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Old 25-03-2013, 13:56
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I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
Sounds like someone needs some musical botox.....
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Old 25-03-2013, 14:27
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Sean Paul? I thought he was dead?
The Catholic one is.

I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
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Old 25-03-2013, 14:31
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I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
All very, very true!
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Old 25-03-2013, 15:53
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don't see why people are coming down on kutox are they not allowed their opinion as well or are we only accepting i love sats comments?
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Old 25-03-2013, 16:04
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I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
Take a bow.
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Old 25-03-2013, 16:38
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omg I collapsed to the floor in a ball and cried hysterically when I heard them officially announced as #1!!
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Old 25-03-2013, 16:41
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I heard the Sean Paul version yesterday, I didn't know what all the fuss was about but my god, he did ruin it. The thing that I really hate it is the way he just 'raps' a line in a random place and ruins the flow of the song. It would be so much better if he just had one rap at the bridge and didn't interfer with the rest of the song.
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Old 25-03-2013, 17:15
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I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
One of the best posts I've ever read on the Music section here, where undieing reverence to manufactured pop stars seems to be the name of the game. Plus, I love a good rant. Take a bow.
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Old 25-03-2013, 17:23
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I'm not saying they are mediocre because I don't like them, I'm saying I don't like them because they are mediocre. Big difference. You suggest I think successful women are airheads, well that's ignorance. Have you never seen The Saturdays on tv chatshows? They always come across as dippy, superficial girls who just love the fact that they are on tv and in tabloids and magazines.

So they've all been singing for a long time. Big deal. Is that supposed to automatically mean they are talented musicians? There's thousands of people up and down the country who've been singing from an early age, you don't see all of them getting the same amount of attention. Besides, I wouldn't even care if they were the strongest singers in the world, it still wouldn't make their music any more memorable.

Also I fail to see how they are role models. How is being a member of a manufactured girlband something to aspire to? Aside from touring (which almost every musician on the planet does) all they do is countless 'interviews' in which they seem to have no idea what their own music is about and would rather talk about boyfriends and fame instead, and desperately plead for people to buy their songs in order to get their oh-so precious no.1 single, something which is purely down to popularity and has absolutely nothing to do with music these days. It's quite pathetic the way they have continuously been so shamelessly desperate for it - it would be nice if they focused on the actual music rather than a meaningless chart position.

Anyway, about the music, I know the 'it's all subjective' rhetoric and everything else, but I'm allowed as much as anyone to be objective, and for **** sake, LISTEN to their music - 99% of it is just boring, formulaic, sugar-coated pop fluff, with absolutely no edge or personality whatsoever. They can have as many chart hits as they like, and people can argue as much as they want otherwise, but the fact is that apart from the die-hard fans, of which I would question how many there are (how much did their last two albums sell?) no-one, even most pop fans, will be remembering their songs in years' time - I can barely remember any of them even now.

And it's not like I'm averse to pop music or girlbands either - Girls Aloud may have split up just recently, but they have had at least 7 or 8 bona fide brilliant pop songs which many people from all angles - pop fans, rock fans, even hard-nosed critics - have lauded and will continue to enjoy and view as pop classics for years to come. The same will never be said of The Saturdays, no matter how many singles they happen to get to the top of the charts.
They're. Just. A. Girl. Group.

They sing catchy, inoffensive, meaningless pop tunes aimed at the mainstream for top ten singles, tours, media coverage and money. Obviously. They're just doing what every other pop artist in the game is doing from Rita Ora to Beyonce to The Wanted to bloody Marina and the Diamonds.

I think they come across very well in every TV appearance, actually. Unlike Spice Girls and Girls Aloud and Sugababes, The Saturdays actually seem incredibly close and are like sisters. They have yet to give up on their career even when things are looking tough, and one of their members went on an arena tour heavily pregnant and still done the choreography for the songs. At the same time, one of their members is pregnant and even performed in America and promoted the new single. I know popstars have performed pregnant before, but it just shows how seriously they take their career. As for no one remembering their songs, will anyone remember anything Girls Aloud have done when their hype dies down? What about Little Mix? Hundreds of pop artists come and go with pop tunes every year. Just because The Saturdays won't change the face of music or have a massive worldwide #1 anthem doesn't mean they don't make good POP music, which is their job.
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Old 25-03-2013, 18:14
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kutox has clearly made his mind up but I question whether he has actually watched a Saturdays interview. They're never actually asked about anything other than their boyfriends. Is that a reflection upon the band or how the media treat and respond to successful women?

The Saturdays are no less involved in the writing and production of their music than Take That but Take That are seen as credible because Gary Barlow is 'a songwriter' and so they're asked about their music. The Saturdays have writing credits on their album but no one sees them as writers, so they're never asked about it.

