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Louis reveals 'Cowell plans to launch careers for X Factor's Jahmene and James' |
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Big mistake as it will make the fans, the anti lot and the feel sorry for Chris lot vote more to make sure Chris wins, Therefore Simon and Co will have to do something for him. after all he would have won a £1 million contract.
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I doubt Simon is brimming with excitement regarding Jahmene either. This just sounds like Louis spouting off as usual!
Maloney will make his money from the tour and maybe a bit of what is left from the advance. He'll not get any album royalties (which are only paid once the label turns a profit) and he'll probably miss out a bit because while he's signed from Syco he won't be able to do Butlins or any cruise ship gigs (once his album flops he'll just be forgotten about for a few months, not officially dropped, but not able to do any other work). Whoever wins will likely make one album before being discarded but I think that Maloney's album, being cheaply produced and made up of covers, would actually make money. After being dropped, Chris would, of the three, be in the best position to make a further living as he's the most experienced and professional. He's sang for a living in the past and is unlikely to be deludeed as to the realities. He is well cut out for the (quite lucrative) corporate events market. He could even get back onto TV trading on his cheesiness and notoriety (like Nick Bateman from big Brother 1). If, as has been predicted here, he gets slated by all and sundry after the show ends, that'll add to his appeal in that respect. What exactly would the other two trade on after being dropped??? How would they pay their bills??? I'd say that of the three, Chris is the one least likely to be taking calls at a call centre five years from now. |
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How is recording cover versions "cheaper" than recording your own material?
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How is recording cover versions "cheaper" than recording your own material?
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Seems silly now to vote for James and Jahmene if their future is secure. Christopher HAS to win now in order to get some kind of album.
Maybe this will generate more votes for Chris.
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Chris will have a successful career even if Simon does drop him after releasing the single / album
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Chris would be best winning, he needs it most.
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You people reading way too much into this. And i find it hilarious you think Chris could actually make Simon money releasing an album
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You people reading way too much into this.
Quite so. Let's look at what the article actually quotes Louis as saying about Cowell:'I spoke to him this week and I know he loves James and Jahmene but I don’t remember him talking about Chris, no.' It's meaningless as regards who gets the record contract. |
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You people reading way too much into this. And i find it hilarious you think Chris could actually make Simon money releasing an album
It's actually simple. You make and market the album, you offer it for sale, with a core market in mind. You wait, you deduct the many overheads from the turnover total and what you're left with is profit. The lower the overheads and the more stable and reliable the market, the better the chance of there being profit. It might not be huge profit but profit all the same. Do you think successful gamblers get rich by drinking neat whisky and throwing around wild stakes? No. Never in the real world. Cowell and his cronies are businessmen. He may be flamboyant but he's a smart, calculating businessman. Be very sure of that. His cronies are the same, minus the flamboyancy and furthermore, they work in a market that has never been under so much pressure. Pickings are genuinely slim. They'll take five 2.1 punts over a 16.1 punt every time and forego possible glory for safe profit. How do I know that? Simple. It's because they're still in business. |
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Your problem is that for somebody mocking and putting it out there, you're not reading nearly enough into this.
It's actually simple. You make and market the album, you offer it for sale, with a core market in mind. You wait, you deduct the many overheads from the turnover total and what you're left with is profit. The lower the overheads and the more stable and reliable the market, the better the chance of there being profit. It might not be huge profit but profit all the same. Do you think successful gamblers get rich by drinking neat whisky and throwing around wild stakes? No. Never in the real world. Cowell and his cronies are businessmen. He may be flamboyant but he's a smart, calculating businessman. Be very sure of that. His cronies are the same, minus the flamboyancy and furthermore, they work in a market that has never been under so much pressure. Pickings are genuinely slim. They'll take five 2.1 punts over a 16.1 punt every time and forego possible glory for safe profit. How do I know that? Simple. It's because they're still in business. |
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Your problem is that for somebody mocking and putting it out there, you're not reading nearly enough into this.
It's actually simple. You make and market the album, you offer it for sale, with a core market in mind. You wait, you deduct the many overheads from the turnover total and what you're left with is profit. The lower the overheads and the more stable and reliable the market, the better the chance of there being profit. It might not be huge profit but profit all the same. Do you think successful gamblers get rich by drinking neat whisky and throwing around wild stakes? No. Never in the real world. Cowell and his cronies are businessmen. He may be flamboyant but he's a smart, calculating businessman. Be very sure of that. His cronies are the same, minus the flamboyancy and furthermore, they work in a market that has never been under so much pressure. Pickings are genuinely slim. They'll take five 2.1 punts over a 16.1 punt every time and forego possible glory for safe profit. How do I know that? Simple. It's because they're still in business. Has Marcus been dropped by his label ? |
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You think there's successful gamblers? Ha ha. Chris wouldn't sell over 5k and marcus collins got dropped for selling 5x that. Don'tbe daft
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Has Marcus been dropped by his label ? |
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Will be voting for Chris all weekend.
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How is recording cover versions "cheaper" than recording your own material?
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This is one of the reasons that the winner always takes almost a year to release a first album with new material, it takes a long time just to get the lyrics and music just right and a lot of studio time
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Even people that write their own stuff, that does not mean it equates to being good , or that the lyrics work, or that the tempo or music production works, that is what the experts are for
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I'm resigned to Chris winning now. He'll have his moment of glory and his nana can die happy idc. I'm sure he'll fade into oblivion eventually and probably sink into depression. . Of James and Jahmene I guess James could prove to be the more marketable but I'm feel both of them will do better than Chris.
Part of me feels a bit sorry for Chris - in the longer term I think the diappointment of leaving earlier in the series would have been less than the failure to 'make it' as a winner. |
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The show is so manipulated and dishonest I am surprised that anyone would waste their money voting. Spend the dosh on a takeaway, and enjoy the show. If Cowell is going to pick the winner anyway, which he does every year in terms of who he invests in it is disgusting that he pockets a share of the voting revenue.
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Trust me. If chris wins cowel will test the water with an album.
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Trust me. If chris wins cowel will test the water with an album.
How about "Chris at Christmas" as the album name? |
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You think there's successful gamblers? Ha ha. Chris wouldn't sell over 5k and marcus collins got dropped for selling 5x that. Don'tbe daft
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Jahmene and James will make sure that two credible artists have manged to secure a very much deserved career from this failing show.
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Recording your own material takes a lot more money, it means hours an hours in studio's , experts in writing and music production teams, the average studio costs 300 to 500 on a daily basis, using covers that the music is already recorded with does not require music production teams of hired writers and can be recorded in one studio sitting
It will need to mastered and mixed...the only thing Chris will be not be getting is a promo budget, well, he'll get to promote the album on a few morning shows but i doubt anyone will want to taint their reputation by playing his records on the radio or having him on any major network shows. I'd be surprised if they'll have an easy time finding a producer willing to have Maloney on his resume ![]()
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Maybe this will generate more votes for Chris.

