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The Ratings Thread (Part 44)
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Dancc
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Why is DS repoting CBB got 1.2m and around 240k on +1? That's not right. Can't be.”

It's not. It got 1.99m on C5 and 237k on +1.

By the way, repeats of Saturday's episode (which recorded a series low in the overnights) scored nicely yesterday. The first of which at 11.15am on C5 averaged 400k (3.8%). The second repeat at 2.55pm on 5* drew 163k (1.0%). Both were well up on the slot average and how the repeats had been doing.
Digital Sid
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's not. It got 1.99m on C5 and 237k on +1.

By the way, repeats of Saturday's episode (which recorded a series low in the overnights) scored nicely yesterday. The first of which at 11.15am on C5 averaged 400k (3.8%). The second repeat at 2.55pm on 5* drew 163k (1.0%). Both were well up on the slot average and how the repeats had been doing.”

Nice. Same as it was getting the first few days of CBB8.
Brekkie
21-01-2013
I think this sums up C5's attitude to Big Brother and it's fans:

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/01...tor-rehearsals

They've clearly no respect for the format and no respect for it's viewers.
Charnham
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I think this sums up C5's attitude to Big Brother and it's fans:

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/01...tor-rehearsals

They've clearly no respect for the format and no respect for it's viewers.”

that does seem to go against the format of the show, and it seems to suggest that Channel 5 have been trying to hide it from viewers.

Very odd
Digital Sid
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I think this sums up C5's attitude to Big Brother and it's fans:

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/01...tor-rehearsals

They've clearly no respect for the format and no respect for it's viewers.”

Hopefully Emma and Jamie will address this in tonight's post room.
Dancc
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I think this sums up C5's attitude to Big Brother and it's fans:

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb11/news/01...tor-rehearsals

They've clearly no respect for the format and no respect for it's viewers.”

Tut tut, taking us off topic when it suits. Naughty Brekkie!

How's Channel 4 getting on, by the way? Oh, it's not..............

The Rylan issue is a non-issue that will be blown up into a big issue by a few who don't like the show anyway. I won't waste my time commenting on it further in a Ratings Thread.
Score
21-01-2013
Very good return for Call The Midwife. Launching with its highest ever overnight is a great way to start the series (dare I say I was perhaps expecting a few hundred thousand more...but that's irrelevant really). Dancing on Ice is a bit of a concern. On the one hand the performance show is getting similar ratings to last year so it hasn't got any worse, but then I suspect they've made changes in the hope of improved ratings not flat ratings, so they'll be disappointed. The results were crushed by CTM, although Family Fortunes is doing pretty well for the cheap filler it is. Nice rating for Ripper Street and Blandings is doing really well in what isn't an easy slot.

No denying that's a disappointing drop for Mr Selfridge, but it still did pretty well. It's still got a good amount of breathing room and 5.9m is a pretty strong drama overnight just now. It's doing significantly better than The Paradise did for a start. Obviously if it continues to drop they've got a problem but just to address a few points:

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Especially with 7 episodes to go... and writing for S2 already well started.
They're lucky it's against a more male skewing drama like Ripper street rather than Death in Paradise or Silent Witness.”

Silent Witness is doing no better than Selfridge is anyway though and the former has no drama competition at all. Death In Paradise this week had about half a million more than Selfridge, but again the only drama comeptition was from a 2m rating repeat, not a 5.6m rating new drama.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It's no Wild at Heart.”

Even last night's episode should consolidate to similar levels as last year's Wild At Heart. Selfridge has been consolidating more than WAH did, and has better demos too (Selfridge has a significantly stronger ABC1 skew).

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Plus Ripper will probably consolidate better, so it will almost certainly come out in front of Selfridge now in the officials.

I think TG next week may boost Ripper still further.”

