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The Ratings Thread (Part 44)
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Ice dragon1
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Corrie was 9.2m with +1, expected it to be a bit higher though.”

Ah right I thought there where already included, although I really don't like including plus 1 as its not really fair. Stil like you said with this Tyrone storyline an al I thought it might b a bit higher
Ice dragon1
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The stand out for me is the BBC Regional News being only 600k behind Emmerdale and 1.7m behind Corrie! ”

Lol I know who would of thought the news would be nearly as popular as the soaps
centauri72
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Father Brown is a daytime hit.”

I hope it continues to do well, and gets a second season. It is eminently exportable, and deserves an evening repeat slot too. Pat on the back for whoever commissioned it.
ronant
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Bloody hell that's a shocker! Remember when Deal Or No Deal used to rule the roost? Too many episodes a year, the same problem that ruined Countdown along with a crappy timeslot. Plus Nick Hewer is the worst host the programme has ever had.”

To be honest the ratings are only going to get lower and lower, they urgently need new ideas, otherwise they'll be squeezed out and it'll all be about BBC1 and ITV at that time, whereas not so long ago it was all about BBC2 and C4.
Score
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Father Brown is a daytime hit. 1.67m yesterday. Doctors is also getting some good ratings recently with yesterday's show getting 1.78m. Daytime is a real battleground at the moment between BBC1 & ITV with Channel 4 not even in the equation.

And in The Chase v Pointless.

Pointless 3.67m, The Chase 3.46m (excluding +1)”

The Chase got 3.79m with +1 included. Also 1.89m for Tipping Point.
kwynne42
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Father Brown is a daytime hit. 1.67m yesterday. Doctors is also getting some good ratings recently with yesterday's show getting 1.78m. Daytime is a real battleground at the moment between BBC1 & ITV with Channel 4 not even in the equation.

And in The Chase v Pointless.

Pointless 3.67m, The Chase 3.46m (excluding +1)”

Somerthing tells me that Father Brown should be bang on for another batch of 10 eps next year.
cylon6
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Ah right I thought there where already included, although I really don't like including plus 1 as its not really fair. Stil like you said with this Tyrone storyline an al I thought it might b a bit higher”

I I think with commercial channels using them so much purely for an easier life I just include them so we don't get all of the "Pointless beat The Chase! Yeah but not with +1!" backwards and forwards arguments around here. BARB don't use them in their end of year charts and that's the main rule for me.
Originally Posted by Score:
“The Chase got 3.79m with +1 included. Also 1.89m for Tipping Point.”

I wish you were around a few minutes ago before I posted the quiz ratings.

Originally Posted by centauri72:
“I hope it continues to do well, and gets a second season. It is eminently exportable, and deserves an evening repeat slot too. Pat on the back for whoever commissioned it.”

I think Liam Keelan commissioned Father Brown and he's off to Sky soon. It's working very well in daytime.
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Somerthing tells me that Father Brown should be bang on for another batch of 10 eps next year.”

Could it work in primetime?

Originally Posted by ronant:
“To be honest the ratings are only going to get lower and lower, they urgently need new ideas, otherwise they'll be squeezed out and it'll all be about BBC1 and ITV at that time, whereas not so long ago it was all about BBC2 and C4.”

They've shifted Countdown to put on other shows that rate worse, DOND has been burnt out and nothing else has much appeal. Daytime is poor on Channel Four.
jake lyle
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by ian hyland:
“Mainly I blame Adrian Chiles

But part of the problem was that most people know Fergie never fields his best team in the FA Cup.”

On the subject of Adrian Chiles have ITV quietly axed 'That Sunday night show'? Is he down to just the football already.
Georged123
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“On the subject of Adrian Chiles have ITV quietly axed 'That Sunday night show'? Is he down to just the football already.”

A shame if true because I actually quite liked it.
ftv
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The stand out for me is the BBC Regional News being only 600k behind Emmerdale and 1.7m behind Corrie! ”

The BBC regional news at 6.30 always puts more than a million on the Six figure demonstrating the strength of their regional programmes - BBC News has,of course, allegedly lost the nation's confidence post-Savile.
kwynne42
17-01-2013
According to the BBC Press office/Media Centre (whatever the hell its called) Being Human starts the week of the 2-8 February.
cylon6
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“For that to work I think they probably need to make a greater effort to strengthen 10PM across the year. You can't just have the occasional drama schedule at 10PM for a few weeks of the year and the rest of the time nothing of any real note and expect the audience to find the drama. Investing in some new drama imports for Channel 4 to fill some 10PM spots probably wouldn't be a bad idea either. At this stage though you'd think Channel 4's best bet would be to focus on launching drama in one slot for the rest of the year. Be that Tuesday 10PM or another day. They need to be consistent with it though.

