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Old 25-01-2013, 11:08
Ian F 2012
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I relistened to the livesey show from Monday & the earlier part was not great but the relationships section at the end on parent dating & (separate topic) affairs was actually very good & not handled in a Derbyshire "fanny-centric" (still makes me laugh each time I read that) but sensible adult approach with couple of interesting calls... This unfortunately spoilt by the stupid singing of text messages in between which posters pointed out meant that they had already switched off...shame... this is a bit more of what late night 5live can do ...

To the phone in....it may have been a "headline" dubious... But an hour on did he didn't he kick,should he get punishment was poor & tedious....and a minor story out of others...
No it was the soccercentric BBC approach to everything.. They have to reference it everywhere....and anyway isn't talking about an issue in the news the definition pretty much of current affairs???

on the plus side on breakfast we had no squeezed story (though wu2m at end was bizarre with burden & Reilly) and switch to 2 presenters at 7:00! not before...nicky obviously not interested in Icelandic names...
They did give it the full three minutes, bit to be honest I think that Campbell was speechless at Burdens handling of the interview with Sally Magnusson. You could hear the panic in her voice as Magnusson explained how there are three genders in the Icelandic language, and the music of doom got louder and louder....
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Old 25-01-2013, 17:40
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Again, damned if they do and damned if they don't. A news and sport station having a soccer-centric phone in. Which also happened to be in all of the papers and trending on Twitter.

Are people seriously suggesting that a debate on Cameron's Europe speech would have been preferable?
you're not getting it are you?
We are critical of them for being soccer centric because they protest they are covering other sports but they are not & they take every opportunity to stick a football piece in however tenuous....

you just said its a news & sport station...not news & football....

we gave other valid suggestions other than EU because what were they going to talk about for an hour....
Did he kick,should he?what should happen to him....for an hour....??

Was it on every front page then? Maybe...mostly back pages I should think....

& the over reliance of 5live on Twitter is absolutely laughable....is that really what should drive editorial decisions on a national station? Really?
They have been royally criticised from a lot of circles for being so influenced by twitter.....a place where everyone and their dog commenting on everyone and everything without any recourse......thats great as the net is free to do so but it shouldn't drive programs....

They take no notice of broadcasting forums why should twitter decide what to cover & I clearly recall you being annoyed that anyone can say what they want about people on here with tweets there's virtually no moderating whatsoever....


Oh Ian... Yes it was hilarious listening to sally Magnusson.....absolutely I was really interested in the topic & it just sank....
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Old 25-01-2013, 18:04
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Weekly update on the attendance of Queen Victoria.

In Salford 2 days out of 5 this week.

Year to date it's 4 days out of 12, a stunning 33% .

Another 2 day week. Year to date 6 days out of 16 (tennis on today)
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Old 25-01-2013, 18:05
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you're not getting it are you?
We are critical of them for being soccer centric because they protest they are covering other sports but they are not & they

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I am sure the 6 nations preview they had for an hour and a half is rugby related..before that there was Olympic related chat so its maybe unfair to say its just football.

If you mean during the day then fair enough as I don't listen then and its probably true to a point.

Many people jump on the england world cup/european bandwagon for example.
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Old 25-01-2013, 18:42
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I am sure the 6 nations preview they had for an hour and a half is rugby related..before that there was Olympic related chat so its maybe unfair to say its just football.

If you mean during the day then fair enough as I don't listen then and its probably true to a point.

Many people jump on the england world cup/european bandwagon for example.
They had tennis on today and tomorrow/Sunday.

They have extensive cricket/tennis/golf/horse racing/rugby coverage around major events and all the F1. It's not that football centric and not compared to most print media. They now have a dedicated cycling show too.

Sports Extra had netball on this week.
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Old 25-01-2013, 19:40
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Sports Extra had netball on this week.
On breakfast ,George Reilly said that it was a fantastic show and that he had listened to it
What makes me think that I don't believe him...

Netball on the radio or football on the TV...
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Old 25-01-2013, 19:58
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We are critical of them for being soccer centric because they protest they are covering other sports but they are not & they take every opportunity to stick a football piece in however tenuous....
They had the tennis on all morning today, cricket updates when England have been playing India, and netball was even in the sports news.

the over reliance of 5live on Twitter is absolutely laughable....is that really what should drive editorial decisions on a national station?
Tweets and texts from listeners tell the station which topics people are thinking about. If a lot of listeners are expressing views on a topic, they may make that topic the topic of the phone-in. I don't think there is anything wrong with making decisions about what to talk about based on what listeners are talking about.

I think the time spent reading texts and tweets generally in news programmes on the BBC is time that in the past may have been taken up with coverage of news items.

