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Old 18-01-2013, 15:53
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As previously mentioned, it seems the best music was used as the intro and outro most annoyingly. The Odyssey track is the best on this edition by a mile. After this hit, strangely they waited until Summer 1980 for the next hit, a No1!

Whoever the heck Long Tall Ernie & The Shakers were, the only question crossing my mind as I watched them was which pub near to TV Centre they had dragged them out of and into the studio that day? I immediately noticed the Chris Ecclestone likeness too. Never in a million years should they have been on TOTP with such patent amateur rubbish. Couldn't even mime, my God.

I think David Soul was pushing his luck by now. He should have just kept it at 3 singles, then his chart career would look quite impressive, with a 1-2-1. Nice set Legs & Co had to prance around this week.

The Baby's, it was a few moments before it clicked that I was looking at John "Missin You" Waite. Know nothing of the group, but quite enjoyed the record, enough to give it a second listen. Red trousers too! All the rage at the moment, and I got a pair just like that for Xmas.

Wogan just knew he was taking the P, if he was taking himself seriously then I would have been more worried. How he manages to look essentially exactly the same today as back then is lucky on him. No Wigon there I think!

Tonight's lead singer immediately reminded me of Roger Daltrey and The Who in his performance. The song was nothing though.

After Figaro I think we can say goodbye to Brotherhood Of Man as a major singles success group, bar some minor hit later in '78, which I've no idea what it goes like.

Just before Peter Powell introduced the No1 by Wings I suddenly did a double take, and a triple take, as the unexpected features of Bruno Brookes stared almost menacingly into my TV screen from the right! He was planning his future TOTP and Top 40 domination right there and then! I wonder if he knew Powell even at that point, and that is how he got on the show. After all, didn't Powell become his manager/agent later on?

It was an odd TOTP this 5th January edition. All over the place. For the first time it is almost possible to say that this weeks Top 10 might just be better than back then? After all, nothing of the David Bowie calibre was on tonight was it!


Creepy when you realise that both had a relationship with Anthea Turner, Powell was married to her. He was her manager too.....Powell was a very cool DJ, Bruno Brookes a small man with a really nasty streak.
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Old 18-01-2013, 15:55
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Bruno Brookes a small man with a really nasty streak.
What makes you say that?
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Old 18-01-2013, 16:16
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What makes you say that?
I'm not the OP you're asking but one or possibly more of his ex girlfriends (including Anthea I think) said he was violent towards them.
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Old 18-01-2013, 18:36
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Am I the only one who couldn't stand Althea and Donna 's Uptown Top Ranking?
No!!!
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:04
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Don't you just love the way we are both talking about the song, without actually mentioning the one we are talking about!

I think I've got Spoileritis.
I find it bizarre, it's one thing not doing spoilers about future episodes. It's quite another not even wanting to refer to the titles of singles, Part of the joy of all these old episodes beiing broadcast is remembering the great songs that were in the chart and talking about them with anticipation. The charts of the past aren't a secret, they're a matter of public record. Just about everyone who's interested knows what was number one in 1978. It's no secret.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:17
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I find it bizarre, it's one thing not doing spoilers about future episodes. It's quite another not even wanting to refer to the titles of singles, Part of the joy of all these old episodes beiing broadcast is remembering the great songs that were in the chart and talking about them with anticipation. The charts of the past aren't a secret, they're a matter of public record. Just about everyone who's interested knows what was number one in 1978. It's no secret.
I agree. The only thing that needs spoliers is when discussing future episode line-ups. And even then it's not necessary if the episode is more than a few weeks away as by the time the episode is broadcast the thread will have moved on by several pages.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:24
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Incidentally, if anyone wants to check out the weekly top 40 singles from 1978 then the charts are available at the Official Charts Company website

http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-chart/_/1/1978/

In January 1978 only the top 30 was broadcast by the BBC. On May 9, 1978 Radio 1 extended its chart countdown on a Tuesday to a top 40 though the Sunday chart recap continued to be a top 20 until November 1978 and Top Of The Pops continued to show just the top 30 for a few more years.

