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#2451 |
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Imo, the main worry about keeping Mata and Hazard is not about us winning trophies, but how long it is before Barca or Real Madrid come looking for them.
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I don't expect Hazard to be here more than a few years, but Mata came from La Liga and has said some negative stuff about it, so I'm not too worried about him leaving.
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I actually think we'll keep Hazard for a while. He's Belgian like Lukaku and will be more used to northern european climate and culture. At some point Mata will go home and Oscar probably grew up watching La Liga so will head that way too. Hopefully before they head off they'll win some trophies with us.
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At least with Eden we've got his brother on our books too. Providing Thorghan makes the grade with us then it gives him one extra reason to stick around.
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Nice win at the weekend against West Ham. Eden was top class yet again, as was Mata. Our creative midfield is certainly improving as the season progresses.
In regards to our strikers. Really can't decide if it would be best to loan Lukaku out again or keep him at the club. Maybe the club should discuss it with him and see what he wants to do. If he really wants to stay and fight for a place in the team let him. However if he still feels he wants to go out on loan to get more first team action, again maybe we should let him do so. If Lukaku does go out on loan again, then we have to bolster our striking options, which we should probably be doing anyway. Whether Torres stays is obviously up to Abramovich. There has been no indication that he is looking to get rid of Torres apart from the rumours he could be used as part of an exchange deal with Falcao. If we really do want Falcao, I think we have to let Atletico keep Courtois. Apparently they are really interested in keeping him and so we may have to include him in any deal instead of or with Torres. Ultimately if Falcao does come, Torres will probably have to leave the club, as we shouldn't be paying two top striker wages when one will always start games whilst the other will be on the subs bench. The only definite for next season is Ba. There are a lot of questions regarding everyone else. Who's to say Roman won't go after a totally different striker like Cavani, who obviously is seen as the alternative to Falcao. If you look at the rumours currently, Roman wants Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, but looks like he may go to PSG. As mentioned, with Lukaku, let's see what he wants. If we want to keep him happy and at the club we should work with him to develop his career so he can reach his full potential. But I still think, with the right manager, he would get plenty of experience this time around. If we did manage to sign Falcao, we wouldn't want him playing 50+ games a season. Then there's the possibility of playing two from Falcao, Ba and Lukaku. I agree, we might not go for Falcao. But with the Torres/Atletico connection and Courtois to use as a bargaining tool, we must be favourites to get him if we're serious. I read about our interest in Aubameyang, but I've never seen him play to be honest. Looking at his CV he appears to have been more of an attacking midfielder. He's quite slightly built, not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm not sure he would be a genuine alternative to Falcao or Cavani though. Whatever happens, I'm not sure I could stand another season of waiting for Torres to produce the goods. I feel it's time to call it a day, both for his sake and ours. |
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Assuming we did sign Falcao (and i'm not at all optimistic that we will pull off that deal) then I don't see why Lukaku couldn't be brought back into the squad, unless we end up signing more than one new striker. The two strikers that are playing for us at the moment are average, and I'd already rate Lukaku as a better option than either of them. For me, Ba was nothing more than a stop gap signing. If we don't manage to move Torres on in the summer but are offered a profit on Ba I think we should take it (providing we have a new striker and Lukaku with us next season).
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Ten of Frankie's best. Watching these back really brings home what we'll be losing when he leaves.
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Assuming we did sign Falcao (and i'm not at all optimistic that we will pull off that deal) then I don't see why Lukaku couldn't be brought back into the squad, unless we end up signing more than one new striker. The two strikers that are playing for us at the moment are average, and I'd already rate Lukaku as a better option than either of them. For me, Ba was nothing more than a stop gap signing. If we don't manage to move Torres on in the summer but are offered a profit on Ba I think we should take it (providing we have a new striker and Lukaku with us next season).
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Ba's just one of those players that blows hot and cold i think. Quite good in patches but not the most consistent of players. I remember last season for Newcastle he started well then his scoring dried up in the second half of the season.
We are pretty jinxed with strikers though on the whole. Watching some of those Lampard goals in the link you posted above made me think how well an intelligent player like Gudjohnsen would have linked up with Mata and Hazard. |
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Ba's just one of those players that blows hot and cold i think. Quite good in patches but not the most consistent of players. I remember last season for Newcastle he started well then his scoring dried up in the second half of the season.