One of the best posts I've ever read on the Music section here, where undieing reverence to manufactured pop stars seems to be the name of the game. Plus, I love a good rant. Take a bow.
You should watch this interview with Brian Higgins of Xenomania, he's written and produced for Girls Aloud, The Saturdays, Cher, Kylie, The Gossip, Sugababes etc. He talks about why using the term 'manufactured' to disparage artists who don't write their own music is ignorant: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ndwgm (31:45 in) FYI, The Saturdays have writing and production credits to their name. Una and Mollie have written for other artists, Una has even produced her own EP which she released when she was an unsigned singer/songwriter.
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Old 25-03-2013, 18:31
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Una and Mollie have written for other artists, Una has even produced her own EP which she released when she was an unsigned singer/songwriter.
Una's EP is called Sorry and it's available on iTunes. The songs on that EP are more acoustic/ballad type rather than pop. Anyone who thinks The Saturdays can't sing should watch some of their acoustic performances.
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Old 25-03-2013, 18:57
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Una also contributed the score of an independent film, it's called Christian Blake. Here's one of the songs she did for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhqa0RUjLAY
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Old 25-03-2013, 22:24
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Also Mollie has wrote a song for the new Backstreet Boys album.
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Old 26-03-2013, 01:41
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This song is absolutely terrible. Another nail in the coffin for real music.
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Old 26-03-2013, 11:33
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This song is absolutely terrible. Another nail in the coffin for real music.
Don't worry PJ and Duncan will see to this lol.
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Old 27-03-2013, 00:27
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I heard the Sean Paul version yesterday, I didn't know what all the fuss was about but my god, he did ruin it. The thing that I really hate it is the way he just 'raps' a line in a random place and ruins the flow of the song. It would be so much better if he just had one rap at the bridge and didn't interfer with the rest of the song.
Absolutely destroyed it. The Saturdays only version is far superior. I think it's a well deserved #1, completely infectious with a killer hook. Just a shame they sold out for the US market by getting Sean Paul on board, which hasn't really worked in their favour to be honest.
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Old 27-03-2013, 01:04
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Absolutely destroyed it. The Saturdays only version is far superior. I think it's a well deserved #1, completely infectious with a killer hook. Just a shame they sold out for the US market by getting Sean Paul on board, which hasn't really worked in their favour to be honest.
What's even funnier is that the Sean Paul version wasn't even the one they released or promoted in the States, it was the Sats only version, for the UK release they added Sean Paul I believe.
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Old 27-03-2013, 11:44
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Absolutely destroyed it. The Saturdays only version is far superior. I think it's a well deserved #1, completely infectious with a killer hook. Just a shame they sold out for the US market by getting Sean Paul on board, which hasn't really worked in their favour to be honest.
Id say they sold out well before Sean Paul. Flo Rida come to mind. The Saturday's version is not far superior the only difference is one has a reggae artist the other does not.

Not sure why people think he ruins the song when he makes it better. The song in its self with or without him its not their best songs and as some say maybe its to do with the accents they put on because its not their normal style.

Reason i like the SP version it gives the song the Island version they are going for.

This is the problem with Sat's fans mist are snobby they all say we want the girls to do well, but when they do something different they moan, why get this rapper why get that rapper.

Maybe they should get Beiber on all their tracks if people are going to moan all the time.
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Old 27-03-2013, 11:45
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What's even funnier is that the Sean Paul version wasn't even the one they released or promoted in the States, it was the Sats only version, for the UK release they added Sean Paul I believe.
Good point Adz and maybe had the released the Sp version in America im sure it would have got higher in the charts. Where as non SP version may have even sold more over here.
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Old 14-04-2013, 15:58
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Looking forward to seeing how it charts today. it's doing so well so far.


chart run: 1 - 3 - 4 - ??

sales:

week 1: 114k
week 2: 70k
week 3: 40k
week 4: ??

To Date Sales: 224,254
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Old 14-04-2013, 16:28
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Amazing that this song is doing so well, I'm wondering why it's playing out so different this time around.
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Old 14-04-2013, 17:10
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Amazing that this song is doing so well, I'm wondering why it's playing out so different this time around.
I think their TV show may have made the difference this time around. I like the song, but I feel The Sats have had MUCH better singles before this which didn't get to number 1. It's funny how a TV show can make a whole load of difference.
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Old 14-04-2013, 18:26
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Amazing that this song is doing so well, I'm wondering why it's playing out so different this time around.
I think they have a bigger profile than before, and I would also say they have a better profile than before - think alot more people are giving them respect for still having hits after 14 singles and 5 years.

I also think this has been much better promoted that previous singles. 30 Days, for example, had awful promotion. 1 or 2 interviews and that was about it. All Fired Up was well promoted until the week of release when they did 1 interview all week - Jonathan Ross show. Which is a big tv show but they lost the momentum they had a few weeks before the single was release.

Also I genuinely do think this is a good song. Alot of people say it's not their best, but I think it's one of their strongest and it's also a bit different to other songs out there at the minute.
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Old 14-04-2013, 18:31
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chart run: 1 - 3 - 4 - ??
number 8 this week. so chart run of 1 - 3 - 4 - 8

4 weeks inside the top 10. matching their previous record set by Issues.

also confirmed as 21st best selling single of the year so far. great for a song that's only been out 4 weeks
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Old 14-04-2013, 20:08
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Amazing that this song is doing so well, I'm wondering why it's playing out so different this time around.
I think the TV show had something to do with it. They must have gained new fans from it. I'd love it if they brought out a CD with all of their previous singles alongside the new album.
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