The chart shown on the Top Of The Pops edition shown yesterday can be found at

http://www.officialcharts.com/archiv.../1/1978-01-07/

It's just a top 30 rather than a top 40 as only a top 30 was compiled in what was the first chart after the Christmas and New Year holidays.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:33
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I agree. The only thing that needs spoliers is when discussing future episode line-ups. And even then it's not necessary if the episode is more than a few weeks away as by the time the episode is broadcast the thread will have moved on by several pages.
Yes. As one of the ones requesting spoilers, I was only referring to the line up of shows.

Discussion of charts, number ones and such is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 18-01-2013, 19:58
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Incidentally, if anyone wants to check out the weekly top 40 singles from 1978 then the charts are available at the Official Charts Company website

http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-chart/_/1/1978/

In January 1978 only the top 30 was broadcast by the BBC. On May 9, 1978 Radio 1 extended its chart countdown on a Tuesday to a top 40 though the Sunday chart recap continued to be a top 20 until November 1978 and Top Of The Pops continued to show just the top 30 for a few more years.

The chart shown on the Top Of The Pops edition shown yesterday can be found at

http://www.officialcharts.com/archiv.../1/1978-01-07/

It's just a top 30 rather than a top 40 as only a top 30 was compiled in what was the first chart after the Christmas and New Year holidays.
Thanks for those links.

I have to say I find it really frustrating that the OCC shut down that brilliant Chartstats website only to replace it with something [1] inferior as following a single's chart progress is much more complex and time-consuming and [2] incomplete, given that only the Top 40 is listed.

Not good enough!
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:43
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Just caught up with last night's episode - not exactly an auspicious start to 1978. Seemed barely distinguishable from a 1976 episode.

That awful 50's rock medley - Stars on 45 three years too early. David Soul's weakest effort yet. The Babys - deservedly forgotten, although singer John Waite had a lone solo hit six years later. Terry Wogan - surely a contender for the genuinely worst record of all time? The Drummer Man song - a bunch of pub-rock chancers trying to hang onto the coat-tails of New Wave? Brotherhood of Man's worst record so far.

At least Peter Powell seemed to enjoy it...
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:54
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That had the one where he did the video where he was dressing like a number of other pop stars, didn't it?
Love that video, he dresses up as the genius that is Ron Mael of Sparks keyboard fame. Quite something to have one of the fab four acting you! McCartney takes a lot of flak, for his miserly reputation and his licking up to royalty but he wrote some fantastic songs. I too think the Frog Chorus is a wonderful tune. Mull of Kintyre may be starting to grate now (I think it goes on for a couple of choruses too many) but I wish I had written it.
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:57
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Did anyone else notice the young lad with glasses make the hand gesture during Eddie and the Hotrods
My sister spotted that, we rewound the recordeing to confirm it. Cheeky beggar ended up beside Peter Powell at the end of the show too!!
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Old 18-01-2013, 20:59
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The thing about these old shows is how a song, even one you don`t recognise or particularly like at the start, can grow on you after a couple of plays. Joy Sarney anyone? I know I will start humming even the worst ones.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:13
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(23) BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS Jamming (video)
Bouncing Bob Marley - good one
Bob must have been listening to The Police (his voice bears an uncanny similarity to Sting's )
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:51
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Thanks for those links.

I have to say I find it really frustrating that the OCC shut down that brilliant Chartstats website only to replace it with something [1] inferior as following a single's chart progress is much more complex and time-consuming and [2] incomplete, given that only the Top 40 is listed.

Not good enough!
I'll second that Servalan. I still miss it, and wonder why it took so long for it to suddenly become an issue for the OCC. After all, it had been around since 2004 and had almost been totally completed, and therein lies the reason they moved in for the kill.

Regards spoilers, message understood. I've no dis-agreement with anything TUC said so far regards the issue. I've hardly ever used them myself anyway.

