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Old 20-12-2012, 22:41
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EastEnders should see a rise tonight, even if the result was predictable, and the build up poor, we always knew the fall out, would be good, that is what EastEnders is best at.

Would like to say ratings will be 8 million but im just not sure, BBC 3 has been in the toilet since the 22:30 move.

Yes ratings will go up Christmas Day, but like tonight's, im not sure it will be by enough.
The storyline was awful but the reveal was good. Haven't watched in ages and watched out of curiosity like I think a few viewers would have done. If the rating stays static it'll be a disappointment.
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Old 20-12-2012, 22:49
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Twitter was eastenders mad tonight. I'm hoping for high ratings, but I think 8-8.5million will be the highest.
Not at all, If people are talking about it.....

EastEnders is top UK Trend and has 5 others tonight
and one worldwide.

Im hoping for at least 8million but I feel it will fall short (Just)

BBC3 might see a nice boost but I think the officials could be pretty high
I never trust Twitter trends for ratings. Some of the lowest rating and youngest skewing shows do well on Twitter. However I do try and gauge opinion from the comments. I was looking for comments where people were saying it was the first time they'd watched EastEnders in awhile. There were quite a few comments so I think a boost for tonight's episode is possible.
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Old 20-12-2012, 22:52
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Not even 10m in the consolidated ratings?
I'm talking overnights here.

I have no idea about the consolidated as BARB split ITV ratings into SD, HD, +1, -4, left-handed viewers, viewers who've been to Greece on holiday, those who like Marmite, those who hate Marmite.....

It's too complicated to work out.


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Old 20-12-2012, 22:54
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The storyline was awful but the reveal was good. Haven't watched in ages and watched out of curiosity like I think a few viewers would have done. If the rating stays static it'll be a disappointment.
this kind of episode is what EastEnders does best, even when its at its worst, with proper planning, it can pull this kind of thing out its back pocket and both be really good, and get good ratings.

This storyline points to this, the episodes leading up to it, and the idea of us not knowing who the affair was with, were both (if not many) poor decisions on the shows part, but the reveal was a really strong episode.

Classic EastEnders.
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Old 20-12-2012, 22:58
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this kind of episode is what EastEnders does best, even when its at its worst, with proper planning, it can pull this kind of thing out its back pocket and both be really good, and get good ratings.

This storyline points to this, the episodes leading up to it, and the idea of us not knowing who the affair was with, were both (if not many) poor decisions on the shows part, but the reveal was a really strong episode.

Classic EastEnders.
Don't really watch the soaps but see a few clips here and there and know what's going on as headlines pop up on Twitter. Corrie and Emmerdale sound like they're in a rich vein of form with EastEnders lagging behind. The turnaround quality wise could start with tonight's episode
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:04
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Don't really watch the soaps but see a few clips here and there and no what's going on as headlines pop up on Twitter. Corrie and Emmerdale sound like they're in a rich vein of form with EastEnders lagging behind. The turnaround quality wise could start with tonight's episode
you would like to hope, but with EE, I dont think you can say that a reveal episode being good, means anything, as (as I said above) that is what EE always has been able to, and always will be able to do well. Its basically in the shows DNA.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:07
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I'm talking overnights here.

I have no idea about the consolidated as BARB split ITV ratings into SD, HD, +1, -4, left-handed viewers, viewers who've been to Greece on holiday, those who like Marmite, those who hate Marmite.....

It's too complicated to work out.


Yes you need an equation and a code cracking machine to work it all out!
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:10
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you would like to hope, but with EE, I dont think you can say that a reveal episode being good, means anything, as (as I said above) that is what EE always has been able to, and always will be able to do well. Its basically in the shows DNA.
That's true. One swallow doesn't make a Summer. Enders needs a consistent run of good episodes to turn things around.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:13
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That's true. One swallow doesn't make a Summer. Enders needs a consistent run of good episodes to turn things around.
it needs for the episode leading up to a big reveal to be good, and for the reveals to not be so predictable. As good as this episode was, the reveal was not in anyway shocking.

If the show can get even a half decent acting performance out of Shane Ritchie, it can do better.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:14
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That's a bit desperate, Dan.
Twitter is not a good way to measure ratings as we seen from the ITV show, Take Me Out
Dan seems to be stuck in a time warp where Eastenders is concerned bless him.

Twitter has never reflected a shows rating and never will ever. One good episode of EE means nothing its still not must see TV anymore we hear about this nonsense of EE getting a boost near enough for months now yet we still wait.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:17
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They need to reduce EastEnders to two episodes per week and get Simon Ashdown to write the episodes. Tonights was very good and you can tell the difference immediately when it is a quality written episode.
One person to write the episodes?! He'll suffer from Jonathan Creek-itis, like Mr Renwick.

