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CS: Kirsty's character has been ruined.
Imonfire
17-12-2012
Why go through the effort of introducing Kirsty's parents, creating a little back-story of her abusive Dad, the so-called anger management/Counselling that She never went to, but was supposed to re-arrange. Just to have her as a complete and utter psycho and removing her from the career girl/Police Officer to have her settle for slaving away in the factory.

It's a great shame, as Kirsty and Tyrone work as a couple, Natalie Gumede is one of the best actresses on the show and the character of Kirsty had a lot of potential, rather than a one-dimensional villain used purely for sensationalism.
jules1000
17-12-2012
The fact is Kirsty was a nasty piece of work from the off and her uniform allowed her to disguise and get away with things. Working at the factory has given her character much more screen time and shown the deeper less pleasant side to her nature. I think Corrie has done a good job with Kirsty's character. Yes she is a fab actress.
Hound of Love
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“The fact is Kirsty was a nasty piece of work from the off and her uniform allowed her to disguise and get away with things. Working at the factory has given her character much more screen time and shown the deeper less pleasant side to her nature. I think Corrie has done a good job with Kirsty's character. Yes she is a fab actress.”

Agreed. Said it before in another thread, but I think that Kirsty's dad will be involved in her eventual exit storyline (I give it six months or so)
MsWilder11
17-12-2012
As long as Kirsty was showing genuine remorse then there seemed to be hope for her, but when she really lashed out and didn't even show a hint of sympathy then it was a different story. Tyrone saying that he didn't love her anymore kind of sealed her fate imo. If he doesn't care anymore then why should the viewers?

Now I get the feeling that they've turned the Kirsty/Tyrone SL into a plot device for a Tyrone/Fiz pairing, and I'm not liking it. Corrie did the same thing when they used Carla's rape SL to set up her affair with Peter. Kirsty is seen as the irredeemable big bad and now the focus is shifting from the abuse to the Fiz/Tyrone relationship, which really didn't need to be thrown into the mix.
jules1000
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“As long as Kirsty was showing genuine remorse then there seemed to be hope for her, but when she really lashed out and didn't even show a hint of sympathy then it was a different story. Tyrone saying that he didn't love her anymore kind of sealed her fate imo. If he doesn't care anymore then why should the viewers?

Now I get the feeling that they've turned the Kirsty/Tyrone SL into a plot device for a Tyrone/Fiz pairing, and I'm not liking it. Corrie did the same thing when they used Carla's rape SL to set up her affair with Peter. Kirsty is seen as the irredeemable big bad and now the focus is shifting from the abuse to the Fiz/Tyrone relationship, which really didn't need to be thrown into the mix.”

Yes it seems Fizz is taking advantage of the situation now...which is spoiling the storyline.
Oldnjaded
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“As long as Kirsty was showing genuine remorse then there seemed to be hope for her, but when she really lashed out and didn't even show a hint of sympathy then it was a different story. Tyrone saying that he didn't love her anymore kind of sealed her fate imo. If he doesn't care anymore then why should the viewers?

Now I get the feeling that they've turned the Kirsty/Tyrone SL into a plot device for a Tyrone/Fiz pairing, and I'm not liking it. Corrie did the same thing when they used Carla's rape SL to set up her affair with Peter. Kirsty is seen as the irredeemable big bad and now the focus is shifting from the abuse to the Fiz/Tyrone relationship, which really didn't need to be thrown into the mix.”

Yes, all true and a great pity. And whilst up to now, Alan Halsall has done a brilliant job of showing the gradual loss of confidence, feeling of isolation and sheer fear due to Krazy, I don't think he'd be brave (or stupid) enough to start sneaking around with Fiz already. In real life, whether Krazy was supposedly out or not, he would living in fear of her coming back unexpectedly and catching him out.

The writers should have stuck to the (rather daft) plan of having him marry Krazy, getting his name on the birth certificate and then dumping her. At that point he could have got with Fiz.
Rip the TV Eye
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“Agreed. Said it before in another thread, but I think that Kirsty's dad will be involved in her eventual exit storyline (I give it six months or so)”

It would be great if Kirsty takes an axe to his head and gets locked up, sending her off and Ruby staying with Tyrone. Not that I want to see Kirsty go, but this is the only happy ending I can see.
Imonfire
17-12-2012
I don't understand why we can't have a normal couple on the show, why does there have to be something sinister lurking all the time.

Why couldn't they delve in to Kirsty's back story more, have Kirsty and Tyrone stand up to Kirsty's Dad, have her Mum move in and look after the baby whilst Kirsty and Tyrone go to work, see Kirsty having counsilling and anger management sessions and work throught their problems, have Tommy help her if need be, like She helped him and then for Tyrone and Kirsty to get married for real later on.

All that doesn't seem farfetched, it would be real and would offer a lot more to the public than what we actually have.
Rip the TV Eye
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by Imonfire:
“I don't understand why we can't have a normal couple on the show, why does there have to be something sinister lurking all the time.

