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Old 09-12-2012, 23:18
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Whilst Christopher wasn't my cup of tea I personally felt that he was subjected to a hatchet job by X-Factor and that it was unfair. All he did was apply, the judges/production team chose to select him for judges houses and then as a wildcard and the viewing public voted him into the live show and keep him in until this weekend.

However, having seen the voting figures I now personally feel there must be a lot of substance to all the rumours we have been hearing about his behaviour. He topped the voting figures for 7 or so weeks - absolutely unheard of in X-Factor history. Basically he was storming it with the viewers at home until the hatchet job started to take effect. Why would X-Factor/Syco not want him to win? His voting figures show that of all the acts he was the one most likely to sell at least one or two albums in large enough quantities to make big bucks for Cowell. He was a dead cert. OK so not a long term credible artist but X-Factor has shown in previous years that they are more than happy to take a winner who will make quick money and then fade away. Even if they did not want him to win they could have engineered him going but not tarnished his personal reputation, signed him after the show and still earnt some dosh from him. What they appear to have done though is to try and totally anihilate him.

They only conclusion I can draw from this is that the rumours about him are true and he was a total nightmare to deal with and not a pleasant person. Not someone the show wanted to continue a professional relationship with. Think the other finalists and Dermots reaction spoke volumes when the voting figures were revealed.

Personally don't usually subscribe to the no smoke without fire attitude and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But in this instance I can't see any logical reason for why the show was so anti Chris unless there was truth in the rumours.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:23
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From what I gather it's because he wasn't "credible" whatever that is .. And that his style of music isn't what they want to sell. Syco had their money on Ella and it showed. She is young and will bend over backwards to do as they ask.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:27
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Whilst Christopher wasn't my cup of tea I personally felt that he was subjected to a hatchet job by X-Factor and that it was unfair. All he did was apply, the judges/production team chose to select him for judges houses and then as a wildcard and the viewing public voted him into the live show and keep him in until this weekend.

However, having seen the voting figures I now personally feel there must be a lot of substance to all the rumours we have been hearing about his behaviour. He topped the voting figures for 7 or so weeks - absolutely unheard of in X-Factor history. Basically he was storming it with the viewers at home until the hatchet job started to take effect. Why would X-Factor/Syco not want him to win? His voting figures show that of all the acts he was the one most likely to sell at least one or two albums in large enough quantities to make big bucks for Cowell. He was a dead cert. OK so not a long term credible artist but X-Factor has shown in previous years that they are more than happy to take a winner who will make quick money and then fade away. Even if they did not want him to win they could have engineered him going but not tarnished his personal reputation, signed him after the show and still earnt some dosh from him. What they appear to have done though is to try and totally anihilate him.

They only conclusion I can draw from this is that the rumours about him are true and he was a total nightmare to deal with and not a pleasant person. Not someone the show wanted to continue a professional relationship with. Think the other finalists and Dermots reaction spoke volumes when the voting figures were revealed.

Personally don't usually subscribe to the no smoke without fire attitude and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But in this instance I can't see any logical reason for why the show was so anti Chris unless there was truth in the rumours.
It is quite clear there was someone maybe himself and Gary doing repetetive votes. I think it was probably Gary and co. doing much of the Chris saving each week. Could you really imagine Chris vs James or Jahmene in that final? lol totally different leagues.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:30
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It is quite clear there was someone maybe himself and Gary doing repetetive votes. I think it was probably Gary and co. doing much of the Chris saving each week. Could you really imagine Chris vs James or Jahmene in that final? lol totally different leagues.
I seriously don't believe Gary wanted him to win.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:33
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Whilst Christopher wasn't my cup of tea I personally felt that he was subjected to a hatchet job by X-Factor and that it was unfair. All he did was apply, the judges/production team chose to select him for judges houses and then as a wildcard and the viewing public voted him into the live show and keep him in until this weekend.

However, having seen the voting figures I now personally feel there must be a lot of substance to all the rumours we have been hearing about his behaviour. He topped the voting figures for 7 or so weeks - absolutely unheard of in X-Factor history. Basically he was storming it with the viewers at home until the hatchet job started to take effect. Why would X-Factor/Syco not want him to win? His voting figures show that of all the acts he was the one most likely to sell at least one or two albums in large enough quantities to make big bucks for Cowell. He was a dead cert. OK so not a long term credible artist but X-Factor has shown in previous years that they are more than happy to take a winner who will make quick money and then fade away. Even if they did not want him to win they could have engineered him going but not tarnished his personal reputation, signed him after the show and still earnt some dosh from him. What they appear to have done though is to try and totally anihilate him.

They only conclusion I can draw from this is that the rumours about him are true and he was a total nightmare to deal with and not a pleasant person. Not someone the show wanted to continue a professional relationship with. Think the other finalists and Dermots reaction spoke volumes when the voting figures were revealed.