After a few years, he'll grow sick of the show and kill them all in a fire.

Coronation Street is doing OK, but it should be doing a lot better. And it deserves to as it's been brilliant recently.
I wouldn't say it's been brilliant, but it's been slightly above average to what the other soaps have been offering so far. Nearly a month or so until the Tyrone/Kirsty storyline comes full circle.

it needs for the episode leading up to a big reveal to be good, and for the reveals to not be so predictable. As good as this episode was, the reveal was not in anyway shocking.

If the show can get even a half decent acting performance out of Shane Ritchie, it can do better.
It needs better storylines basically. Eastenders were very good at dealing with gritty stuff but in the last few years, plots have been all over the place. Who frankly gives a toss about Kat having an affair? It's been done before and it's always, always Alfie who has to pick up the pieces.

I always feel a measure of a good storyline is the impact it has on the community. That will ultimately bring in the viewers. Probably the best one in the last decade was Richard Hillman's killing spree, which had great repercussions -- from Gail and Audrey to Ashley and Emily. Two national grid power surges: not bad.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:37
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Tomorrow i think around 7m as i think Text Santa will do better this year with all its promotion Via ITV,Vodafone ,Heart Radio and ASDA. EastEnders on monday is in a perfect slot and i think it will get its highiest figure for sometime.
Two things are you willing to take me up on the ratings wager I mentioned in an earlier post and text Santa bombed last year so it will do five million at most,
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:39
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EastEnders is trending on twitter already so it's got people talking at least
Twitter is not a reliable or respectable barometer of tv viewing habits.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:40
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That's a bit desperate, Dan.
Shall we buy him a cow pie.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:43
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God please let EastEnders get 10m tonight.

I want my Ratings Thread back.....
Robbies I'll win the Euromillions before EE reaches that figure again.

So who was the sleazy shagger shagging?
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:45
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I wouldn't say it's been brilliant, but it's been slightly above average to what the other soaps have been offering so far. Nearly a month or so until the Tyrone/Kirsty storyline comes full circle.
Last night's episode was excellent and in general I think it's been pretty good.

EastEnders was also very good tonight but these big episodes are nothing new, at its worst the show still managed to pull a good episode out of the bag now and again - the problem is the show now seems to focus everything on these big 'reveals' that the day-to-day stuff has been completely neglected. No point having a decent climax if the months of build-up has been tedious, repetitive garbage.

I partly blame Santer for that as that approach to storytelling was used quite heavily when he was producing. More and more storylines seem to be relying on 'explosive reveals' and it's not the way the show should be written.

Ratings-wise I'll be stunned if it's not at least above 8m tonight. Quite a few people were talking about it today so I'm expecting some sort of rise.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:49
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Twitter is not a reliable or respectable barometer of tv viewing habits.
Re-read my post I said nothing about ratings AT ALL just the fact that people were talking about it on twitter


Two things are you willing to take me up on the ratings wager I mentioned in an earlier post and text Santa bombed last year so it will do five million at most,
No while I have no doubts about EastEnders doing well at xmas I will only bet £50 quid on it There's no point in me saying I won't talk about EastEnders because this is never going to be the case.Text santa might have bombed last year but so did strictly,X factor ect in their first series (compared to the latter years) it's had a lot of promotion and I think it's in the right slot too.
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:51
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Well, considering Coronation Street didn't get anywhere near 10m for its heavily hyped episodes based around Peter and Carla's return (an excellent trailer in my humble soap-hating opinion) then no chance.
Good luck with that ratings prediction Robbie! It won't happen. But hopefully it'll do better than in recent ?
It wasn't a prediction but sarcasm.

If it did get 10m, which it obviously won't, we might at least find something else to talk about....
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:53
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It wasn't a prediction but sarcasm.

If it did get 10m, which it obviously won't, we might at least find something else to talk about....
Oh dear, one would almost think you didn't have the power to exercise free will...
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Old 20-12-2012, 23:56
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Bits and pieces...

BBC Daytime Controller Liam Keelan is going to run Sky 1. He has been in charge of BBC Daytime since 2006. At Sky he will report to Stuart Murphy. For a channel which is more about big one off ratings for comedy, drama, imports and entertainment rather than sustained mediocrity from cheap factual, I'm not sure hiring BBC1's daytime chief makes a huge amount of sense but we'll see how it plays out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...-director-sky1

A poster on this thread has been hinting about ITV's drama commissioners leaving. To flesh it out a bit, an article appeared in Broadcast in October claiming Laura Mackie and Sally Haynes were looking to move into production (presumably backed by one of the big indies). ITV denied it and nothing has since happened. The same article claimed Company Pictures were closing in on a big name appointment and that came shortly after when they poached John Yorke from the BBC.

