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Old 07-12-2012, 23:51
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I was talking about Tomb of the Cybermen on the top 2o thread and was just wondering about this. The Daleks were always the big monsters in Dr Who, but, I remeber when Cybermen were good. I never actually really saw any classic seies Cyberman adventures except an old VHS of Revenge of the Cybermen. However I remember reading old novelisations of The Tenth Palnet and the even better Tomb of the Cybermen and, when I got the DVD, it was just as good. There's a really good idea behind the Cybermen, and I love the the little intro they used to have in all the Cybermen novelisations where it talks about the creation of the Cybermen etc. They became much less scary and much more action impressive-y in the 80's, but you still had brilliant stories like Earthshock despite this. However I was just thinking that, apart from a few moments in series 2, the Cybermen have been much less like, well, Cybermen, and have lost the idea that these were once people etc, an idea which made them so powerful in the first place.

Apparently Neil Gaimans next episode is suppossed to right this. I was just wondering what everyone expectations are. Do you think Gaimans Cybermen will deleiver? I'd certainly like a return to old style Cybermen, hidden in the dark, waiting to strike. It gives the, back so much more of that menace. The scene from Tombs of the Cybermen is still really good, especially with the cool music and everything. What would everyone like to see with the new Cybermen. To be honest I'm not that fussed, I much prefer the Daleks as a villain but it would be nice to have the scary Cybermen back again
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Old 08-12-2012, 00:28
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I actually far prefer the Cybermen as classic villains. They just look smarter, sleeker and more menacing than the Daleks. I think they've been ill served by the New Who. I don't blame them for going the route they did but they made them far too stompy and mechanical. What creeped me out originally was the mixture of robot and human and that was lost somewhat with RTD era Cybermen. They also made them a bit dopey- almost akin to SW Prequel Battle Droids bumbling around and being a bit ineffective. It says a lot that the most effective appearance this era was the cameo in The Pandorica Opens. Properly scary. What do I want from Gaimans episode? Do away with all the 'delete' nonsense and make them scary again. That's all we can ask.
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Old 08-12-2012, 00:31
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Anyone who's seen spoiler photos for Gaiman's episode shouldn't be worried
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:24
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Cybermen that speak can be quite amusing, programmed to say certain phrases at certain times of the month.
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Old 08-12-2012, 05:29
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Ooh, What happened to them?
Whatever happened to us?
What became of the people they used to be?
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:09
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Neil Gaimon's 'The Last Cybeman' should be epic
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Old 08-12-2012, 14:09
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It does sound amazing from what we seem to know of it.
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Old 08-12-2012, 20:59
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What happened to them was crappy writing. I usually dread cybermen episodes as the past few have been trash.

However, Neil Gaiman has already proven himself to be an excellent writer so my expectations for the next cyberman episode have went up. As long as there is no cyber king, I think it will be a good episode.
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Old 10-12-2012, 00:56
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What happened to the Cybermen is a process called Flanderization.
Instead of being interesting characters with a tragic backstory and their own culture, they just got simplified into sinister stomping soldier robots with a gold allergy. That's all people knew them for, and there's not a lot you can do with that.
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