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Old 07-12-2012, 23:25
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I just think it's such a shame that none of the soaps are willing to give us a good, old fashioned superbitch nowadays, and Emmerdale has good pedigree with Kim, Sadie, Rosemary and arguably Charity. Would you welcome it? Do you think a superbitch would fit in with Emmerdale currently more interested in domestic drama than power games and so on?
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Old 07-12-2012, 23:42
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It's fine if it happens naturally. I always felt Sadie was a bit forced, cartoonish and ultimately a crap actress. She was a cardboard cut out "bitch". Though everything about her got better as time went on.

Kim Tate was a natural evolution into superbitch and Rosemary was an instantly effortless villain in a way that felt different to before. I think half the reason Kim was so memorable is because it happened YEARS after her arrival but didn't ever feel unnatural. That sort of long-term development just doesn't happen now with villainous characters.

I'm sure they will try it again but it's got to feel right. They're always trying - Megan Macey and Anna Desouza I think were intended that way and neither worked out for whatever reason, though I still think Megan could be, although at this stage it's looking like she'll evolve into a different sort of character.

And let's not forget the hilarious transformation of Nicola into evil bitch and would-be-murderer which thankfully has been wiped from history.

This sort of character is always being looked for I think but you don't get too many standouts. They could have done it in the Sharma family with Georgia and not made her a part-time character which is an utter waste.
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Old 07-12-2012, 23:51
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Personally I prefer Megan as a slightly prickly but ultimately good person over the rather laughable attempt at making her a full-on bitch when the festival was on.
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Old 08-12-2012, 00:04
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I do too. But it's clearly the route she was originally intended for. Although I've never had a problem with her overall.

I can't find it on youtube, but Anna's arrival in Emmerdale combined with the press releases beforehand, made it very clear what she was intended to be...her entrance was fab to be fair. But that just never happened. More the writing than anything I expect. 2008, cot death and Shane murder aside, was hardly vintage...

This would be an amazing time to bring back Tina Dingle who had a bit of a superbitch vibe going on simply because she was so brilliant. Of course the actress will never return apparently
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:14
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Re: Sadie - personally I preferred the character in her early days where she wasn't a 'full-on' bitch. The stories where Sadie and Jimmy were a couple allowed a more human side to show - her not wanting kids, her love of her dog, friendship with Zoe Tate, etc. The bitchiness with Charity was all about not being forced out of her position in the King family - there was a reasoning behind it. Once she was outsted from the King clan, I felt she became increasingly cartoonish, in spite of being involved in good plots.

Anna DeSouza - I really liked her character and think that maybe they changed their minds about what they wanted from her, as she became more sympathetic and less bitchy as time went on. Her complex relationship with Donald and reaction to his death was very interesting, and ultilmately gave the character more depth than the 'superbitch' role would have.

Megan I think was SB's best shot at creating a new, strong female figure for Home Farm and - like most of his other initiatives - she's fallen flat in that respect. Gaynor Faye doesn't really suit the 'bitch' role - as others have said Megan works better as a more 'firm but fair' type of woman. Plus there was very little by way of explanation as to why she came in being so nasty to Katie - and the dynamics of her relationship with Declan keep changing.

Georgia Sharma works as the interfering mother and mum-in-law, but I don't really see her as a bitch; more of a matriarch - though this is countered by the patchiness of her appearances.

In reality under the current producer I don't see any strong, well-defined characters (superbitch or other) emerging from the canvas; everyone is chopped and chnged to suit the latest shock plot (see: horriblification of Charity to favour St. Rachel).
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Old 08-12-2012, 13:24
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I agree that no one could ever match Kim in the superbitch stakes, mostly because it was a natural evolution with the character, and a lot of that was down to Claire King who played her. In her autobiography, Claire mentions how she gradually gave Kim a bitchier edge, which the writers began to pick up on and develop.

She states that from the very start she'd decided Kim had married Frank purely for his money and there was little or no love in the marriage. This was greatly helped by the fact she didn't get on with Norman Bowler who played Frank. Taking this 'background' of the character into account, it makes perfect sense for Kim to develop into a superbitch.

Sadie, on the other hand, was introduced as a superbitch from word go, and never really had the room to fully develop - though her relationship with fellow superbitch Matthew King helped offer an insight into the character.
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