Rare Burgers

occy · 13-12-2012, 19:08

How do you like your Burgers cooked?

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8398336.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2271131.html

degsyhufc · 13-12-2012, 19:16

Depends on the quality and storage of the meat. Plus how much trust you have in the place you're getting your burger from.

For instance, you could see your burger being made from fresh chunks of beef, pattied up and put straight on the grill.

There would be next to zero chance of a problem that there could be with a supermarket burger made from cheap cuts, minced up a week ago and being on the shelf until you cook it.

boredof_lurking · 13-12-2012, 19:18

Like mine medium rare, gotta have a bit of blood on the plate to dunk my chips in!

occy · 13-12-2012, 19:32

Yuk...

Wallasey Saint · 13-12-2012, 19:43

Have to be well done, & that's even ones i make myself.

cloudymountain · 13-12-2012, 19:44

I like my steak tartare.

Victoria Sponge · 13-12-2012, 19:45

Burger I'd prefer medium. Steak medium rare.

Hieronymous · 13-12-2012, 19:47

Beware MRM!!

phylo_roadking · 13-12-2012, 19:47

You like your steak tortured??? Is that not illegal?

boredof_lurking · 13-12-2012, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudymountain

I like my steak tartare.

Oo I love steak tartare! Had it only once and it was absolutely delicious.

gavinfarrelly · 13-12-2012, 20:01

Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before.

That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger

trphil · 13-12-2012, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by cloudymountain

I like my steak tartare.

I love steak tartare, I remember once I ordered it on a skiing holiday in Austria, two minutes after ordering it the chef came out and explained to me that it was raw and did I still want it... I suppose he'd had some English people complain in the past...

degsyhufc · 13-12-2012, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavinfarrelly

Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before.

That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger

The point is that a steak is one cut of meat. The surface bacteria will be killed when it is cooked.

Burgers are minced. The surface bacteria can then be mixed throughout the burger. Cooking eat each side may not kill it.
That's why they are inspecting the practise.

Having freshly minced burgers straight onto the grill shouldn't be a problem.

whitecliffe · 13-12-2012, 20:20

I had a burger last night at a local restaurant/pub. Was so busy chatting didnt really look at what I was eating but was thinking wow this is really nice.

About half way through I looked down and noticed the burger was fairly raw in the middle. was tempted to finish it but thought better of it. It did taste really good though!

RegTheHedge · 13-12-2012, 20:41

Steak tartare is pretty safe in say Paris.

..but One really does n't want to know whats in some of London's burgers.

ninz39 · 13-12-2012, 20:44

Read toxin by robin cook, I promise you, you'll never eat al burger again let alone a rare one, scared me I tell you!!

Emmasmythe · 13-12-2012, 20:46

i hate pink meat, whats the point of cooking it at all then?

lemoncurd · 13-12-2012, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninz39

Read toxin by robin cook, I promise you, you'll never eat al burger again let alone a rare one, scared me I tell you!!

What does that little socialist gnome know about steak?

lemoncurd · 13-12-2012, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmasmythe

i hate pink meat, whats the point of cooking it at all then?

Charring the outside adds flavour, but cooking the meat takes away flavour. Hence why a steak should spend 30 seconds a side on the hottest plate possible.

Emmasmythe · 13-12-2012, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncurd

Charring the outside adds flavour, but cooking the meat takes away flavour. Hence why a steak should spend 30 seconds a side on the hottest plate possible.

And you like chewing the raw middle?

Personal preference I guess.

ninz39 · 13-12-2012, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncurd

What does that little socialist gnome know about steak?

Not him ...........another robin cook, American author although fiction, I think he's a doctor

roland rat · 13-12-2012, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavinfarrelly

Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before.

That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger

I love rare steaks, it the blood that runs out, and I lap this up with my chips

There even a steak callled a blue steak, each side is quickly fired till brown, and then served.....almost raw....yummmy

Bedlam_maid · 13-12-2012, 21:08

I like my steaks rare, but mince should always be well-cooked as it carries a higher risk of contamination.

roland rat · 13-12-2012, 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bedlam_maid

I like my steaks rare, but mince should always be well-cooked as it carries a higher risk of contamination.

I also like to eat raw mince...yummmmmmy...but lust a little bit of raw mince, usualy when cooking bolognaise with mince

UKMikey · 13-12-2012, 21:11

I used to scorch meat until all the taste was gone but if a place is posh enough to ask you how you want the burger done it's likely that it's safe to eat even at medium rare.

I had a lovely burger from Patty & Bun the other day which turned out to be m-r. Would imagine places like GBK would've gone out of business had they been poisoning some of their customers.

13-12-2012, 19:08	#1
occy Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sussex Posts: 25,536	Rare Burgers How do you like your Burgers cooked? http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8398336.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2271131.html

13-12-2012, 19:16	#2
degsyhufc Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 58,791	Depends on the quality and storage of the meat. Plus how much trust you have in the place you're getting your burger from. For instance, you could see your burger being made from fresh chunks of beef, pattied up and put straight on the grill. There would be next to zero chance of a problem that there could be with a supermarket burger made from cheap cuts, minced up a week ago and being on the shelf until you cook it.