Another 2 day week. Year to date 6 days out of 16 (tennis on today)
But theoretically the tennis could have finished during her show, so this week shouldn't be treated as a four-day week.
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Old 25-01-2013, 20:08
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They had tennis on today and tomorrow/Sunday.

They have extensive cricket/tennis/golf/horse racing/rugby coverage around major events and all the F1. It's not that football centric and not compared to most print media. They now have a dedicated cycling show too.

Sports Extra had netball on this week.
there has been a little change in pieces but not to the hype they were proposing on smaller sports during Olympics....they have always covered those sports above....
.& generally the whole tone is made on there as they always throw football into irrelevant situations....I know it particularly irks the F1 posters here when the commentators mention it _ Jake Humphrey was especially guilty of this.......

to put in context though really MarkF & WNS rather than saying generally about other sports coverage really in this case we were specifically talking about the phone in as I posted that where I yawned that of all things they'd decided on the player kicking ball boy ....it just seemed a non story when the immigration backlog (for example amongst others) was surely more phone in suitable IMO.....

& I still don't think Twitter is the yardstick to decide on editorial.....bacon started this obsession & it's spread like wildfire through the BBC.....
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Old 25-01-2013, 20:17
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there has been a little change in pieces but not to the hype they were proposing on smaller sports during Olympics....
The netball commentary and updates, the basketball commentary, and ice hockey internationals indicate the BBC is going in the right direction. I think there is still progress to be made.

A minority sports show focusing on domestic minority sport over the weekend, and featuring commentaries, reports and highlights is something I would support. I would want it to have plenty of action, and not just a load of talking.
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Old 26-01-2013, 11:39
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you're not getting it are you?
We are critical of them for being soccer centric because they protest they are covering other sports but they are not & they take every opportunity to stick a football piece in however tenuous....

you just said its a news & sport station...not news & football....


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Oh I'm getting it.

And you're biting.

Only to have your arguments disproved by others.
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Old 26-01-2013, 13:44
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I think you will find that the "kick the ball boy" story was on most news pages as well as the Sports sections Sky news at 11PM had it as their second item.. The behaviour of Professional Footballers is of interest outside of the back pages. And whether you like it or not Football remains far and away the most popular spectator sport in the UK.

As for the Europe speech of David Cameron 5 live spent most of Wednesday discussing little else.

Overall could some critics look at the whole day's output and tell us which stories 5 live don't cover?
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Old 26-01-2013, 13:46
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Another 2 day week. Year to date 6 days out of 16 (tennis on today)
Some people might wonder if you are stalking Queen Victoria
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Old 26-01-2013, 14:30
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Some people might wonder if you are stalking Queen Victoria
How is looking at a webcam, a facility provided by 5 live, "stalking"?
Another poster on here made a similarly ridiculous comment about checking someone's Twitter account.
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Old 26-01-2013, 14:39
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Oh I'm getting it.

And you're biting.

Only to have your arguments disproved by others.
I don' t bite I usually address points raised......
something you frequently fail to do I'm afraid...
you occasionally reply to one point amongst others being made by posters but where I and streaky bacon & others have raised points you have no answers or suggestions.....

.not sure where you think an argument has been disproved on here....see no evidence of that merely other people's opinions which are fine....we can all agree to disagree....
..I and others proposed other suggestions which you also failed to respond to we offered other ideas instead of just being the BBC' s self appointed PR & never accepting any negatives about it....

I said before if you're not keen on the criticism as well as the praise on this thread please feel free to go off and start your own one that is totally pro BBC I'm sure you'll be much happier there....
I thought that's what you' d done for a while TBH but you couldn't resist leaving the organization undefended......
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Old 26-01-2013, 15:12
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How is looking at a webcam, a facility provided by 5 live, "stalking"?
Another poster on here made a similarly ridiculous comment about checking someone's Twitter account.
My suggestion was made in jest but never mind. Would the phrase "should get out a bit more" do you?
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Old 26-01-2013, 16:17
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[quote=lordloz;63856566]this.......

to put in context though really MarkF & WNS rather than saying generally about other sports coverage really in this case we were specifically talking about the phone in as I posted that where I yawned that of all things they'd decided on the player kicking ball boy ....it just seemed a non story when the immigration backlog (for example amongst others) was surely more phone in suitable IMO.....
QUOTE]

Fair enough,,,as I say don';t get to listen during the day expect weekends.

I would say a lot of the Olympic sports aren't in action as such ATM.
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Old 26-01-2013, 16:26
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I don' t bite I usually address points raised......
something you frequently fail to do I'm afraid...
you occasionally reply to one point amongst others being made by posters but where I and streaky bacon & others have raised points you have no answers or suggestions.....