Mark Burnett (creator of The Apprentice) seems to be pushing for that formats replacement with The Job which has been confirmed for a spot on CBS midseason (Fridays at 8pm). Not sure if this has been picked up in the UK? Sounds Channel 4-ish.

The Job gives candidates from around the country a chance to win positions at top companies. Each episode will feature five candidates participating in several rounds of elimination challenges before a panel of executives as they compete for their dream job. In addition to the episode’s featured company, representatives from three guest companies from related industries will have the opportunity to make an on-the-spot offer to one of the candidates, who must decide if they will accept the offer or remain in the running for the featured job.
Interested to know the nature of the 5 challenges if they're going to pack all that into 42 minutes. Can't see it being the next Apprentice anyway.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/12/cbs-...day-8-pm-slot/
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Old 21-12-2012, 00:05
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Afetr Clare Baldings huge rise in popularity this year, I now think her show Britains Brightest will get better ratings than Splash when they go head to head on Saturday nights in January.
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Old 21-12-2012, 00:09
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Afetr Clare Baldings huge rise in popularity this year, I now think her show Britains Brightest will get better ratings than Splash when they go head to head on Saturday nights in January.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this end in the standard "crap on both sides" outcome for Saturday nights. So BBC1 maybe about 4.0-4.5m and ITV1 about 3.0-3.5m.

But who knows, they might capture the imagination and do better. On that side I'd give more chance to Splash of being a surprise success. But also more chance of being a total flop. Britain's Brightest just screams of being the kind of show that will plod along at a middling level.
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Old 21-12-2012, 00:19
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I wouldn't be surprised to see this end in the standard "crap on both sides" outcome for Saturday nights. So BBC1 maybe about 4.0-4.5m and ITV1 about 3.0-3.5m.

But who knows, they might capture the imagination and do better. On that side I'd give more chance to Splash of being a surprise success. But also more chance of being a total flop. Britain's Brightest just screams of being the kind of show that will plod along at a middling level.
Just read how British version of Splash is working. First three weeks are heats. In each heat are 5 different sets of celebs, two from each heat will get through to the fourth live show which is the semi final. Then the fifth live show will be the finale.

It was a hit in Holland and has potential with the right celebs. But heres a problem: how do you make people diving into the pool exciting 25 different times in a series? With Strictly come dancing and Im a Celeb, the types of dance can be different from tango to salsa to ballroom and types of trials change from eating bugs to physical ones to underwater changes. But with diving its the same thing, a person jumping off a board, albeit at maybe different heights. How can it be made different from person to person to keep interest up for five weeks?
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Old 21-12-2012, 00:22
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Just read how British version of Splash is working. First three weeks are heats. In each heat are 5 different sets of celebs, two from each heat will get through to the fourth live show which is the semi final. Then the fifth live show will be the finale.

It was a hit in Holland and has potential. But heres a problem: how do you make people diving into the pool exciting 25 different times in a series? With Strictly come dancing and Im a Celeb, the types of dance can be different from tango to salsa to ballroom and types of trials change from eating bugs to physical ones to underwater changes. But with diving its the same thing, a person jumping off a board, albeit at maybe different heights. How can it be made different from person to person to keep interest up for five weeks?
I know you're desperate for it to be a flop Sam but better to save the critique for after it actually airs.
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Old 21-12-2012, 00:23
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Just read how British version of Splash is working. First three weeks are heats. In each heat are 5 different sets of celebs, two from each heat will get through to the fourth live show which is the semi final. Then the fifth live show will be the finale.

It was a hit in Holland and has potential. But heres a problem: how do you make people diving into the pool exciting 25 different times in a series? With dancing and Im a Celeb, the types of dance can be different and types of trials change. But with diving its the same thing, a person jumping off a board. How can it be made different from person to person to keep interest up?
Quite easily - no two dives will ever be the same, especially where amatuers are concerned. Remember too in each 90 minute show probably less than 2 minutes of it will be actual live diving - the rest will be padding a plenty, so it's making that entertaining and raising the anticipation which is key.


P.S. The Radio Times and Daily Mirror have picked upon C4's stupid scheduling of The Snowman (and other shows) and how it'll hit ratings:
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-...t-with-viewers
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