We are pretty jinxed with strikers though on the whole. Watching some of those Lampard goals in the link you posted above made me think how well an intelligent player like Gudjohnsen would have linked up with Mata and Hazard. Hopefully Ba is just settling in and Lukaku can build an understanding when he come back
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I think his goals dried up when he got moved further out to accommodate Cisse. You're right though, a Gudjohnsen would lap up the service from our current midfield. Or a Hasselbaink, Anelka or Drogba
Hopefully Ba is just settling in and Lukaku can build an understanding when he come back |
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Ba is a decent 3rd choice option. Just so happens for us that we don't have a great option for 1st and 2nd.
Cahill out of Friday's game, Ramires missing for Brazil, and Luiz is a doubt as well. Hope they all miss their games tbh......hate International football. |
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Ba is a decent 3rd choice option. Just so happens for us that we don't have a great option for 1st and 2nd.
Cahill out of Friday's game, Ramires missing for Brazil, and Luiz is a doubt as well. Hope they all miss their games tbh......hate International football. Ive had it with the england team. They treat JT like crap, pander to Rio and he mugs them right off. |
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awryt guys first time posting on here, what would be your perfect summer signings?
Falcao Isco Fellaini Would be my choices along with lukaku, de bruyne and essien comin back. |
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awryt guys first time posting on here, what would be your perfect summer signings?
Falcao Isco Fellaini Would be my choices along with lukaku, de bruyne and essien comin back. I am not that long here either.I would love to see Essien back fit as he is one of my all time favourite players ever. Fellaini would be a great signing for us and i would love to see that happen. But really what we need is a Manager that will stay for longer than 1 season as i think stability is what the club needs. |
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awryt guys first time posting on here, what would be your perfect summer signings?
Falcao Isco Fellaini Would be my choices along with lukaku, de bruyne and essien comin back. i am a big fan of falcao and fellaini and would welcome them to the club with open arms. Fellaini is probably quite likely. I would love to see him ad Luiz in midfield! Lukkaku has to come back over summer. Whats de Bruyne actually like? |
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Whats de Bruyne actually like?
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awryt guys first time posting on here, what would be your perfect summer signings?
Falcao Isco Fellaini Would be my choices along with lukaku, de bruyne and essien comin back. ![]() Rumour has it that we have first option on Isco as part of the Piazon loan deal ? I wonder about that though. In January they were talking in terms of £15m, his reputation has grown since then and Malaga could get closer to double that figure. That's a very big price for a future prospect. Falcao would certainly be top of my wish list. He appears to have everything, pace, dribbling skills, good in the air, and a lethal finish with either foot. He also seems to be a thoroughly decent guy, which is a bonus. I like Fellaini but I've had second thoughts about him being the answer to our problems in DM. He would be fine along with a true holding player, how about Victor Wanyama at Celtic..he appears to be a new version of Michael Essien. |
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Welcome new person
I am not that long here either.I would love to see Essien back fit as he is one of my all time favourite players ever. Fellaini would be a great signing for us and i would love to see that happen. But really what we need is a Manager that will stay for longer than 1 season as i think stability is what the club needs. |
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Falcao would certainly be top of my wish list. He appears to have everything, pace, dribbling skills, good in the air, and a lethal finish with either foot. He also seems to be a thoroughly decent guy, which is a bonus. I like Fellaini but I've had second thoughts about him being the answer to our problems in DM. He would be fine along with a true holding player, how about Victor Wanyama at Celtic..he appears to be a new version of Michael Essien. |
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I am astounded that Juan Mata hasn't made the shortlist for POTY
18 goals and 23 assists |
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I am astounded that Juan Mata hasn't made the shortlist for POTY
18 goals and 23 assists |
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Ridiculous that he isn't, been player of the year for me.
Torres is 29 today, he isn't getting younger, he has to go in the summer. We've given him more than enough time to find his form but it isn't happening, better for everyone if we let him go elsewhere |
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Ridiculous that he isn't, been player of the year for me.
Torres is 29 today, he isn't getting younger, he has to go in the summer. We've given him more than enough time to find his form but it isn't happening, better for everyone if we let him go elsewhere |
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The question is, what sort of transfer fee would it take to sign Torres?
We'll probably either end up keeping him in the squad or sending him out on loan like we did Veron/Crespo/Shevchenko. |
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Hopefully Ba is just settling in and Lukaku can build an understanding when he come back
I am not that long here either.