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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 3)
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seellee
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“I'll just go and polish my CL trophy, thanks. Looks good next to all the premierships doesn't it!”

I'm not getting into the trophy dick waving contest. We know how that will end
codeblue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“I'm not getting into the trophy dick waving contest. We know how that will end ”

You are the new preston north end. Its over for you. History.
seellee
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“You are the new preston north end. Its over for you. History.”

Well, if it is all over. What a history!!
codeblue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Well, if it is all over. What a history!!”

Indeed, quite a story to tell your United supporting grandchildren.
Dixon
05-02-2013
According to a few people in the game talking on 5 Live, either Zola or Poyet will be the next manager.

One side of me would be over the moon to have Zola as our next manager, but the other side would dread it in fear of him being a flop and sacked within a year.
NinjyBear
05-02-2013
I'd be angry with either of those 2.
The_don1
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“According to a few people in the game talking on 5 Live, either Zola or Poyet will be the next manager.

One side of me would be over the moon to have Zola as our next manager, but the other side would dread it in fear of him being a flop and sacked within a year.”

either of them have been our next manager for at least the last 2 sackings. Typical lazy media talk
The_don1
05-02-2013
if it was either of them (which i dont think it will be) I would go for Poyet myself. Has impressed me so far as a manager and set his team out very well against us in pre-season. Not saying he at the level we need (4/5 years away i think for both) but out of the two Poyet has a slightly better chance of doing well
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“There was me thinking your objective was to get back into the top 4 again too.......”

We're in the top 3, never mind the top 4 and have qualified for the Champions League for the last 10 seasons. Doesn't really matter how it was achieved last season, we still got the job done. Even with Benitez in charge I'd be very surprised if we don't make it 11 seasons.
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Hmmm there's a distinct theme running there as to why a good manager and a good player couldn't produce at Chelsea. Have you ever thought its Chelsea that's the problem?”

Why didn't Hodgson produce at Liverpool? Or Carroll, Adams etc make the grade there? That's football. What works for one club isn't right for another.
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“According to a few people in the game talking on 5 Live, either Zola or Poyet will be the next manager.

One side of me would be over the moon to have Zola as our next manager, but the other side would dread it in fear of him being a flop and sacked within a year.”

Neither would be right just yet. They're still cutting their teeth in management and i'd fear a repeat of the RDM sacking.
seellee
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Why didn't Hodgson produce at Liverpool? Or Carroll, Adams etc make the grade there? That's football. What works for one club isn't right for another.”

Where has Hodgson produced at the top level? He's hardly been consistently winning trophies and considering he's got such a long career behind him, I don't reckon he's done that much. He's been alright for bottom of the table teams though.
Dixon
05-02-2013
Zola and Poyet might not be ready yet, but we are running out of serious and guarenteed better alternatives.
The top managers are all tied up at other clubs, so that means we're probably going to be taking a punt on whoever we go for next.

Poyet has been doing well for a few years now, and Zola is doing a great job at Watfrod, and got them playing attractive football as well.

Lets not forget just how popular Zola was as at Chelsea, so him coming back would lift the roof for his first game, and boy does it need somthing like that kind of appointment to lift the club again.
5th time lucky
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Hmmm there's a distinct theme running there as to why a good manager and a good player couldn't produce at Chelsea. Have you ever thought its Chelsea that's the problem?

As for the posts above, I really can't remember many Liverpool fans blasting him and saying he was greedy. I've seen people like me saving judgement. I'll be the first to admit I wasn't convinced but I was basing my opinion on his time at Chelsea. Perhaps unfairly because he didn't get a huge amount of playtime. His all round game has been the most impressive thing so far for me.

As for the pool fan saying he was like Torres circa 07/08 shush now. That's going a bit ott. Torres was magnificent around that time. I still salivate over the prospect of an on his game Torres and Suarez combination!”

Your the one that needs to 'shush now' if you cant read properly you should keep your fingers from typing.

I'll repeat again for the anyone who didn't grasp it the first time, Suarez aside that performance from Sturridge against City was the best ive seen from a Liverpool striker since Torres in his prime, it was a truly fantastic performance, if Liverpool can see that consistantly they will be absolutlely laughing.
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by seellee:
“Where has Hodgson produced at the top level? He's hardly been consistently winning trophies and considering he's got such a long career behind him, I don't reckon he's done that much. He's been alright for bottom of the table teams though.”