Of course also worthy of note on this is that Channel 4's one real drama success of the past year or two has probably been Homeland which airs at 9PM...

Also on the subject of them not possibly being able to air Utopia in a 9PM slot. Are we saying that Channel 4 can't possibly have planned ahead and realised that they were going to be launching Utopia in January so leaving a 9PM slot open for it by delaying one of the unscripted offerings they have at 9PM across the week? Although I suppose had ITV and BBC1 both not decided to air big new drama on Sunday night then Channel 4 might very well have opted to try Utopia on Sunday at 9PM.”

You're right it was the 9pm slot that they targeted not 10pm. They should have tried that with some of their recent dramas. They really have been excellent. Utopia is one of the most stylish dramas I've seen in quite some time, but making the opening episode 90 minutes long with a 10pm start wasn't the best scheduling for it.
cylon6
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“According to the BBC Press office/Media Centre (whatever the hell its called) Being Human starts the week of the 2-8 February.”

And Being Human is usually on a Sunday so February 3rd for a start?
centauri72
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I

I think Liam Keelan commissioned Father Brown and he's off to Sky soon. It's working very well in daytime.
Could it work in primetime?

”

As Death in Paradise and Lewis have both shown, there is definitely a prime-time audience for straightforward, non-gory, whodunnits. Midsomer proves the point regularly too, albeit with a tad more gore - but still way short of the abattoir approach of Ripper Street.

Given that Father Brown has already been shown in daytime, it is probably unrealistic to imagine that the (current) series could be repeated in prime time anytime soon - but why not, like Death in Paradise or Wallander or Sherlock, in a summer slot on either BBC1 or BBC2, or in the Killing/Borgen Saturday night slot on BBC4? It might be a welcome alternative to the cheap factual stuff which BBC1 often chucks into the schedules in July or August.
Cestrian18
17-01-2013
Just a random bit of Information in that Simon Cowell's Food Glorious Food must be starting soon, they're filming the finals tomorrow and Saturday (I was asked to adjudicate :O) so I'd expect it to take the Tuesday 9pm slot-The format sounds naff though, basically its two meals head to head and the public are asked which they prefer with a sort of token system but hey if competitive baking works.... :P
cylon6
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by centauri72:
“As Death in Paradise and Lewis have both shown, there is definitely a prime-time audience for straightforward, non-gory, whodunnits. Midsomer proves the point regularly too, albeit with a tad more gore - but still way short of the abattoir approach of Ripper Street.

Given that Father Brown has already been shown in daytime, it is probably unrealistic to imagine that the (current) series could be repeated in prime time anytime soon - but why not, like Death in Paradise or Wallander or Sherlock, in a summer slot on either BBC1 or BBC2, or in the Killing/Borgen Saturday night slot on BBC4? It might be a welcome alternative to the cheap factual stuff which BBC1 often chucks into the schedules in July or August.”

It's easy to sneer and look down your nose at light dramas which the TV critics often do, but there is an audience for them. They don't want gore all the time. It really wouldn't surprise me if Father Brown did well with a primetime repeat.
NeilVW
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Don't forget the football figure includes whatever STV were showing so the final figure will be under 5 million”

STV were showing Miss Marple instead of the football, possibly the one that was on ITV on Tuesday as STV showed some Roman epic instead on that day. I have a figure for the third channel in Scotland of 349k (17.9%) for Marple last night but I guess that would include a few Border viewers who presumably had the match along with the rest of ITV plc's franchises. I believe Border is tiny so the figure probably is about right for STV. The share is good: Marple got 8% for ITV on Tuesday (including some Roman epic viewers on STV).
fodg09
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by centauri72:
“Sky Atlantic has commissioned a four part series about Ian Fleming - which could be quite good (and no doubt will be little watched on that channel)”

Certainly sounds like Sky's most exciting drama commission to date, worth noting it is a co-production with BBC America.

