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Independent - Strong - Woman
God this is getting tiresome, the girls just go on endlessly about being strong independent "women". Hasn't it been about 40 years now since women started to become increasingly independent ? Going on ad nauseam about it in 2012 seems really passée and sad.
Anyone else getting fed up with the girls going on about this all the time ? |
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Haven't really noticed it that much tbh, outside of the previous task. Has Maria been going on about it and I've just missed it? Sounds like something she'd do!
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Haven't really noticed it that much tbh, outside of the previous task. Has Maria been going on about it and I've just missed it? Sounds like something she'd do!
I should probably have clarified that it is mainly 2 or 3 of them, rather than all the girls, but Maria is the main culprit. |
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Ashleigh used it when talking about how they should market their hairspray. So they don't want customers who don't consider themselves 'strong'? Or may be in a loving relationship, so don't really relate to the empty buzzword 'independent'?
If you have to keep telling everyone how strong and independent you are... maybe people will wonder if that's true or just what you'd like to be seen as, you know? Real 'strong and independent' people just kind of exude it, they don't need to put it on a t-shirt. |
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Ashleigh used it when talking about how they should market their hairspray. So they don't want customers who don't consider themselves 'strong'? Or may be in a loving relationship, so don't really relate to the empty buzzword 'independent'?
If you have to keep telling everyone how strong and independent you are... maybe people will wonder if that's true or just what you'd like to be seen as, you know? Real 'strong and independent' people just kind of exude it, they don't need to put it on a t-shirt. Agree with your final paragraph completely. |
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Being in a loving relationship does not make one less ''independent'', unless you think the minute people get into a happy partnership they instantly lose their self-sufficiency and become simpering doormats. That's absurd.
Frankly I wouldn't have it any other way. I would never stand in her way of doing anything that she wanted to do (although I might suggest life insurance if it was uber dangerous!), because it's her sparky nature and strength of character that I fell in love with all those years ago. The day that she started asking my permission all the time and acting like she was entirely dependent on me for everything would be the tragic day that we'd both know our marriage was over. |
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Being in a loving relationship does not make one less ''independent'', unless you think the minute people get into a happy partnership they instantly lose their self-sufficiency and become simpering doormats. That's absurd.
And again, I agree it's the needless conflation of these perhaps all-positive qualities with just about anything - in this case some bloody hairspray - that makes the words seem so blithely overused. |
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I don't have a problem with people thinking of themselves as being independent, it's the independent woman thing that annoys me. I don't think independent women are any more impressive than independent men. Maybe they were in the 70s and 80s, but not in 2012. I would describe myself as being independent, more so than most people I know anyway. I think this because I have no shame in being completely who I am and expressing that to the world. I'm honest really. If I think something negative about someone, I'll tell them straight out. And if I'm feeling smiley, I'll skip along the street singing Walking On Sunshine at the top of my voice, if that's what I feel like doing. Some people are a bit taken aback at this, but I think it's just me being me. I won't change or censor who I am for anyone.
I don't go about talking about being independent all the time though - it's different here because it's just come up in conversation. The irony is that if you feel the need to tell everyone that you're independent, then you need them to admire you for it, therefore annulling your independence. That's what I think anyway, feel free to disagree! |
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God this is getting tiresome, the girls just go on endlessly about being strong independent "women". Hasn't it been about 40 years now since women started to become increasingly independent ? Going on ad nauseam about it in 2012 seems really passée and sad.
Anyone else getting fed up with the girls going on about this all the time ? The ad with the woman and the boxers was borderline sexist. As for Girl Power, don't they mean sing some songs that someone else wrote, and then marry an extremely rich footballer? |
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Being Norn Oirisch, Maria will probably be married with a couple of kids by the time she is 25.
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