Originally Posted by goldenface:
“Aspartame, is toxic and can do more harm than good.”
“Aspartame, is toxic and can do more harm than good.”
Little evidence that supports that assertion.
Getting used to artificial sweetener
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Originally Posted by Quackers:
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
Or diabetic and looking for something other than water to drink.
Originally Posted by Quackers:
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
Link?
Oh, and I've been drinking diet pop for years and I've never been an overeater or had a weight problem.
Originally Posted by Quackers:
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
“Which was denied for years until the company who made it had his best mate become president then it got approved? and the because USA approved it the rest of the world followed suit? Yeah thats the one....
If you think you need to switch to diet products, you just masking the issue, you consuming to much of it.
Address that issue and you will not need to replace regular for these vile tasting diet products.
Did you watch that BBC documenty the truth about low fat products they did a test that showed those who drank the diet drinks ate more than those who had the regular ones with sugar in because the body felt deprived and less satisified.”
Show me the evidence that says aspartame is bad for you.
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Show me the evidence that says aspartame is bad for you.”
“Show me the evidence that says aspartame is bad for you.”
I did some research into this. It appears that when approval for aspartame was first sought, that sloppy science was submitted. However, when investigations were taken further, it was found that while the original science was sloppy, if it had been done properly, the conclusions that aspartame is safe for human consumption would still have been supported. Aspartame is said to be one of the most studied food additives in human history. And whether or not the original applicant was dodgy, it's been far too widely used and studied since then for serious health issues to have remained unknown.
I understand that there's a certain "fight the power/man" aspect to aspartame, and have drunken very little of it even after changing my mind about it. But the evidence that its harmful just isn't there. And people have been looking for evidence of harm for decades now.
The silver spoon with pink lid is the only one I can use.
that new one made from plants is just disgusting even a pinch tastes like 10 spoons of sugar in there.
that new one made from plants is just disgusting even a pinch tastes like 10 spoons of sugar in there.
Originally Posted by moonburn:
“The silver spoon with pink lid is the only one I can use.
that new one made from plants is just disgusting even a pinch tastes like 10 spoons of sugar in there.”
“The silver spoon with pink lid is the only one I can use.
that new one made from plants is just disgusting even a pinch tastes like 10 spoons of sugar in there.”
That's Stevia. I've heard that some people really don't like it. There are Stevia sweentened drinks available from Ocado, but the reviews put me right off.
Originally Posted by WinterFire:
“I did some research into this. It appears that when approval for aspartame was first sought, that sloppy science was submitted. However, when investigations were taken further, it was found that while the original science was sloppy, if it had been done properly, the conclusions that aspartame is safe for human consumption would still have been supported. Aspartame is said to be one of the most studied food additives in human history. And whether or not the original applicant was dodgy, it's been far too widely used and studied since then for serious health issues to have remained unknown.
I understand that there's a certain "fight the power/man" aspect to aspartame, and have drunken very little of it even after changing my mind about it. But the evidence that its harmful just isn't there. And people have been looking for evidence of harm for decades now.”
“I did some research into this. It appears that when approval for aspartame was first sought, that sloppy science was submitted. However, when investigations were taken further, it was found that while the original science was sloppy, if it had been done properly, the conclusions that aspartame is safe for human consumption would still have been supported. Aspartame is said to be one of the most studied food additives in human history. And whether or not the original applicant was dodgy, it's been far too widely used and studied since then for serious health issues to have remained unknown.
I understand that there's a certain "fight the power/man" aspect to aspartame, and have drunken very little of it even after changing my mind about it. But the evidence that its harmful just isn't there. And people have been looking for evidence of harm for decades now.”
That's so true!
I am stuck with full fat everything, any artificial sweeteners turn my guts to liquid within 5 minutes of consuming it. The only thing I can get away with is chewing gum and only wriggleys extra, and only one piece.
the reaction is so quick I have to carry Imodium instants with me and always double check when eating out that my drinks aren't made with diet mixers or desserts don't have artificial sweeteners in them.
it's a nightmare but I know that I am not alone with this problem. My local uni wanted people to volunteer for a study on the effect of artificial sweeteners on more than one occasion. I have been tempted ( briefly) but changed my mind on the thought of not getting a placebo.
the reaction is so quick I have to carry Imodium instants with me and always double check when eating out that my drinks aren't made with diet mixers or desserts don't have artificial sweeteners in them.
it's a nightmare but I know that I am not alone with this problem. My local uni wanted people to volunteer for a study on the effect of artificial sweeteners on more than one occasion. I have been tempted ( briefly) but changed my mind on the thought of not getting a placebo.