The Sky Living commissions on the other hand sound a bit dodgy (the 'modern day witches' one in particular!), although Dracula with Rhys Myers is intriguing and has potential.
Mr Sirs
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The stand out for me is the BBC Regional News being only 600k behind Emmerdale and 1.7m behind Corrie! ”


And no wonder - up here in Scotland (IMO) it's miles ahead of STV's News - far better in terms of quality, newsreaders etc... Well done them if that quality (as the figures suggest) is replicated across the country.
comedy89
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by jda135:
“The 10pm idea is, whist trying to be unique, a bad idea. The news (and BB) traditionally rule the roost at that time, and I think a lot of people's concentration has gone by that time too.

Utopia was good, but I predicted it might drop off because of the duration and scheduling. Next week, it's on for an hour at 10pm. Will be interesting to see how it does then.

--

Countdown is rating poorly because it's scheduled at a junction that no one else puts a show at, therefore any potential crossover audience is lost. The show does seem a little slower, and moving it to 2.40pm doesn't help matters. C4 axing it would indeed be an admission of how badly they have lost control, especially when their whole daytime seems to be on a downward spiral.

In terms of ratings, the episode of The Hoobs yesterday morning attracted 800 (yes eight-hundred!) viewers at 6.35am. The episode before it, at 6.10am got 11.480! Between 10am and 12pm, they got 225k (115k at 10am, 110k at 11am). Even Channel 5 are beating C4 now (in daytime anyway)!”



Channel 5 should be beating C4 in daytime anyway.

Channel 4 is just a mish mash of lifestyle programmes that could be on More4 from 9-2 ish. Channel 5 has got a good line up.

1. Strong brand identity for childrens programmes (Milkshake)
2. Wright Stuff (in its 13th year)
3. Trisha (US show) still an audience for this.
4. RPT of popular shows ( Big Brother, Hotel Inspector etc.
5. RPT US programme ( Law and Order or CSI)
6. Australian soaps (Neighbours and Home and Away
7. USA TV Movies.

There is something for everyone here, Variety. Something that has been lacking on C4 for years. All C4 is is lifestyle and dated quiz shows.
barca5
17-01-2013
Does anyone have Adults 16-34 numbers for daytime on C4 ?
They are getting kicked by ITV / BBC this days in daytime ,but I think they can still pull good numbers in this demo, especially for DoNd and Four in Bed.

Also The Undateables is doing terrifically ,winning the slot in 16-34 .
Am I the only one that thinks they should have paired it up with full series of Derek ,which already finished filming and gave Utopia Saturday 9pm slot ?
Barkers_Nipple
17-01-2013
Breakfast ratings yesterday: @BBCBreakfast 1.69m (38.2%), peaking at 2.23m; @Daybreak 630k (15.4%), peaking at 997
Hassaan13
17-01-2013
The football peaked with 6.27m (26.8%) inc +1 at 20:10.
Andy Parish
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
“Looking like a really strong 9pm week night line-up for BBC1 during the next few weeks.

The channel could well average over 8m (Mon-Fri consolidated) this week. When was the last time that happened?”

I can't remember the last time BBC1 was this strong during peak-time.

9pm hour update (consolidated figures):

Saturday 5th Jan:
6.02m -Casualty

Sunday 6th:
6.94m - Ripper Street

Monday 7th:
8.84m - Miranda
9.20m - Mrs Brown's Boys

Tuesday 8th:
8.20m - Death in Paradise

Wednesday 9th:
7.52m - Africa

Thurs/Fri 10/11th:
7m+ ?? Silent Witness ??
cylon6
17-01-2013
Originally Posted by Andy Parish:
“I can't remember the last time BBC1 was this strong during peak-time.

9pm hour update (consolidated figures):

Saturday 5th Jan:
6.02m -Casualty

Sunday 6th:
6.94m - Ripper Street

Monday 7th:
8.84m - Miranda
9.20m - Mrs Brown's Boys

Tuesday 8th:
8.20m - Death in Paradise

Wednesday 9th:
7.52m - Africa

Thurs/Fri 10/11th:
7m+ ?? Silent Witness ??”

Yog published these ratings so far for last week's Silent Witness so they'll both be 7m+ in the finals. No idea where they're up to now though.
Originally Posted by Yog101:
“Sure,

Silent Witness:
Thurs: 7,440
Fri: 6,825”

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