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Old 09-12-2012, 10:59
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BiB

We aren't talking about starving people, we're talking about an immensely privileged woman who claims to have had bi-polar when she had a bit of a wobble in her life.

As it doesn't seem to be getting though to you, I'll bid you adieu.
We weren't talking about the poor nurse who directed the phone call, but you brought her up before.

There is nothing to get through to me, I have enough empathy in me to feel bad for CZJ without having to doubt or belittle her illness, when I have no reason to doubt her.

Have a nice day, then.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:45
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We weren't talking about the poor nurse who directed the phone call, but you brought her up before.

There is nothing to get through to me, I have enough empathy in me to feel bad for CZJ without having to doubt or belittle her illness, when I have no reason to doubt her.

Have a nice day, then.
What an ugly thread.

I'm with you, FIngersAndToes.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:35
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BiB

We aren't talking about starving people, we're talking about an immensely privileged woman who claims to have had bi-polar when she had a bit of a wobble in her life.

As it doesn't seem to be getting though to you, I'll bid you adieu.

Money means nothing when you have bi-polar, you know nothing about how Catherine may have felt during her 'wobble'.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:38
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Money means nothing when you have bi-polar, you know nothing about how Catherine may have felt during her 'wobble'.
She went into a mental facilty for five days.

Bi-polar, or indeed any real mental illness can't be cured in such a short time. As I posted above, I have a relative who suffers badly with clinical depression. Ask them if they can be 'cured' in five days.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:41
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She went into a mental facilty for five days.

Bi-polar, or indeed any real mental illness can't be cured in such a short time. As I posted above, I have a relative who suffers badly with clinical depression. Ask them if they can be 'cured' in five days.
No one claimed she was cured in 5 days, did they? Most likely her treatment has continued outside of rehab, or *gasp* she might have went to a more private place where the other patients wouldn't leak info about her being there.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:50
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CZJ who said during the Hello lawsuit, over her wedding photo's, that a million pounds was not a lot of money to her....that one ?
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:54
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She went into a mental facilty for five days.

Bi-polar, or indeed any real mental illness can't be cured in such a short time. As I posted above, I have a relative who suffers badly with clinical depression. Ask them if they can be 'cured' in five days.


My mother suffered with bi-polar, so do my 2 cousins, so I know a bit about the illness. I've seen my cousin being hospitalised for a week, other times he's in for 9 months - the illness is unpredictable and everyone suffers differently.

The fact that CZJ was hospitalised in the first place shows that she was suffering from the illness - which is enough for me.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:55
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CZJ who said during the Hello lawsuit, over her wedding photo's, that a million pounds was not a lot of money to her....that one ?

So what? Money means nothing if you haven't got peace of mind - my mother suffered with bi-polar, and no amount of money would have made her feel better when she suffered an attack.
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Old 09-12-2012, 15:58
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So what? Money means nothing if you haven't got peace of mind - my mother suffered with bi-polar, and no amount of money would have made her feel better when she suffered an attack.
Exactly. Just because someone is filthy rich doesn't mean that they cannot suffer mental health problems.
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Old 09-12-2012, 16:04
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You've missed the point - she's hardly the sort of person to gain sympathy when making such crass statements about money over wedding photo's. I never said she didn't have bi-polar, was just pointing out one reason why so much negativity on the DM's comments. Did you actually read the article, she got paid by Instyle magazine and discussed bi-polar, her choice. On that televised item she was promoting her new film, which she's contractually obliged to do, and is covered in her fee, therefore already been paid !
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Old 09-12-2012, 16:08
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You've missed the point - she's hardly the sort of person to gain sympathy when making such crass statements about money over wedding photo's. I never said she didn't have bi-polar, was just pointing out one reason why so much negativity on the DM's comments. Did you actually read the article, she got paid by Instyle magazine and discussed bi-polar, her choice. On that televised item she was promoting her new film, which she's contractually obliged to do, and is covered in her fee, therefore already been paid !

Regardless of how rich she is, I sympathise with her medical condition.
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Old 09-12-2012, 16:26
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She might have had a blip and just been hospitalized for a few days to ensure that her meds (or any adjustment to them) were monitored. Once done, she may have continued treatment at home. Would that be unreasonable or is it just too boring an explanation?
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:09
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You've missed the point - she's hardly the sort of person to gain sympathy when making such crass statements about money over wedding photo's. I never said she didn't have bi-polar, was just pointing out one reason why so much negativity on the DM's comments. Did you actually read the article, she got paid by Instyle magazine and discussed bi-polar, her choice. On that televised item she was promoting her new film, which she's contractually obliged to do, and is covered in her fee, therefore already been paid !
Good points Angelica.

She's also said she 'never wanted to be a poster child for bi-polar' and has said she didn't want it to be made public. Who did then, and is the publicist who did when she was hospitalised the same one that she has now or has she sacked them for outing her mental problems?

I've never really warmed to her as she strikes me as a very calculating woman who'll do anything for publicity as long as the price is right and the circumstances suit her.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:12
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Good points Angelica.

She's also said she 'never wanted to be a poster child for bi-polar' and has said she didn't want it to be made public. Who did then, and is the publicist who did when she was hospitalised the same one that she has now or has she sacked them for outing her mental problems?

I've never really warmed to her as she strikes me as a very calculating woman who'll do anything for publicity as long as the price is right and the circumstances suit her.


That's quite evident.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:25
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and has said she didn't want it to be made public. Who did then, and is the publicist who did when she was hospitalised the same one that she has now or has she sacked them for outing her mental problems?
Unfortunately other patients in the facility gossiped to their families/friends, who the contacted some media outlets. CZJ's publicist was contacted by these media outlets for the first scoop, and thus she had the choice of letting it out herself, or the tabloids would leak their own versions of her in rehab. This would also explain why she didn't want to stay in there longer than the 5 days.

