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I never said he was back, was just congratulating him, rather a Chelsea player won it than someone else. Winning matches, competitions...awards...etc...breeds confidence so it can only be a good thing.
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Are people saying that he has won two golden boots by accident?
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He hasn't exactly lit up the last two tournaments he competed in...
I'd say its an extreme form of papering over the cracks in regards to the player. Three players scored a combined 11 goals against one of the tournaments, amateur sides. Brazil for instance, played against three sides ranked higher than themselves, and one of their players got a goal less than Torres, despite not having, basically a free game to get his tally up. Tahiti essentially skewed the whole tournament in terms of individual achievement, I can't see why anyone would think otherwise. |
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We would get much more than £15m for him!
Probably worth 25m to 30m |
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Are people saying that he has won two golden boots by accident?
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Absolutely not. We'd be incredibly lucky to get £10m for him.
His stock in the european game is actually quite high. Are you seriously suggesting he is worth £5m less than west ham paid for andy carroll? |
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I cannot agree with you there.
His stock in the european game is actually quite high. Are you seriously suggesting he is worth £5m less than west ham paid for andy carroll? The only way we will get £15-£30m is if whedon247 becomes an overnight billionaire and buys a football team. |
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Absolutely not. We'd be incredibly lucky to get £10m for him.
But he's still got 3 years left on his contract at various estimates between £170k and £200k a week. He's not going to be asking for a transfer any time soon, and who can blame him ? I suppose to find a buyer willing to honour the rest of his contract, we would have to take a massive loss on his market value ? |
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They are talking about £12m for David Villa and he's a couple of years older than Torres. So in theory we should realistically be able to get close to £20m for him.
But he's still got 3 years left on his contract at various estimates between £170k and £200k a week. He's not going to be asking for a transfer any time soon, and who can blame him ? I suppose to find a buyer willing to honour the rest of his contract, we would have to take a massive loss on his market value ? Regarding Torres...he's too much of a risk for anyone to pay that much for him, especially when you consider the wages he'd demand. It's easy to say he's worth £15-30m, but to suggest that anyone would actually pay it for him is..... If he ever leaves it will be around £10m + us paying a load of his wages. I think its safe to say we're stuck with him.
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Andy Carroll has nothing to do with it.
The only way we will get £15-£30m is if whedon247 becomes an overnight billionaire and buys a football team. I dont pay any attention to what we pay for players as its all inflated due to the insane football is run nowadays. Any player we buy is not worth the money we pay be it Torries for 50 million or Joe Blogs for 5 Million none of them are worth it. He has come to Chelsea and done what can be expected of him. I rather have him then 9 out of 10 the latest you tube fan boys are obbessed that have been linked with us |
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£12m would be a silly price for Villa, I think we've all said it at some point in recent months. Can't see anyone paying it for him.
Regarding Torres...he's too much of a risk for anyone to pay that much for him, especially when you consider the wages he'd demand. It's easy to say he's worth £15-30m, but to suggest that anyone would actually pay it for him is..... If he ever leaves it will be £10m + us paying a load of his wages. I think its safe to say we're stuck with him.Torres is still a massive "name" in world football. I'm a little surprised one of the nouveau riche clubs hasn't shown any interest, they appear to be less interested in current form and age, and more eager to obtain players with big reputations. |
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£12m would be a silly price for Villa, I think we've all said it at some point in recent months. Can't see anyone paying it for him.
Regarding Torres...he's too much of a risk for anyone to pay that much for him, especially when you consider the wages he'd demand. It's easy to say he's worth £15-30m, but to suggest that anyone would actually pay it for him is..... If he ever leaves it will be around £10m + us paying a load of his wages. I think its safe to say we're stuck with him. |
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Wages do destroy transfer fees.
Who in their right mind will take on rooneys 250k a week wages, especially when some fans are saying he is worth a £50m fee on top of that! Its safe to say arsenal will not be buying him |
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Wages do destroy transfer fees.
Who in their right mind will take on rooneys 250k a week wages, especially when some fans are saying he is worth a £50m fee on top of that! Its safe to say arsenal will not be buying him |
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How many Trophies have Chelsea Won since Bates was bought out ?
Anyway how ever many it is probably around 10 you have to divide it by the £850 Million pounds that has been spent since takeover to get them which means Chelsea pay around £85 Million pounds per Trophy. Seems a lot.
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True, but since it's not our money all Chelsea fans see is 10 trophies. Roman has been pretty good for us.
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Roman has not been "pretty good" for us, he has been amazing.
We have a team packed with some of the most exciting young talent in the game. We are linked with the best striker available in the transfer market. We are still polishing back to back trophies of european tournaments. Its been great, hopefully we can add more next season! |
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Wages do destroy transfer fees.
Who in their right mind will take on rooneys 250k a week wages, especially when some fans are saying he is worth a £50m fee on top of that! Its safe to say arsenal will not be buying him We paid £24m for a 29 year-old striker, in the last year of his contract, because he played for a rival. I totally agree about Arsenal, though. He won't go there. |
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We paid £24m for a 29 year-old striker, in the last year of his contract, because he played for a rival.
I totally agree about Arsenal, though. He won't go there. Rooney has 2 suitors, and one, like we both agree, could never afford him. This drives the price down. |
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The gossip is that Cavani is coming to us rather than Madrid.
Ok, i will not believe it until he is posing next to the shirt with Jose, but how would his transfer impact the team? Is that the end of ba, torres or lukaku? |
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Of course he's not 'worth' that, but it's what we need to do to stop him going to a direct rival, in my opinion. I've said previously, £30m would be enough for a foreign club.
We paid £24m for a 29 year-old striker, in the last year of his contract, because he played for a rival. I totally agree about Arsenal, though. He won't go there. |
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I thought the RVP fee was because he was an excellent striker and had a whole host of suitors - it became a bidding war (and could have played in europe).
Rooney has 2 suitors, and one, like we both agree, could never afford him. This drives the price down. We paid a big fee, for somebody in his position, because Arsenal would have rather not have sold to us, or City. Ultimately they had to sell him, because of him being in the last year of his contract, but they still played hardball and got a decent price. That's all that I'm saying that we should do with Rooney, except that we're in a stronger position than Arsenal were, because he has longer left on his contract. And I'm amazed that you know exactly who's in for him. You must be well connected. If you're just basing that on speculation, then you seem to have forgotten that he's also been linked with PSG, Barcelona, Monaco and Bayern Munich. |
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And I'm amazed that you know exactly who's in for him. You must be well connected. If you're just basing that on speculation, then you seem to have forgotten that he's also been linked with PSG, Barcelona, Monaco and Bayern Munich.
London seems the only destination. Its not speculation, just my opinion. |
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I just cannot wee wayne and coleen (and their children) moving to europe. They seem family oriented, i doubt wayne would learn a new language or fit into a foreign culture too well.
London seems the only destination. Its not speculation, just my opinion. |
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How many Trophies have Chelsea Won since Bates was bought out ?
Anyway how ever many it is probably around 10 you have to divide it by the £850 Million pounds that has been spent since takeover to get them which means Chelsea pay around £85 Million pounds per Trophy. Seems a lot. ![]() 3 x Premier League 1 x Champions League 1 x Europa League 4 x FA Cup 2 x League Cup |
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If he ever leaves it will be around £10m + us paying a load of his wages. I think its safe to say we're stuck with him.
that has been spent since takeover to get them which means Chelsea pay around £85 Million pounds per Trophy.