Why couldn't they delve in to Kirsty's back story more, have Kirsty and Tyrone stand up to Kirsty's Dad, have her Mum move in and look after the baby whilst Kirsty and Tyrone go to work, see Kirsty having counsilling and anger management sessions and work throught their problems, have Tommy help her if need be, like She helped him and then for Tyrone and Kirsty to get married for real later on.

All that doesn't seem farfetched, it would be real and would offer a lot more to the public than what we actually have.”

Agreed.
Creamtea
17-12-2012
Originally Posted by Imonfire:
“I don't understand why we can't have a normal couple on the show, why does there have to be something sinister lurking all the time.

Why couldn't they delve in to Kirsty's back story more, have Kirsty and Tyrone stand up to Kirsty's Dad, have her Mum move in and look after the baby whilst Kirsty and Tyrone go to work, see Kirsty having counsilling and anger management sessions and work throught their problems, have Tommy help her if need be, like She helped him and then for Tyrone and Kirsty to get married for real later on.

All that doesn't seem farfetched, it would be real and would offer a lot more to the public than what we actually have.”

Well said! I completely agree.
EmmerStreetFan
18-12-2012
I'm really not surprised about the whole Fiz/Tyrone relationship. A lot of mean cheat on their partner after constantly being accused of it. It's just a fact.

Is Kirsty a waste of a character at this point, possibly. It would be nice to get into the psyche of someone with these kind of issues. But with it being the first soap that has dealt with a female abuser I guess there is only so much you can do. Although I will say there are plenty of times I've wished that Kirsty wasn't abusing Tyrone and cutting him off from his friends because they do make a wonderful couple when things are going great.
Hound of Love
18-12-2012
Originally Posted by EmmerStreetFan:
“I'm really not surprised about the whole Fiz/Tyrone relationship. A lot of mean cheat on their partner after constantly being accused of it. It's just a fact.

Is Kirsty a waste of a character at this point, possibly. It would be nice to get into the psyche of someone with these kind of issues. But with it being the first soap that has dealt with a female abuser I guess there is only so much you can do. Although I will say there are plenty of times I've wished that Kirsty wasn't abusing Tyrone and cutting him off from his friends because they do make a wonderful couple when things are going great.”

Hollyoaks did it before (Mandy beating Tony) and Doctors (Dr Heston was beaten by his girlfriend)
EmmerStreetFan
18-12-2012
Originally Posted by Hound of Love:
“Hollyoaks did it before (Mandy beating Tony) and Doctors (Dr Heston was beaten by his girlfriend)”

My mistake I live in Canada so, I did not realize.

Well then... there goes my justifying it. Yeah... they should just do this story better.
trevon1
18-12-2012
Originally Posted by EmmerStreetFan:
“My mistake I live in Canada so, I did not realize.

Well then... there goes my justifying it. Yeah... they should just do this story better.”

I didn't see how the storyline was done on Hollyoaks. On Doctors, the acting of the storyline was good, but it didn't make sense Heston stayed so long considering there was no baby and they weren't married. However, they didn't drag the storyline on for too long.
leewallace18
18-12-2012
I don't want Kirsty to leave, I wish she could see the error of her ways, get it sorted without the residents finding out the truth!
Southerner
18-12-2012
Originally Posted by Imonfire:
“I don't understand why we can't have a normal couple on the show, why does there have to be something sinister lurking all the time.

Why couldn't they delve in to Kirsty's back story more, have Kirsty and Tyrone stand up to Kirsty's Dad, have her Mum move in and look after the baby whilst Kirsty and Tyrone go to work, see Kirsty having counsilling and anger management sessions and work throught their problems, have Tommy help her if need be, like She helped him and then for Tyrone and Kirsty to get married for real later on.

All that doesn't seem farfetched, it would be real and would offer a lot more to the public than what we actually have.”

The above you've described would happen in reality but this is a soap, viewers would otherwise get bored and switch off!

Kirsty & Tyrone would get stale quickly once Kirsty has redeemed her ways. Kevin & Sally were once the dull but happy married couple until the TPTB decided to spice things up for Kevin to have an affair with Natalie in the late '90s.

Soaps tend to go to the extremes to get ratings, that's what matters to ITV the most so expect Kirsty to go even more barmy and bow out in Mad Maya style.

I predict Tyrone killing her in self defence...
mo mouse
18-12-2012
Kirsty mustn't leave. There would be no one to inflict pain on Tyrone and that would be unacceptable.
Swinetown
18-12-2012
Originally Posted by mo mouse:
“Kirsty mustn't leave. There would be no one to inflict pain on Tyrone and that would be unacceptable.”

Fiz can do that with her whinging.
NathanJohnson
18-12-2012
I hope Kirsty's dad comes back and murders her.
big dan
19-12-2012
I am disappointed that they've managed to shoehorn yet another affair plot in here. Imo there was more mileage in exploring Kirsty's past and her relationship with Tyrone yet. I just feel the whole domestic violence plot has just lost all relevance now that Tyrone is completely out of love with her, and it's all once again becoming very sensationalist plot-dominated. The climax will definitely be worth watching I'm sure, but still.
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