child.She is innocent in all these but you are taking your anger and viciousness on a child.How vile is that calling a little girl a devil child.Not funny what you've just saidIf you don't apologise for this I have a mind to report you to the moderators especially as you've posted against the rules of the forum!!”

You should make a Chris Crocker type vid - LEAVE KIKI ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Mub
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“I really felt sorry for Helen too.I don't think she did anything to be so hated.Others have been worse in the past.However for those who are saying a good edit helped Charlie win at the end,in all fairness do you not thinking the good edits with the secret tasks helped Ashley's popularity soar too. I'm sure it did.If Charlie had been given the secret task instead of Ashley she would even have been way more popular.So really the favourite edits were not just for Charlie.”

This is a very good point.

It makes me laugh how many on here talk about fairness. It's an entertainment show not an election. All ITV have to do is ensure that all the votes cast on time are counted for the correct person. That's it. They will show what is entertaining and try to engineer some if none happens by itself.

All this “Kiki won it”, well, if that was so, why did Ashley pound everyone in the voting right up until the final? If the door challenge thing was so important surely Charlie would have surged in the following day’s voting? As for the final. I'm pretty sure that Kiki coming on screen was no more than 15 seconds before Dec (I think) said that voting was closed. I doubt that they closed at the very point Dec said “closed” and even if they did there’s no way that it can have materially effected the result.

It seems that David’s voters switched more to Charlie than they did to Ashley.
FlaviaCacake
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“I really felt sorry for Helen too.I don't think she did anything to be so hated.Others have been worse in the past.However for those who are saying a good edit helped Charlie win at the end,in all fairness do you not thinking the good edits with the secret tasks helped Ashley's popularity soar too.I'm sure it did.If Charlie had been given the secret task instead of Ashley she would even have been way more popular.So really the favourite edits were not just for Charlie.”

Accoding to the stats and the online poll done on the sister show Ashley was already the top female before she did Terror train let alone the meddling task. She may have had a bump after the meddling taks but the figures show she was very much a contender before any suposedly favourable edit.
boshealecta
07-12-2012
Thing you got to remember is its %'s. It means that Charlies votes may not have increased, she may have had exactly the same votes throughout the whole series, yet if any other camp mates votes goes down or up that effects the others %'s. Not saying KiKi wasnt a factor, but its so hard to tell if votes actually increased at all when its all %'s. Someone could have less votes than the day before but a higher %

Be interesting to see the votes and various stages, ie quarterly through the show etc
Toggler
07-12-2012
Still disappointed with Charlie winning, boring........ Should have been David or Ashley IMHO.
Crawley Cutie
07-12-2012
Charlie won because she a well known Brit ..

Ashley will do very well on the back of the programme....She was a comparative unknown. Therefore - Result.

By now, she will have moved on.........
faith11
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by Crawley Cutie:
“Charlie won because she a well known Brit ..

Ashley will do very well on the back of the programme....She was a comparative unknown. Therefore - Result.

By now, she will have moved on.........”

Yes and all those bitter Ashley fans should move on too I liked Ashley but wanted Charlie to win.Ashley and Charlie are good friends.Ashley has moved on and wishes Charlie well and was very happy for her.Her fans should follow suit too and be happy for Charlie All these bitter rants day in day out by Ashley fans who can't understand that winning just equals to getting more votes regardless of who they want to win is so boring.Get over it and be happy just like Ashley is.Ashley fans just need some tough love and I'm the one to give it to them
goldlistener
07-12-2012
I honestly think it is now only people on DS that care about these results. It was nearly a week ago, all the over paid celebrities have had a lovely time in the Versace Hotel and will now be going back to their pampered celebrity lives. Charlie won, well done Charlie, lets not waste valuble time arguing over the result of an entertainment programme.
BBWorldWideFan
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by 21stCenturyBoy:
“Poor Linda- that has to be one of the vote to save percentages of all time!”

Didn't Britt Ekland get a very low percentage in series 10? Like 0.7 something per cent
21stCenturyBoy
07-12-2012
The 5 lowest vote to saves (from when the figures were announced)

Britt Ekland- 0.97% ()
Dani Behr- 1.1%
Lembit Opik- 1.7%
Carly Zucker- 2.1% (and she survived that night, too!)
Alison Hammond- 2.05%

So Linda got a landslide, in comparison!
Satanel
07-12-2012
I swear Kiki was on the final for like 5 seconds before the voting closed, barely enough time to dial the number... after remembering the number.
Alrightmate
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Yes it did

Close call between her and Rosemary the night the door stunt was shown but voting was closed before they showed Charlies upset

the next night her vote recovered and Hugo was sent home even though the night before he had more votes

Thats why I believe there was a Kiki effect to Charlies win”

I see. I couldn't match the timing of the start of the Kiki stuff with the voting dates. So thanks for pinning on that timescale of events.

