Whats with this Brits thing today?

I know! Just look at how doggedly vile and spiteful some posters were about Olympic Champion and Winner At Life Victoria Pendleton for as long as she was in (and a bit afterwards as well).

Don't know about anybody else with this old chestnut, but I certainly criticised her dancing (!) and her attitude. And would do so again. Nothing spiteful, no 'b' words, just saying it like I saw it. As, I presume, are those people who don't care for Denise. The only bullying I ever see on these boards is from a small group of posters who believe this is their personal site and that invaders are only welcome if they conform to the opinions of those who fancy themselves in charge.

There is a difference between ambition and desperation. Strictly is not the best platform to use if you are ambitious as no matter how you dress it up it looks desperate because of the nature of the show.

Denise & James made the mistake of being very negative about their training and how everything was going wrong and Saturday night would be a disaster. Then delivered a great routine on the night. Makes people look like the whole thing is either too much hard work or they are lying.

A positive attitude expressed despite problems is so much better.

Have some posts been removed?
The thread seems a bit disjointed

I miss the real Denise.
This pro dancer with no personality just isn't her.

About 2 pages worth

Yes well spotted.

Exactly! That's why i started the thread! Before it was hacked to death by ?????????confused:

You couldn't make it up!

This would be true, if the VTs weren't scripted. It's an entertainment show!

Also, if they had been "wow, our training is going brilliantly and we're going to totally blow you away with this dance" then that would have gone down equally as well.

Maybe they are, in which case they should have been less negative on ITT. Don't need to be all up beat, just far less woe is me. A very fine balancing act Louis seems to have managed well by not saying too much.

How do you know this is an 80% female forum. There have been times when I've for long thought a forum user was a female (because they don't use their own name, just a user name) and then later via some topic discussions find out that they're male, or vice versa too with women that I presumed are male, or with gay men that I've mistook for being women. Sometimes even the age thing I've mispresumed when I've found an older user (through terminology they use) is not younger as I thought.

As to the the response of succesul men vs succesful women. If you're successful then you'll be well recieved period, not just by myself but most Brits I think (whatever their gender). On the odd occasion I'll admit my heart does skip a bit more when you see a clever, funny, intelligent (and sometimes attractive) woman in the media (or other job given prasie in the media) just because it seems more of a rarity (even if it factually isn't and it's just the wider visibilty that is rare).

Personally I think Kimberely is the most pysicallt attractive girl (in the face) this series, while Dani has argubly thwe sweetest personality and Denise the best legs. Lisa has the best staying power.

I always find amusing that whenever a woman criticises another woman, she must be jealous. The jealously accusation is thrown out all so easily. My answer is always the same: Are men who criticise David Beckham's footballing skills jealous of him? - that's how childish it is. I never hear men get accused of being jealous when they make observations. Also, why can't you ever criticise somebody without being told you must hate them or are bitter - again very childish and never a strong argument at all.

It's interesting though that if a fine male specimen is about, whether in person or otherwise, there are women, who revert to " He's going to live in my cave and anyone who so much as even gives him a funny look, or gets near him, or wants him to not be leader, I will smite her with my primitive axe in my hot little hand". It's quite sweet, really. I'm the same.

Women are competitive - not just men. It's an instinctive thing, to get the best genes for offspring. Not that these days, we are all likely to be receiving, the genes from the most alpha males.

Times have moved on. Please do not use a primitive axe, use a Black and Decker steel axe.

Now that makes sense. I shall look at my hedgecutter in a different light, now... and possibly my electric whisk. As Corporal Jones used to say in 'Dad's Army, " They don't like it ...". ( etc)

All the training shots emphasise the difficulties - it's only natural. I am glad that the dancers are not shown falling down nowadays - I thought that was too childish. I went to dance lessons for several decades and never fell down once.

James's choreography is pretty bad. That is why Denise isn't way in-front.

It seems that it's worse to criticize the professionals for horrible poor choreography than to say a celeb is crap...

Lisa - I think she should do a John Sergeant and withdraw, It must be pretty obvious even to her that she's surviving due to the "fun factor" rather than any real dance talent,

Women being jealous of attractive women on reality/talent shows is nothing but a myth perpetuated by men who only ever support attractive women on these shows. Most of the women who win these shows are young and conventionally attractive aren't they?

Women grow up being taught to love pretty, attractive, glamorous, sparkly, things. Men are the one who get jealous of beauty.

The women who are the most disliked on reality/talent shows tend to be unattractive but self confident women.

The reason Denise is unpopular is because the producers wanted her to be, and because she's with James, IMO.

James isn't that unpopular except on this board. He did quite well with Alex last year and she couldn't dance for toffee because she wasn't at all musical and also didn't have a clue, when she started. I reckon that part of the reason James gets a bashing on here is because he's one of the few pros who seems as if stroppy women couldn't walk all over him.

I had wondered if she was actually dancing poorly, on purpose?

I have changed my opinion of her through this series from wishing she was not in it to not minding her being in it when she dances and screws up - which is terrible I know. I actually feel like letting out an evil laugh when she gets picked apart which is terrible and un-christian of me, especially at this time of year.

BIB That's an interesting theory. I wonder if D&J knew about it! I suspect not as their over-inflated egos proved last weekend. WHAT? WE are in the dance-off? How DARE the public put US in the dance-off. Hence the miffed/arsey faces.

James had no delusions of grandeur with Alex and was pleased as punch to reach the Last Five. As a result he was relaxed and not constantly pulling in a tug-o-war against voters and this forum. When James stopped bashing voters over the head they voted for him.

Not James's vintage year for dance, but his sweetest. He smiled throughout.

Me,too. I worry more that future contestants, feisty successful women with a modicum of dance experience, will simply not sign up to SCD because of the flak they'll get.