It's kind of interesting to see the negative sides of being famous and in the public eye.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:26
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That's quite evident.
Pot and kettle.

You dislike Tulisa, and have posted some very nasty stuff about her in the past. I've never been as unpleasant about CZJ, only said I don't think she's as bad as she makes out and that I've never warmed to her.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:29
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Pot and kettle.

You dislike Tulisa, and have posted some very nasty stuff about her in the past. I've never been as unpleasant about CZJ, only said I don't think she's as bad as she makes out and that I've never warmed to her.


Good grief, you've already commented about that on here Are you stalking me?

Looking at YOUR posting history, you don't often have a good word to say about most celebrities. Is there anyone you like?

Regardless of whether or not I dislike Tulisa, I DO have every sympathy for her and her mother's battle with mental illness.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:32
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Good grief, you've already commented about that on here Are you stalking me?

Regardless of whether or not I dislike Tulisa, I DO have every sympathy for her and her mother's battle with mental illness.
Keep your hair on.

No stalking involved, just making a point. I have sympathy for people with mental illness too as a relative of mine has clinical depression. I just don't have time for CZJ who uses it as a tool for sympathy when she feels she'll get maximum publicity, but if anyone mentions it out of the blue, she doesn't want to know.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:35
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Keep your hair on.

No stalking involved, just making a point. I have sympathy for people with mental illness too as a relative of mine has clinical depression. I just don't have time for CZJ who uses it as a tool for sympathy when she feels she'll get maximum publicity, but if anyone mentions it out of the blue, she doesn't want to know.

My hair is on, hence the You're the one getting your knickers in a twist

CZJ is definitely not using her illness as a tool for sympathy, quite the opposite.
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Old 09-12-2012, 17:43
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Wrong thread
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Old 09-12-2012, 19:28
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If she's famous, she should be working to promote awareness of it and make it less of a stigma. It's people like her that actually make it into one.
No she shouldn't. If she doesn't want to talk about it, even after initially talking about it that is her choice.
I live with a few mental health issues but I don't tell everyone about it as it's not their business, or I don't want or need the hassle.
A friend of mine that does know has said on more than one occasion that she completely forgets that I have depression and other mental health problems because I don't talk about them and I have self-manage strategies in place so that to the outside world I appear to be "normal."
It's when I get home and alone things go pear-shaped when I can let the walls and barriers down.


And no, bi-polar can't be cured in five days. She's probably sick of talking about it because she never had it in the first place.
That may be true and it's possible that she only said she had it not because she was attention-seeking, etc but because she was repeating what her doctor, shrink, counsellor told her.

My brother went to the doctor as he was feeling run down and tired. Basically he wasn't sleeping enough and was run down. During his appointment e let slip that he had just got the sack from work, but he is seeing it as a possitive. He's just completed a course and got qualifications so was going self-employed and sees it as a new beginning.

The GP told him that he was depressed. He said he wasn't and didn't feel depressed. In two weeks him and his family are going on holiday for 2 weeks and when he comes back it's onwards with his new business and he has applied for jobs as well.

The GP again told him that he was depressed and issued him with anti-deps, which he took because you trust your doctor. Over the next few weeks he became lethargic, was sleeping during the day and night and generally felt like crap physically. He told the GP and the GP said carry on taking the anti-deps, you need them. He did for a week and then though sod it I hate feeling like this and just stopped them. He didn't even reduce the dosage. Just instant stop of the pills. Within a week he was feeling better, more energy, not sleeping during the day etc and was feeling more positive about the new start.

Had he listened to his GP he could have been on the anti-deps indefinately and be telling people he had depression purely because he was told by a "professional" that he had it.

CZJ may not have been bi-polar, she may have just had depression or something else that could be improved enough (not cured) so she could leave after a few days and that is why the quick turn around happened. She may have originally said she was bi-polar because a "professional" told her she was.
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Old 09-12-2012, 22:16
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She went into a mental facilty for five days.

Bi-polar, or indeed any real mental illness can't be cured in such a short time. As I posted above, I have a relative who suffers badly with clinical depression. Ask them if they can be 'cured' in five days.
Amazing how many of these celebs claim to have bi polar- I can't help thinking this has turned into a badge of honour or a fashion, completely belittling the people who really do suffer.
As for CZJ - 'I don't want to talk about it but I am anyway - yeah right
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Old 30-04-2013, 08:11
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Don't talk about it then.

Everybody has bipolar these days, of course.
That's probably why she has to go one better; hers is called
"Bipolar II"

Catherine has 'made the decision to check in to a mental health facility for a brief stay to treat her Bipolar II disorder.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz2RvakjyhM

As one who is diagnosed with "chronic depression", I wish I could book into a rehab for "maintenance" everytime life aggravates my condition
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Old 30-04-2013, 09:48
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That's probably why she has to go one better; hers is called
"Bipolar II"
There's two types of bipolar: bipolar I and bipolar II. Perhaps check your facts before you
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Old 30-04-2013, 10:01
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There's two types of bipolar: bipolar I and bipolar II. Perhaps check your facts before you
There are more than just two types of Bipolar: the more common BP1 and BP2 and cyclothymia, then rapid cycling and mixed. Plus the DSM being updated means there may be more that emerge with names. Most people I have come across who have BP have slightly different versions of the illness; some with psychotic episodes, some can hold down full time jobs, many more who can hardly function day to day. It is a very complex illness that cant be pigeon holed conveniently.
In CZJ case, I think she should have thought more carefully before announcing to the world she was 'cured' after her first stint in hospital. She did a lot of damage to sufferers who were then told that if CZJ could be cured then so could they. Simply not true
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