Selfridge has been consolidating better than Ripper so far though so I wouldn't count your chickens there, particularly with Ripper's overnight being a bit inflated by its lead in last night (Selfridge was ahead even without +1 for the second half of the hour).
RobbieSykes123
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by James J:
“1: Call the Midwife: 8pm BBC 1 - 9.32m (32.3%)
2: Dancing on Ice: 6.45pm ITV - 7.16m (27.4%)
3: Countryfile: 7pm BBC 1 - 6.61m (24.8%)
4: Mr Selfridge: 9pm ITV - 6.61m (24.8%)
5: Ripper Street: 9pm BBC 1 - 5.64m (21.0%)
6: Dancing on Ice: 8.30pm ITV - 5.54m (19.0%)
7: Blandings: 6.30pm BBC 1 - 5.35m (20.7%)
8: All Star Family Fortunes: 6.45pm ITV - 5.20m (18.6%)
9: ???
10: ???

Figures include +1.”

But only for ITV...

Originally Posted by ronant:
“BBC News at 6.05 had 6.18m (26.5%). BBC News at 10pm had 5.35m (24.6%). DOI had 6.96m and 5.33m, Mr Selfridge 5.45m, Family Fortunes 5.07m ”

Teatime news beats Mr Selfridge too...

(And Ripper St, to be fair)
Score
21-01-2013
Also, because I remember C14E asking last week, The Magaluf Weekender got its highest overnight so far last night, averaging 773k (inc +1). 316k were aged 16-34, a series high in that demo too.
cylon6
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I wonder how Top Gear will fare now that it'll be up against CTM...”

Top Gear was getting over 4m against CTM last year in overnights. The fact its male skewing helped it stand up to the BBC1 ratings behemoth. Things could be different this year of course.
D.M.N.
21-01-2013
Mr Selfridge is not 6.61m - it had 5.61m I think.
Score
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Mr Selfridge is not 6.61m - it had 5.61m I think.”

5.87m.
Dancc
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Top Gear was getting over 4m against CTM last year in overnights. The fact its male skewing helped it stand up to the BBC1 ratings behemoth. Things could be different this year of course.”

BBC1 and BBC2 can be a deadly force when used together like that.
AlexiR
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“Even last night's episode should consolidate to similar levels as last year's Wild At Heart. Selfridge has been consolidating more than WAH did, and has better demos too (Selfridge has a significantly stronger ABC1 skew).”

Whilst the ABC1 skew is obviously important I'm not sure that it'll consolidate to the same level as Wild at Heart is a great boon. Firstly ITV would clearly want it to be higher given than they didn't feel Wild at Heart was strong enough to come back for another series. Equally is it really a great thing for ITV that more people are recording Mr Selfridge and presumably skipping through the ads?

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“Selfridge has been consolidating better than Ripper so far though so I wouldn't count your chickens there, particularly with Ripper's overnight being a bit inflated by its lead in last night (Selfridge was ahead even without +1 for the second half of the hour).”

It'll be interesting to see whether the drop for Mr Selfridge carries over to the timeshift audience or not. Didn't episode 1 timeshift by about 1.5 million (excluding +1)? Or have I just completely made that figure up?
ccb2011
21-01-2013
how did the snooker final do last night?
cylon6
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Fantastic for Midwife. Alot of people from reading various threads seem to be first time viewers of the show as well so its great its actually building on its already established audience.”

Seemed to be a few comments on Twitter that there were first time viewers, I assumed that Christmas Day would have been the time when newbies were sampling it for the first time.

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Robbie is getting overexcited on Twitter...”

Just a tad!

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“There's a pretty good chance then that the Skate Off will be in the 4m's. Ouch and a half... dreadful.”

4m for the skate off? Not sure it'd go that low but I've been wrong before. Top Gear back in the mix next Sunday is going to be very interesting for all of the channels.
cylon6
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by ccb2011:
“how did the snooker final do last night?”

2.1m from 8pm until midnight. BBC2's top show for the evening. The football on Sky Sports had an average of 2.5m for Man U v Spurs as a comparison.
Georged123
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“Very good return for Call The Midwife. Launching with its highest ever overnight is a great way to start the series (dare I say I was perhaps expecting a few hundred thousand more...but that's irrelevant really). Dancing on Ice is a bit of a concern. On the one hand the performance show is getting similar ratings to last year so it hasn't got any worse, but then I suspect they've made changes in the hope of improved ratings not flat ratings, so they'll be disappointed. The results were crushed by CTM, although Family Fortunes is doing pretty well for the cheap filler it is. Nice rating for Ripper Street and Blandings is doing really well in what isn't an easy slot.