Yet again last nights TOTP disproved the still perpetrated myth that was trotted out yet again in the recent documentary of 1978 by Eric Hall that appearances sent sales spiralling. Really? The evidence of last night contradicts this regards a few of the acts.

I agree with your post Azzurri, as last night I just could not stop humming Figaro! Not good.
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Old 18-01-2013, 21:56
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Incidentally, if anyone wants to check out the weekly top 40 singles from 1978 then the charts are available at the Official Charts Company website

http://www.officialcharts.com/archive-chart/_/1/1978/

In January 1978 only the top 30 was broadcast by the BBC. On May 9, 1978 Radio 1 extended its chart countdown on a Tuesday to a top 40 though the Sunday chart recap continued to be a top 20 until November 1978 and Top Of The Pops continued to show just the top 30 for a few more years.

The chart shown on the Top Of The Pops edition shown yesterday can be found at

http://www.officialcharts.com/archiv.../1/1978-01-07/

It's just a top 30 rather than a top 40 as only a top 30 was compiled in what was the first chart after the Christmas and New Year holidays.
This of course was probably due to the fact that on that same date the official UK singles chart became a Top 75 for the first time, regards your BIB.

Incidentally, I recall you mentioning the singles sales of the first week in 2012 being a record in the w/e 7th January, so do you have any idea yet how they have done in that same week this year out of interest?
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:01
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Just caught up with last night's episode - not exactly an auspicious start to 1978. Seemed barely distinguishable from a 1976 episode.

That awful 50's rock medley - Stars on 45 three years too early. David Soul's weakest effort yet. The Babys - deservedly forgotten, although singer John Waite had a lone solo hit six years later. Terry Wogan - surely a contender for the genuinely worst record of all time? The Drummer Man song - a bunch of pub-rock chancers trying to hang onto the coat-tails of New Wave? Brotherhood of Man's worst record so far.

At least Peter Powell seemed to enjoy it...
I actually found Peter Powell's over enthusiastic presenting style somewhat off putting. He seemed to be hyperactive last night.

As for the music, the beginning of 1978 wasn't the best. There were some good songs around but there was also a lot of dross too. Fortunately from about mid February onwards there is a massive improvement in the quality of the charts and, by extension, Top Of The Pops.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:04
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At least Peter Powell seemed to enjoy it...
I suspect that Peter Powell, and the others were forbidden from being anything other than enthusiastic about even the worst drivel appearing week in week out on TOTP.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:08
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This of course was probably due to the fact that on that same date the official UK singles chart became a Top 75 for the first time, regards your BIB.

Incidentally, I recall you mentioning the singles sales of the first week in 2012 being a record in the w/e 7th January, so do you have any idea yet how they have done in that same week this year out of interest?
The chart dated 06/01/13 was another record breaking one. Here's part of Alan Jones' Music Week chart analysis for this chart:

With punters redeeming gift cards and acquiring digital downloads to secure musical content for mobile devices received as Christmas presents, singles sales reached an all-time high last week.

Climbing 49.37% week-on-week to 5,696,413, they surpassed by 4.49% the previous high of 5,451,493 set exactly a year earlier. A year ago, new records were set for sales of every record from number seven to number 200 inclusive; last week saw new highs for 77 chart positions: 5-13, 17-40, 76-78, 92-94, 98, 99, 104-115, 125, 127-129, 142-149 and 189-200.

Additionally, sales of 3,246 copies for number 163 (Beautiful Cause You Love Me by Girls Aloud) were identical to those recorded by Rihanna's Talk That Talk (Feat. Jay-Z) when it set the record for its chart position a year ago.

The number 200 song this week - Midnight City by M83 - sold 2,634 copies, which would have sufficed for it to be number 23 in the first week of 2005.