You've pretty much proved my point. Hodgson wasn't viewed as good enough for Liverpool, just as Sturridge wasn't deemed of the standard required for Chelsea. Sturridge was on our books for 3 years so the decision wasn't made on a whim. It must've been a view shared by the other top teams as apart from Liverpool no-one else came in for him despite a sensible asking price (in particular the likes of Spurs and Arsenal who certainly have space for another striker in their squads). Sorry if that's not what you want to hear, and you want us to rue him leaving but the majority of Chelsea fans aren't as we were frustrated no end by him.
The_don1
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by 5th time lucky:
“Your the one that needs to 'shush now' if you cant read properly you should keep your fingers from typing.

I'll repeat again for the anyone who didn't grasp it the first time, Suarez aside that performance from Sturridge against City was the best ive seen from a Liverpool striker since Torres in his prime, it was a truly fantastic performance, if Liverpool can see that consistantly they will be absolutlely laughing.”

So we are taking out Torries and Suarez, Who is his competition for this best performance from a Liverpool striker?
5th time lucky
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Sturridge was poor at chelsea. Its ok for people to look back with rose tinted spectacles but he was greedy, wasteful and not at all a team player.

Last week LFC wans were moaning that he was greedy and selfish. He scores 1 goal and now they think he is the new Falaco! Talk about knee jerk fans!”

Bit of a bitter nasty undertone to you isn't there?, sure your not an Everton fan?

The Liverpool forum i frequent have been delighted with Sturridge since his first game, there were concerns about his attitude and selfishness from some BEFORE he played his first game but that was down to all the rumours from Chelsea.

Hes dispelled the myth about his attitude and selfishness already, every interview he has come across very humble and grateful, his on pitch displays speak for themselves.

So for whatever reason your feeling the need to lie which is a bit pathetic really, but each to their own.

By the way its Falcao not Falaco, good luck with him but i think he'll jib you off Pep style and go to Real.

I think you will end up signing Uruguays second best striker in Cavani so still not to bad

Im off to polish those 5 European cups, the 3 UEFA cups can wait till tommorow
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“So we are taking out Torries and Suarez, Who is his competition for this best performance from a Liverpool striker?”

Ha! That pretty much just leaves Andy Carroll and Fabio Borini then....
NinjyBear
05-02-2013
Andrey Voronin and David N'gog.
5th time lucky
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“So we are taking out Torries and Suarez, Who is his competition for this best performance from a Liverpool striker?”

Your looking to deep into it, all i said it was the best performance ive seen from a Liverpool striker since the Torres in his prime.

Touchy lot lol.
carefree_blue
05-02-2013
5th time lucky, have you even posted on the Liverpool thread yet (you know, the club you claim to support)? Or have you just signed up to WUM on ours?
The_don1
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by 5th time lucky:
“Your looking to deep into it, all i said it was the best performance ive seen from a Liverpool striker since the Torres in his prime.

Touchy lot lol.”

We are discussing how good he is, You are saying he gave a great performance and i am asking who you are holding that up against,

Its comes down to what alot of Chelsea fans are saying and the level of the player. It was a very good performance when compared to Liverpool strikers (your words) what Chelsea fans are saying we expect better ones
batdude_uk1
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by NinjyBear:
“Andrey Voronin and David N'gog.”

Don't forget Sean "Crocodile" Dundee!
The_don1
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by 5th time lucky:
“Bit of a bitter nasty undertone to you isn't there?, sure your not an Everton fan?

The Liverpool forum i frequent have been delighted with Sturridge since his first game, there were concerns about his attitude and selfishness from some BEFORE he played his first game but that was down to all the rumours from Chelsea.

Hes dispelled the myth about his attitude and selfishness already, every interview he has come across very humble and grateful, his on pitch displays speak for themselves.
So for whatever reason your feeling the need to lie which is a bit pathetic really, but each to their own.

By the way its Falcao not Falaco, good luck with him but i think he'll jib you off Pep style and go to Real.

I think you will end up signing Uruguays second best striker in Cavani so still not to bad

Im off to polish those 5 European cups, the 3 UEFA cups can wait till tommorow”

Yes because you can tell more about someone who has been at a new job for a couple of weeks then you can tell about them from being at a job for 3 years
seellee
05-02-2013
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“We are discussing how good he is, You are saying he gave a great performance and i am asking who you are holding that up against,

Its comes down to what alot of Chelsea fans are saying and the level of the player. It was a very good performance when compared to Liverpool strikers (your words) what Chelsea fans are saying we expect better ones”

If you were talking about CL football then I would agree. However last time I looked Chelsea are in the same league as Liverpool. So if he's scoring for Liverpool he'd score for Chelsea. Both teams play the same players and teams. If you are talking CL that's different. The problem at Chelsea was that he was played on the wing quite a lot. Personally I'd have dropped Torres ages ago and given him a chance.
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