It seems that not drinking too much is useful. My first drink of the day doesn't taste so bad. Repeated drinks start getting a bit sickening.
Progress is slow, but I'm getting more used to it. It seems a Sucralose/Acesulfame-K mix is the best sweetener for me, but it doesn't taste quite as good as I remember full sugar soft drinks tasting. I haven't dared try baking with artificial sweeteners though.
An interesting video on the sweetener Aspartame
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...artame_dangers
Consuming it is your choice, but for me I choose not to!
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...artame_dangers
Consuming it is your choice, but for me I choose not to!
I can taste artificial sweeteners immediately in anything - it is just a nasty chemical taste and sweet but with a hint of .............???
Just can't tolerate them at all
Just can't tolerate them at all
Originally Posted by c00kiemonster72:
“An interesting video on the sweetener Aspartame
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...artame_dangers
Consuming it is your choice, but for me I choose not to!”
“An interesting video on the sweetener Aspartame
http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...artame_dangers
Consuming it is your choice, but for me I choose not to!”
Do you have any robust scientific evidence that aspartame is dangerous? Because there is a lot of scientific evidence that it's safe.
This pattern has repeated a few times on this thread. Claims are made that aspartame is dangerous, someone asks for evidence, no evidence is forthcoming, then a bit later on the same claims are repeated.
I've tried to cut down altogether. If I want a treat like a Malibu or brandy and Coke I'll have the proper stuff. Rather have sugar than a load of artificial chemicals in me, plus it's a treat so may as well go for it properly 
Originally Posted by Osusana:
“I can taste artificial sweeteners immediately in anything - it is just a nasty chemical taste and sweet but with a hint of .............???
Just can't tolerate them at all”
“I can taste artificial sweeteners immediately in anything - it is just a nasty chemical taste and sweet but with a hint of .............???
Just can't tolerate them at all”
I'm the opposite now...can't tolerate sugar in my drinks! I have a sweetener in my coffee, for soft drinks I generally have squash but when I do have fizzy drinks its diet coke as I don't like the taste of normal coke and I found it left my teeth feeling furry
Originally Posted by WinterFire:
“Do you have any robust scientific evidence that aspartame is dangerous? Because there is a lot of scientific evidence that it's safe.
This pattern has repeated a few times on this thread. Claims are made that aspartame is dangerous, someone asks for evidence, no evidence is forthcoming, then a bit later on the same claims are repeated.”
“Do you have any robust scientific evidence that aspartame is dangerous? Because there is a lot of scientific evidence that it's safe.
This pattern has repeated a few times on this thread. Claims are made that aspartame is dangerous, someone asks for evidence, no evidence is forthcoming, then a bit later on the same claims are repeated.”
Exactly. The only links i've ever seen are to crackpot websites run by 'Doctors' in the U.S.
Originally Posted by goldenface:
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20943509
I'd steer clear just to be on the safe side.”
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20943509
I'd steer clear just to be on the safe side.”
The article itself says there are many reasons why this could be true, it would assume that all sections of society and types of people drink the same amount for a start.
Originally Posted by goldenface:
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20943509
I'd steer clear just to be on the safe side.”
“http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20943509
I'd steer clear just to be on the safe side.”
I had already read that article. It doesn't control for other factors potentially correllated with the consumption of diet drinks. E.g. obesity, diabetes, etc., which may affect the chance of experiencing depression.
What we get with artificial sweeteners is many 'might possibly cause harm but there's no hard evidence' claims. However being overweight is a known and very serious health risk. I think it's best to concentrate on the known serious health risks.
More evidence against artificial sweeteners.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.
Originally Posted by goldenface:
“More evidence against artificial sweeteners.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.”
“More evidence against artificial sweeteners.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.”
Can you summarise it for us? Goes on a bit.
Originally Posted by goldenface:
“More evidence against artificial sweeteners.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.”
“More evidence against artificial sweeteners.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/
The best advice is to just eat natural foods but eat in moderation.
There is no need to shove chemicals in your body in order to lose weight.”
No where in that article does it say artificial sweeteners are dangerous.
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