For singles sales last week to surpass those of the same week in 2011 was a considerable achievement, as both 23rd and 24th December fell in its span, whereas last year the week started on 25th December, which meant there was a whole week of post-Christmas gift card redemptions to give it a boost. Showing the strength of the market in depth, a record 535 tracks sold 1,000 copies or more last week, and even the 2000th biggest seller (Too Many Men by Boy Better Know, since you ask) sold 301 copies.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:12
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I actually found Peter Powell's over enthusiastic presenting style somewhat off putting. He seemed to be hyperactive last night.

As for the music, the beginning of 1978 wasn't the best. There were some good songs around but there was also a lot of dross too. Fortunately from about mid February onwards there is a massive improvement in the quality of the charts and, by extension, Top Of The Pops.
But you still have to wonder why the hell they were prepared to showcase such total amateurish garbage as Long Tall Ernie & The Shakers, and Tonight, amongst quite a few from previous editions, when these acts were not "Top" of anyone's "Pops" and were never going to be. The show could only show what was mostly in the singles charts, and could only be as good as that, but still they ignored good charted singles and placed trash in the studio. The truth of this is likely that they had a quota of people to have in the studio, come what may, and could never have had an entire edition of promo films or previous recordings or just Legs & Co. Might have been better if they had though.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:16
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The chart dated 06/01/13 was another record breaking one. Here's part of Alan Jones' Music Week chart analysis for this chart:

With punters redeeming gift cards and acquiring digital downloads to secure musical content for mobile devices received as Christmas presents, singles sales reached an all-time high last week.

Climbing 49.37% week-on-week to 5,696,413, they surpassed by 4.49% the previous high of 5,451,493 set exactly a year earlier. A year ago, new records were set for sales of every record from number seven to number 200 inclusive; last week saw new highs for 77 chart positions: 5-13, 17-40, 76-78, 92-94, 98, 99, 104-115, 125, 127-129, 142-149 and 189-200.

Additionally, sales of 3,246 copies for number 163 (Beautiful Cause You Love Me by Girls Aloud) were identical to those recorded by Rihanna's Talk That Talk (Feat. Jay-Z) when it set the record for its chart position a year ago.

The number 200 song this week - Midnight City by M83 - sold 2,634 copies, which would have sufficed for it to be number 23 in the first week of 2005.

For singles sales last week to surpass those of the same week in 2011 was a considerable achievement, as both 23rd and 24th December fell in its span, whereas last year the week started on 25th December, which meant there was a whole week of post-Christmas gift card redemptions to give it a boost. Showing the strength of the market in depth, a record 535 tracks sold 1,000 copies or more last week, and even the 2000th biggest seller (Too Many Men by Boy Better Know, since you ask) sold 301 copies.
Wow! That is fascinating Robbie, thanks for that quick and detailed reply! Any idea what Bowie at No6 sold last week? I've been wondering, and guessing about 60,000 maybe?
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:16
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I'm not the OP you're asking but one or possibly more of his ex girlfriends (including Anthea I think) said he was violent towards them.
Also it showed when he did the weekend breakfast show on Radio One with Liz Kershaw. He constantly put her down and is clearly not found of women..
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:16
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I find it bizarre, it's one thing not doing spoilers about future episodes. It's quite another not even wanting to refer to the titles of singles, Part of the joy of all these old episodes beiing broadcast is remembering the great songs that were in the chart and talking about them with anticipation. The charts of the past aren't a secret, they're a matter of public record. Just about everyone who's interested knows what was number one in 1978. It's no secret.
I agree. The shows are 35 years old, whether you watched them back then or not history can't be rewritten.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:17
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Also it showed when he did the weekend breakfast show on Radio One with Liz Kershaw. He constantly put her down and is clearly not found of women..
Yup. Liz Kershaw apparently hated him but was professional throughout.
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Old 18-01-2013, 22:20
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The thing is I liked Brotherhood of Man in 1978 but I was five years old, now I think they look so funny, trying to be Abba..
I also loved Shawdoody Woody then too and I remember the band named The Darts too.
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