13-12-2012, 19:18	#3
boredof_lurking Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,655	Like mine medium rare, gotta have a bit of blood on the plate to dunk my chips in!

13-12-2012, 19:32	#4
occy Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sussex Posts: 25,536	Yuk...

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Wallasey Saint Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Up the creak without a paddle Posts: 5,543	Have to be well done, & that's even ones i make myself.

13-12-2012, 19:44	#6
cloudymountain Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 4,684	I like my steak tartare.

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Victoria Sponge Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Garage, GoT, Brasil & steak Posts: 10,505	Burger I'd prefer medium. Steak medium rare.

13-12-2012, 19:47	#8
Hieronymous Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,645	Beware MRM!!

13-12-2012, 19:47	#9
phylo_roadking Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in yo' mamma Posts: 19,357	You like your steak tortured??? Is that not illegal?

13-12-2012, 19:48	#10
boredof_lurking Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,655	Quote: Originally Posted by cloudymountain I like my steak tartare. Oo I love steak tartare! Had it only once and it was absolutely delicious.

13-12-2012, 20:01	#11
gavinfarrelly Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,811	Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before. That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger

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trphil Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The City of Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 2,704	Quote: Originally Posted by cloudymountain I like my steak tartare. I love steak tartare, I remember once I ordered it on a skiing holiday in Austria, two minutes after ordering it the chef came out and explained to me that it was raw and did I still want it... I suppose he'd had some English people complain in the past...

13-12-2012, 20:04	#13
degsyhufc Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 58,791	Quote: Originally Posted by gavinfarrelly Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before. That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger The point is that a steak is one cut of meat. The surface bacteria will be killed when it is cooked. Burgers are minced. The surface bacteria can then be mixed throughout the burger. Cooking eat each side may not kill it. That's why they are inspecting the practise. Having freshly minced burgers straight onto the grill shouldn't be a problem.

13-12-2012, 20:20	#14
whitecliffe Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bored with Digital Spy Yawn Posts: 3,676	I had a burger last night at a local restaurant/pub. Was so busy chatting didnt really look at what I was eating but was thinking wow this is really nice. About half way through I looked down and noticed the burger was fairly raw in the middle. was tempted to finish it but thought better of it. It did taste really good though!

13-12-2012, 20:41	#15
RegTheHedge Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Docklands London -Marais Paris Posts: 2,683	Steak tartare is pretty safe in say Paris. ..but One really does n't want to know whats in some of London's burgers.

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ninz39 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: bognor regis Posts: 620	Read toxin by robin cook, I promise you, you'll never eat al burger again let alone a rare one, scared me I tell you!!

13-12-2012, 20:46	#17
Emmasmythe Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 483	i hate pink meat, whats the point of cooking it at all then?

13-12-2012, 20:53	#18
lemoncurd Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bristol Posts: 46,988	Quote: Originally Posted by ninz39 Read toxin by robin cook, I promise you, you'll never eat al burger again let alone a rare one, scared me I tell you!! What does that little socialist gnome know about steak?

13-12-2012, 20:55	#19
lemoncurd Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bristol Posts: 46,988	Quote: Originally Posted by Emmasmythe i hate pink meat, whats the point of cooking it at all then? Charring the outside adds flavour, but cooking the meat takes away flavour. Hence why a steak should spend 30 seconds a side on the hottest plate possible.

13-12-2012, 21:03	#20
Emmasmythe Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 483	Quote: Originally Posted by lemoncurd Charring the outside adds flavour, but cooking the meat takes away flavour. Hence why a steak should spend 30 seconds a side on the hottest plate possible. And you like chewing the raw middle? Personal preference I guess.

13-12-2012, 21:06	#21
ninz39 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: bognor regis Posts: 620	Quote: Originally Posted by lemoncurd What does that little socialist gnome know about steak? Not him ...........another robin cook, American author although fiction, I think he's a doctor

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13-12-2012, 21:07	#22
roland rat Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,657	Quote: Originally Posted by gavinfarrelly Ugh I have never even thought of having a burger rare before. That said, steak is MUCH better with a bit of blood. So I dont know why I am 'ugh'-ing at a bloody burger I love rare steaks, it the blood that runs out, and I lap this up with my chips There even a steak callled a blue steak, each side is quickly fired till brown, and then served.....almost raw....yummmy

13-12-2012, 21:08	#23
Bedlam_maid Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 3,082	I like my steaks rare, but mince should always be well-cooked as it carries a higher risk of contamination.

13-12-2012, 21:11	#24
roland rat Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,657	Quote: Originally Posted by Bedlam_maid I like my steaks rare, but mince should always be well-cooked as it carries a higher risk of contamination. I also like to eat raw mince...yummmmmmy...but lust a little bit of raw mince, usualy when cooking bolognaise with mince

13-12-2012, 21:11	#25
UKMikey Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Drayton, Greater London Posts: 27,611	I used to scorch meat until all the taste was gone but if a place is posh enough to ask you how you want the burger done it's likely that it's safe to eat even at medium rare. I had a lovely burger from Patty & Bun the other day which turned out to be m-r. Would imagine places like GBK would've gone out of business had they been poisoning some of their customers.