[Glowormfairy]

She is so rude! They were talking about the nurse who killed herself. Lowri reckons that the nursehas to take some blame herself because she left her children and 'what mother leaves her children to go and work'. So horrible as if the family don't have enough to feel bad about.

[Styles]

Shes speaking the truth, the nurse took the cowards way out and was selfish in regard to her family.

[Bushmills]

Troll alert.

[Richard1960]

Originally Posted by Styles

Shes speaking the truth, the nurse took the cowards way out and was selfish in regard to her family.

To be fair i think thats a bit harsh without knowing what went on behind the scenes fully.

[davey_wavey]

The nurse was clearly very ill, so was not in the right state of mind when she took her own life. People that commit suicide don't think about the people they leave behind - she was clearly very depressed. Uncalled for from Lowri Turner if that's what she said.

[Glowormfairy]

Originally Posted by Styles

Shes speaking the truth, the nurse took the cowards way out and was selfish in regard to her family.

Nasty thing to say. When someone commits suicide they are at the lowest they can be. Is not selfish just really sad.

[Richard1960]

Originally Posted by davey_wavey

The nurse was clearly very ill, so was not in the right state of mind when she took her own life. People that commit suicide don't think about the people they leave behind - she was clearly very depressed. Uncalled for from Lowri Turner if that's what she said.

Having suffered depression myself i agree,i just hope Lowri Turner never does as if she said what she did she just appears to be ignorant.

[vidalia]

Originally Posted by davey_wavey

The nurse was clearly very ill, so was not in the right state of mind when she took her own life. People that commit suicide don't think about the people they leave behind - she was clearly very depressed. Uncalled for from Lowri Turner if that's what she said.

That's not true, people that commit suicide or attempt it often do think about the people they leave behind and usually they think they will be much better off if they are not in their lives any more. It's like I am so bad or useless that I am a burden to you and you can live a much easier life if I'm not around to mess it up for you any more. Of course that's very rarely the case, if ever, but they are not exactly thinking rationally.

Why do people think that life, or death, is always so black and white, cut and dried and that they need to be so judgmental about people they really have no idea about?

[davey_wavey]

Originally Posted by vidalia

That's not true, people that commit suicide or attempt it often do think about the people they leave behind and usually they think they will be much better off if they are not in their lives any more. It's like I am so bad or useless that I am a burden to you and you can live a much easier life if I'm not around to mess it up for you any more. Of course that's very rarely the case, if ever, but they are not exactly thinking rationally.

Why do people think that life, or death, is always so black and white, cut and dried and that they need to be so judgmental about people they really have no idea about?

Sorry I didn't mean to come across as judgemental. That's not what my post was intended for.

[echorose]

Originally Posted by vidalia

That's not true, people that commit suicide or attempt it often do think about the people they leave behind and usually they think they will be much better off if they are not in their lives any more. It's like I am so bad or useless that I am a burden to you and you can live a much easier life if I'm not around to mess it up for you any more. Of course that's very rarely the case, if ever, but they are not exactly thinking rationally.

Why do people think that life, or death, is always so black and white, cut and dried and that they need to be so judgmental about people they really have no idea about?

Totally agree. That is exactly what went through my mind. I thought my husband and two babies would have been better off without me. You become detached as if watching from the outside and you see no way out other than ending it.

Luckily for me and my family I wasn't successful. Went on to have another child and they are all grown up now. Still have a lovely husband who stood by me and helped. The nurse must have felt so alone and trapped to do what she did.

[Richard1960]

Originally Posted by echorose

Totally agree. That is exactly what went through my mind. I thought my husband and two babies would have been better off without me. You become detached as if watching from the outside and you see no way out other than ending it.

Luckily for me and my family I wasn't successful. Went on to have another child and they are all grown up now. Still have a lovely husband who stood by me and helped. The nurse must have felt so alone and trapped to do what she did.

My expierience was different i had clincal depression and my mind was all over the place i could not think about the next hour let alone family.

All i could see was blackness and no light and was totally in a world of my own so its different for everybody i would say.

[woot_whoo]

Originally Posted by Glowormfairy

She is so rude! They were talking about the nurse who killed herself. Lowri reckons that the nursehas to take some blame herself because she left her children and 'what mother leaves her children to go and work'. So horrible as if the family don't have enough to feel bad about.