.not sure where you think an argument has been disproved on here....see no evidence of that merely other people's opinions which are fine....we can all agree to disagree....
..I and others proposed other suggestions which you also failed to respond to we offered other ideas instead of just being the BBC' s self appointed PR & never accepting any negatives about it....

I said before if you're not keen on the criticism as well as the praise on this thread please feel free to go off and start your own one that is totally pro BBC I'm sure you'll be much happier there....
I thought that's what you' d done for a while TBH but you couldn't resist leaving the organization undefended......
A whole list of points about your "football centric" arguments has been provided. Phil, above, has explained why he thought the ball boy story was a good topic for the phone in. I happen to agree. If you can't "see any evidence" that's your issue.

I love this "self appointed PR" nonsense. Like you, I'm providing an opinion, which I'm just as entitled to as you are. I'll give as good as I get in the spirit of robust debate, if it's OK by you?

What puzzles me (and this isn't necessarily you) is why some people - who clearly have a hatred for certain presenters - seem to find so much time to listen to shows they dislike or monitor on a daily basis which chair they're sitting in. That's just odd.
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Old 26-01-2013, 17:44
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My suggestion was made in jest but never mind. Would the phrase "should get out a bit more" do you?
And it's not "misogyny" either - or was that also said in jest?
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Old 26-01-2013, 17:45
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Old 26-01-2013, 19:43
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Again, damned if they do and damned if they don't. A news and sport station having a soccer-centric phone in. Which also happened to be in all of the papers and trending on Twitter.

Are people seriously suggesting that a debate on Cameron's Europe speech would have been preferable?
I'm with you on this one even tho' I always switch off when any phone in comes on............

'Player kicks ball boy' happens every 15 years

Cameron launches 5 year Euro referendum campaign can wait for a quiet day............we've got 5 years !
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Old 26-01-2013, 20:04
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I hate late kick offs, especially when they delay Saturday Edition.

I'd just do away with 6-0-6 or stick it on Sports Xtra, especially with the focus on getting people to listen to DAB
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Old 26-01-2013, 22:50
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Why are they repeating part of last night's show ?

Is Nolan still hacking up disgustingly off mic ?
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Old 26-01-2013, 23:42
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A whole list of points about your "football centric" arguments has been provided. Phil, above, has explained why he thought the ball boy story was a good topic for the phone in. I happen to agree. If you can't "see any evidence" that's your issue.

I love this "self appointed PR" nonsense. Like you, I'm providing an opinion, which I'm just as entitled to as you are. I'll give as good as I get in the spirit of robust debate, if it's OK by you?

What puzzles me (and this isn't necessarily you) is why some people - who clearly have a hatred for certain presenters - seem to find so much time to listen to shows they dislike or monitor on a daily basis which chair they're sitting in. That's just odd.
I don't think Phil giving his opinion is a whole list of points & you agreeing is totally disproving an argument...
Its not nonsense citing you as BBC pr as every post you make is always a defence of the corporation come what may....its not just me that's said this to you as you know with your discussion with streaky & others I have no need or want to particularly single anyone person out here & give out anything but continued total blank of any critical discourse of BBC shows does put you rather in the fedster camp....

Pleased you realise i don't just hate presenters i used to like the station & like parts of it & started this to discuss & suggest improvements as id like to listen more....

case in point i switched to Simon & jo then Robert Elms on BBC London this morning... Great mix of topics & culture & music (i know they can't do music) certainly was more what 5live could be more of.. (though i never listen to Vanessa felts on there. That we don't need more of.. )
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Old 28-01-2013, 08:40
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Just to return to topic, Nicky Campbell was back on form again this morning. He came on air early , and interrupted a discussion on Andy Murrey's blisters, despite admitting he had not watched the game.Then after the news he was busy trying to set up a row over the HS2 extension. I got fed up with that, so swithched off.It is a tired old format, what is wrong with having a proper discussion.
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Old 28-01-2013, 17:14
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Just to return to topic, Nicky Campbell was back on form again this morning. He came on air early , and interrupted a discussion on Andy Murrey's blisters, despite admitting he had not watched the game.Then after the news he was busy trying to set up a row over the HS2 extension. I got fed up with that, so swithched off.It is a tired old format, what is wrong with having a proper discussion.
I heard that Ian.....the funny part was Jonathan Overrend just carried on & ignored him & talked over him

incidentally he (overrend) got knocky himself the other week interviewing goran ivanisovich when he said " you English media give andy Murray a hard time" and curtly snapped "no we don't")

anyway it was very bad this morning....
some thing about Jan moir column I think but it really shows how either needs to be no split shift or just producer cue him in at 7:00'..... simples......
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