Personally don't usually subscribe to the no smoke without fire attitude and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But in this instance I can't see any logical reason for why the show was so anti Chris unless there was truth in the rumours.
Just because an act is topping the vote doesn't mean they will sell lots of albums. Eoghan Quigg topped the vote up until about top 5 his year and the single he released after the show did not sell many copies. Topping the vote may be the result of people voting multiple times - they are only going to buy one copy of an album, or people voting for the underdog - they are unlikely to buy the album.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:36
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Whilst Christopher wasn't my cup of tea I personally felt that he was subjected to a hatchet job by X-Factor and that it was unfair. All he did was apply, the judges/production team chose to select him for judges houses and then as a wildcard and the viewing public voted him into the live show and keep him in until this weekend.

However, having seen the voting figures I now personally feel there must be a lot of substance to all the rumours we have been hearing about his behaviour. He topped the voting figures for 7 or so weeks - absolutely unheard of in X-Factor history. Basically he was storming it with the viewers at home until the hatchet job started to take effect. Why would X-Factor/Syco not want him to win? His voting figures show that of all the acts he was the one most likely to sell at least one or two albums in large enough quantities to make big bucks for Cowell. He was a dead cert. OK so not a long term credible artist but X-Factor has shown in previous years that they are more than happy to take a winner who will make quick money and then fade away. Even if they did not want him to win they could have engineered him going but not tarnished his personal reputation, signed him after the show and still earnt some dosh from him. What they appear to have done though is to try and totally anihilate him.

They only conclusion I can draw from this is that the rumours about him are true and he was a total nightmare to deal with and not a pleasant person. Not someone the show wanted to continue a professional relationship with. Think the other finalists and Dermots reaction spoke volumes when the voting figures were revealed.

Personally don't usually subscribe to the no smoke without fire attitude and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But in this instance I can't see any logical reason for why the show was so anti Chris unless there was truth in the rumours.
I think it was merely the hatchet job. The rest of your conclusions I dont think wash. If he was 'mean' to some producers, think of the way they were treating him... they were all petrified that he would win and they would know the voting figures as well. So you're right, no smoke without fire... but I think the producers were the ones trying to wind him up.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:42
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Personally don't usually subscribe to the no smoke without fire attitude and like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But in this instance I can't see any logical reason for why the show was so anti Chris unless there was truth in the rumours.
If there was any truth to the rumours, they wouldn't be rumours, the facts would have been released to the papers or blabbed by Louie live on air.

The producers know who they want to win and if someone is topping the vote every week like Chris was, they would do anything to stop them.

They did exactly the same thing to Janet Devlin.
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Old 09-12-2012, 23:56
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I seriously don't believe Gary wanted him to win.


I think Gary was gutted when he got through, but to be fair did his job well as his mentor.

The phrase 'You can't polish a turd' comes to mind though.
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Old 10-12-2012, 00:01
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I think Gary was gutted when he got through, but to be fair did his job well as his mentor.

The phrase 'You can't polish a turd' comes to mind though.
But I think Rylan proved you can cover one in glitter.
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Old 10-12-2012, 00:02
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If there was any truth to the rumours, they wouldn't be rumours, the facts would have been released to the papers or blabbed by Louie live on air.

The producers know who they want to win and if someone is topping the vote every week like Chris was, they would do anything to stop them.

They did exactly the same thing to Janet Devlin.
Especially if the public aren't voting for the right people. Chris is an alright guy but he's not talented. Look at what Gary even said.

And I hate the fact that people pick up on the Chris bullying thing and then react to it. When it happened to Misha B, I bet none of you guys could be bothered. Nobody cared enough to pick up the phones and vote for someone actually talented...it's just ridiculous.

Loads of contestants are saying that about Chris too, c'mon you have to realize eventually that he may not be what he seems.
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Old 10-12-2012, 00:11
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I agree that the producers probably decided they had to do a hatchet job on him to prevent him from winning, especially given the amount by which he had been topping the votes - if they'd sat back and done nothing, then he'd have won in all likelihood.

However, whilst I feel some sympathy for him as it can't have been nice to have the Syco machine working against you, he was the one who chose to react in the way he's alleged to have done today (and it seems to be coming from too many sources to be totally made up), he was the one who chose to come to work drunk/hungover, he was the one who decided to use the "c" word, and he was the one who threw his toys out of the pram. And all this from a 34 year old man.

After getting voted off last night, he should have had a few drinks if that's what he wanted to do and then an early night in preparation for today/tonight, following which he should have had the decency and good grace to turn up and play his part along with everyone else who'd been voted off. X Factor gave him a lot of exposure...... ok, they were wrong to mount a campaign against him, but he would still have won from the process. I think he has scored a massive own goal.
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