Wait a minute - did Turner claim that the nurse should take the blame because she committed suicide or because she chose to "leave her children to go and work"? The latter is completely unforgiveable and should rightly alienate every working mother in the country. IF that's what she said...

[Flannerz]

When I went to see The Wright Stuff Lowri Turner kept looking at me and I thought she fancied me. Turns out there was a monitor behind me and she was looking at that!

[Mozza111]

she was very good at the graffiti discussion today though

[Woodentop]

Her views are inappropriate at such a time. The views here on the nurse's previous health are unfounded and merely conjecture, as only those close knew how she was and rightly so are entitled to privacy.

Turner may feel justified in her view, but it's not something for debate at this raw emotional time and sympathy should be the only expression.

[CocaCola]

There is no way on this earth that this situation would have drove someone to suicide, the hospital itself said she faced no disciplinary action.

What is clear, is she clearly was mentally unstable and some would question whether she should have been employed as a nurse at all.

[earthling13]

At least Matthew shut her up pretty quickly. Pity he didn't do what he does with callers who overstep the mark though!

[MJ_Shamo]

It's been in Private Eye many times in the past that she is hugely hypocritical when it comes to matters such as parenting. I think the father of her children (who she is seperated from) has care of her kids rather than her - mostly so she can...work!

[JJ75]

Originally Posted by Styles

Shes speaking the truth, the nurse took the cowards way out and was selfish in regard to her family.

What a dick

[SecretLifeoBees]

Glad I didnt see it. She always comes across as the most vile person. I thought she had been ditched from the show as I can't remember the last time I saw her on it and she used to seem to be on nearly every week at one point.

Whatever her opinion on the matter of the nurse, there is a time and a place to air them and it isnt when the matter is still fresh and raw. There are more sensitive ways to put your opinion across too without being just plain offensive like Lowri Turner seems to thrive on being. Wasn't she even pretty insulting towards her own child for being mixed race a few years back?

[ganderpoke66]

What is the point of having guests reviewing the papers if they can't express an opinion or speculate on the stories ?

Turner only said what the rest of us are thinking, that it's obvious to anyone with Common Sense that this woman had a fragile mental disposition.

[Hound of Love]

Originally Posted by earthling13

At least Matthew shut her up pretty quickly. Pity he didn't do what he does with callers who overstep the mark though!

Screechy Woman should have a quiet word with Lowly Lowri

[Lizaj]

Originally Posted by CocaCola

There is no way on this earth that this situation would have drove someone to suicide, the hospital itself said she faced no disciplinary action.

What is clear, is she clearly was mentally unstable and some would question whether she should have been employed as a nurse at all.

That's a sweeping statement. no one knows when their world can be turned upside down. She appears to have been a perfectly capable nurse and nurses are no more super human than anyone else.
The hospital says they haven't disciplined anyone..not sure I can believe you wouldn't have recieved a right bo££ocking for getting caught on the hop like that. As a friend of mine in the NHS says you would have done in her hospital.
I can only speculate and think of emabrassed,bullying or exasperated bosses,unfriendly/unsympathetic colleagues and going back alone to nurses' quarters and the affect that might have on a sensitive person away from her family. And to Lowri I say some people have to move to get work and her children were not that young that they needed her everyday attention but where I do agree is that everyone should be able to put into perspective the hurt they cause when they take their life. However people who do so are in a dark place that most of us manage to struggle out of. And how dark must that have been for an RC to commit that sin? I do wonder if the sense of guilt and shame weighed heavy through cultural background.
Put into the mix of causes the way our sensationalist media handled the the prank call and you get some idea of the pressure on that poor woman.
And, you can say do we want nurses who are sensitive or do we want hard-hearted individuals with no sense of what is needed in a caring profession?

[Pizzatheaction]

Is Turner trying to revive her TV career, such as it was?

[Glowormfairy]

Originally Posted by woot_whoo

Wait a minute - did Turner claim that the nurse should take the blame because she committed suicide or because she chose to "leave her children to go and work"? The latter is completely unforgiveable and should rightly alienate every working mother in the country. IF that's what she said...

She said basically that the nurse should take some responsibility because she left her children to go and work away from them. That is why i found it so shocking. She was only trying to earn a living and should not be used against her.