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In your opinion has Lord Sugar tended to pick the right winner?
I missed the first five series, so am no expert - but I think he mostly makes bad decisions, with a few obvious good ones occasionally. What do others think? Do you think he usually picks the best candidates or is a blahdy idiot who constantly makes barmy decisions because he is a mental old goat? You decide!
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There is actually another thread for this (this thread marked my DS debut!)
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...216&highlight= Enjoy! |
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I've only watched the last two series of adult apprentice all the way through as well as last year's YA. I think Tom the inventor was a good choice given the new 'invest in a business' scheme, even though he wasn't consistently great on tasks. Ricky was also deserving.
I didn't like Zara that much last year on YA and thought Harry H should have won, but the ridiculous system they used meant that he was out the running for the final.
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I think he has generally picked reasonably good candidates every time, though very rarely has he picked the "standout" contestant from the show. I think we need to remember that the strongest candidate throughout the series isn't neccessarily going to be the right choice for the prize.
Back in the "win a job" days, it was never really specified what exactly the job was, so whilst the winner might not have appeared to be the best overall candidate, they might have been better suited to the job than them. I think the best example of this might be Ruth and Michelle, where Ruth was far more TV friendly and flashy, but was going to be highly unsuitable for the job that Michelle took. I guess for that reason, I suppose we have to say that he has picked the right person everytime, at least at the time of the show. I think the winner's poor track record with him after the show suggests he didn't always get it right, but I think at the time of the show, they were usually the right choices for him, albeit not always the best result from a TV narrative. I think the change of prize has made an even bigger disconnect from what we see on the series and what decision to make. In terms of getting an investment, Tom was by a mile the logical way to go, but from a TV point of view, he was vastly inferior to Helen in every way. |
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I think he's done pretty well.
Okay so I've certainly had favourites who I would preferred to have won, but they are competing for a job or to go into business with Lord Sugar, and not with me. And I think Sugar first agreed to take part in the show only if he had the final say in who was fired/hired. Personally I was most surprised at Michelle winning and not Ruth, but I can't say that Ruth would have been better in the long-run. Sugar may have regretted it afterwards but he must have chose her for a reason, and Ruth has said that Michelle deserved to win since then so she's alright with it I guess. I think Sugar is generally happy with his choices, apart from a couple which he has mentioned. But everyone is allowed to make a few mistakes or else they wouldn't be human, they would be a robot. |
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Back in the "win a job" days, it was never really specified what exactly the job was, so whilst the winner might not have appeared to be the best overall candidate, they might have been better suited to the job than them. I think the best example of this might be Ruth and Michelle, where Ruth was far more TV friendly and flashy, but was going to be highly unsuitable for the job that Michelle took.
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Personally I was most surprised at Michelle winning and not Ruth, but I can't say that Ruth would have been better in the long-run. Sugar may have regretted it afterwards but he must have chose her for a reason, and Ruth has said that Michelle deserved to win since then so she's alright with it I guess.
I think the best example of someone who was not so good on the tasks but was better suited for the job was Simon. By all rights, he should have been fired on the shopping channel task (although in all fairness that was the only task he did badly in), but I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that he stayed with Sugar for longer than the winners generally do, so maybe Sugar did know what he was doing. |
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Michelle was a terrible winner, and one that Sugar later regretted. She only stayed a few months, and then left. Maybe Ruth wasn't right for Sugar either, but then there were other people who could have won that series - like Ansell for example, he would have been a great winner.
I think the best example of someone who was not so good on the tasks but was better suited for the job was Simon. By all rights, he should have been fired on the shopping channel task (although in all fairness that was the only task he did badly in), but I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that he stayed with Sugar for longer than the winners generally do, so maybe Sugar did know what he was doing. I think Sugar said he expected the winners to remain in the company at least 2 years, and I remember Simon lasting a long time. Infact I think he only left a couple of years ago. |
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I missed the first five series, so am no expert - but I think he mostly makes bad decisions, with a few obvious good ones occasionally. What do others think? Do you think he usually picks the best candidates or is a blahdy idiot who constantly makes barmy decisions because he is a mental old goat? You decide!
He's probably picked the right person for the job more often than not. That means picking someone who looks right, and has those skills. it sometimes means not taking the smartest candidates who would be bored and soon leave. In recent series he's always taken the most viable project on offer at the end, and avoided the non ideas and risky adventures. He probably got Tom over Susan wrong, but he really wnated Tom from looking at their CVs - which somewhat defeated the point of the show. |
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I think he's done pretty well.
Okay so I've certainly had favourites who I would preferred to have won, but they are competing for a job or to go into business with Lord Sugar, and not with me. And I think Sugar first agreed to take part in the show only if he had the final say in who was fired/hired. Personally I was most surprised at Michelle winning and not Ruth, but I can't say that Ruth would have been better in the long-run. Sugar may have regretted it afterwards but he must have chose her for a reason, and Ruth has said that Michelle deserved to win since then so she's alright with it I guess. I think Sugar is generally happy with his choices, apart from a couple which he has mentioned. But everyone is allowed to make a few mistakes or else they wouldn't be human, they would be a robot. |
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Michelle was as able as Ruth and her show record was similar.Ruth sold more, by badgering more. Michelle fiited the job he had in mind far better and actually had done something similar. Ruth wasn't in the same area of business and probably wouldn't have gone down with the target audience. The idea was an impractical one - which Michelle found out early on. That and her personal issues intervening, hardly make her a failure - no one can make an impossible idea possible.
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Maybe neither Michelle nor Ruth was right for it then. What about the other more able people in that series, like Ansell, Paul and Sharon?
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It was a dud idea. Something about recycling computers into useable parts. The gains couldn't cover the costs. The scrap had too little value and the costs of getting at it outweighed the value. I wouldn't send my old computer off to be recycled either - who knows who gets your hard drive if there's not strict security on it. Thats why no one has done it. Michelle had worked in the IT technology field and negotiated contracts overseas where the project was probably heading.
http://www.earthtechling.com/2010/01...llion-by-2014/ Which would suggest your comments about dud ideas and poor gains are well off the mark. Out of interest, how do you dispose of computers in a way which is 100% secure? Take the hard disk to a foundry so you can watch it being melted down? |
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The "eWaste" recycling industry is forecast to be $14.7 billion by the end of 2014 worldwide:
http://www.earthtechling.com/2010/01...llion-by-2014/ Which would suggest your comments about dud ideas and poor gains are well off the mark. Out of interest, how do you dispose of computers in a way which is 100% secure? Take the hard disk to a foundry so you can watch it being melted down? |
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And I think Sugar first agreed to take part in the show only if he had the final say in who was fired/hired.