I don't really blame Charlie too much though because the initial reactions about the yellow door seemed authentic enough to me.
Although if you offered a big fat bloke a massive fish and chip supper he isn't going to say 'No' is he? He'll gobble it all up.

I do blame the show itself though for corrupting the game when they didn't even need to. They have to contrive their stories don't they? They can't help themselves. They can't ever, you know, just let things happen naturally of their own accord.

I hate the letters from home and phone calls thing in any of these reality game shows anyway. They always strike me as a contrived method of creating drama from an external source if the format of the show is too weak and isn't delivering enough by itself.
The thing is that for this series they didn't even need to do it. It's almost as if they did it just because 'that's what you do' in these shows, so artificially tacked it on.

I'd rather these shows focused on the internal developments within the framework of the environment of the show.
Good series, but this Kiki thing tainted it a little for me.
I think it did corrupt the overall final result, which I think is a bit of a shame.
yellowlabbie
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“I really felt sorry for Helen too.I don't think she did anything to be so hated.Others have been worse in the past.However for those who are saying a good edit helped Charlie win at the end,in all fairness do you not thinking the good edits with the secret tasks helped Ashley's popularity soar too.I'm sure it did.If Charlie had been given the secret task instead of Ashley she would even have been way more popular.So really the favourite edits were not just for Charlie.”

Yes, I would like to know where the secret task came regarding the popularity of Ashley. I'm sure it made such a different to her vote.
yellowlabbie
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Talk about overreaction

Some people need to get a sense of humour”

I didn't see any s in that post. I thought it was in extreme bad taste.
yellowlabbie
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by Mub:
“This is a very good point.

It makes me laugh how many on here talk about fairness. It's an entertainment show not an election. All ITV have to do is ensure that all the votes cast on time are counted for the correct person. That's it. They will show what is entertaining and try to engineer some if none happens by itself.

All this “Kiki won it”, well, if that was so, why did Ashley pound everyone in the voting right up until the final? If the door challenge thing was so important surely Charlie would have surged in the following day’s voting? As for the final. I'm pretty sure that Kiki coming on screen was no more than 15 seconds before Dec (I think) said that voting was closed. I doubt that they closed at the very point Dec said “closed” and even if they did there’s no way that it can have materially effected the result.

It seems that David’s voters switched more to Charlie than they did to Ashley.”

Yes, I agree, Charlie deserved to win, she got the most votes on the day, I suspect, as you do, that many of the other celebs votes went to Charlie.
faith11
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I didn't see any s in that post. I thought it was in extreme bad taste.”

I wondered what post this person was talking about.It can't be my comment re the horrible post made regarding Kiki right? because if it is I'm sure he or she won't like their kid being called a devil child in person or in a forum.
JVS
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I hate the letters from home and phone calls thing in any of these reality game shows anyway. They always strike me as a contrived method of creating drama from an external source if the format of the show is too weak and isn't delivering enough by itself..”

ITV aren't really concerned with impartiality or fairness in the edits, For instance, celebs like Mike Reid and Vic Reeves claimed they were all but invisible in their series. ITV are concerned about two things only; viewing figures and advertising revenues.

If they could have used Kiki a bit more, or a sick grandmother, or a fake romance they would have.
yellowlabbie
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by faith11:
“I wondered what post this person was talking about.It can't be my comment re the horrible post made regarding Kiki right? because if it is I'm sure he or she won't like their kid being called a devil child in person or in a forum.”

I can't think it could have been referring to anyone else's post to be honest. Some people have a strange sense of humour
Alrightmate
07-12-2012
Originally Posted by JVS:
“ITV aren't really concerned with impartiality or fairness in the edits, For instance, celebs like Mike Reid and Vic Reeves claimed they were all but invisible in their series. ITV are concerned about two things only; viewing figures and advertising revenues.

If they could have used Kiki a bit more, or a sick grandmother, or a fake romance they would have.”

I agree with you. They certainly would.

That's why my point is that I feel it was a shame as I don't think this series needed it.
It was as though they just did it out of habit because it was felt that's what you ought to do in these series.
It's become a reality game show cliche and it's as though they just chuck in some sort of story like this because it's become a habit and they do it automatically almost without thinking.
LW09
07-12-2012
Interesting to see how popular Ashley was right from the start when many thought she would be middle to bottom of voting and began to rally support mid-way through the eliminations.

But the fact that Charlie just escaped being eliminated then went on to won shows how few people must have been voting. I'm also amazed to see how badly Rosemary did. She finished 2nd one day, but was near the bottom other than that. I was expecting her to be top of the votes and tailing off.
Unigal07
07-12-2012
Goes to show that Ashley deserved the win

But wow, it really was close. Charlie had a fantastic edit in the final episode so I'm not surprised she topped the vote when it mattered. Well done her
1fab
07-12-2012
David should have won, despite not having as many votes. Definitely!
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