No denying that's a disappointing drop for Mr Selfridge, but it still did pretty well. It's still got a good amount of breathing room and 5.9m is a pretty strong drama overnight just now. It's doing significantly better than The Paradise did for a start. Obviously if it continues to drop they've got a problem but just to address a few points:”

Still had to have a little dig at Midwife.

Were you expecting CTM to be nearly 4m higher than Selfridge on overnights?

Quote:
“Silent Witness is doing no better than Selfridge is anyway though and the former has no drama competition at all. Death In Paradise this week had about half a million more than Selfridge, but again the only drama comeptition was from a 2m rating repeat, not a 5.6m rating new drama.”

I think the point was that if it was facing one of those dramas it would drop more as they have a more similar audience, it wasn't saying they were doing better than Selfridge.
Score
21-01-2013
Consolidated numbers from last week (inc +1 where relevant):

Blandings - 6.09m
Countryfile - 6.44m
Antiques Roadshow - 6.07m
Ripper Street - 6.54m

Dancing on Ice - 7.95m
All Star Family Fortunes - 6.14m
Dancing on Ice - 7.16m
Mr Selfridge - 8.95m

Huge timeshift of +2.07m for Mr Selfridge. Ripper Street went up +1.41m.
bargepole
21-01-2013
I'm probably in a very small minority here, but didn't watch any of the programmes mentioned above last night, I was watching the NFL Conference Championship games on Sky Sports 2HD from 8pm onwards.

Does anybody know the audience size for that?
cylon6
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“Consolidated numbers from last week (inc +1 where relevant):

Blandings - 6.09m
Countryfile - 6.44m
Antiques Roadshow - 6.07m
Ripper Street - 6.54m

Dancing on Ice - 7.95m
All Star Family Fortunes - 6.14m
Dancing on Ice - 7.16m
Mr Selfridge - 8.95m

Huge timeshift of +2.07m for Mr Selfridge. Ripper Street went up +1.41m.”

So Mr Selfridge is adding a bundle with timeshift. Not too far down on episode 1. Dancing On Ice is low though.
Score
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Still had to have a little dig at Midwife.

Were you expecting CTM to be nearly 4m higher than Selfridge on overnights?”

To the latter point, no I wasn't, clearly. I pointed out how well Midwife did anyway and how it is irrelevant really that I tought it might get a high 9s rating instead. Not that I was the only one, Robbie and a couple of others IIRC suggested 10m last night. It did incredibly well anyway as I said earlier.

Selfridge undoubtably dropped more than expected, although you could say it made up for a smaller than expected drop last week. The next week or two will be key to seeing whether it'll drop further or hold steady.

Quote:
“I think the point was that if it was facing one of those dramas it would drop more as they have a more similar audience, it wasn't saying they were doing better than Selfridge.”

Which is a fair point, but I didn't see the same point being made the other way around earlier in the week when the ratings for those dramas (which are also doing very well) were being discussed.
Agent F
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Score:
“Consolidated numbers from last week (inc +1 where relevant):

Blandings - 6.09m
Countryfile - 6.44m
Antiques Roadshow - 6.07m
Ripper Street - 6.54m

Dancing on Ice - 7.95m
All Star Family Fortunes - 6.14m
Dancing on Ice - 7.16m
Mr Selfridge - 8.95m

Huge timeshift of +2.07m for Mr Selfridge. Ripper Street went up +1.41m.”

Excellent timeshift for Selfridge.
SamuelW
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“ RATINGS CLEAN SWEEP!!!!

BBC1 wins every flagship 9 slot last week Monday to Sunday.

Outside of the Olympics, I cannot remember when if ever that last happened.

Certainly not in autumn and winter!

Seismic!

Mr Selfridge is not the hit ITV were hoping for!”

Great ratings for BBC, winning every night at 9oclock. And major new hits with Ripper Street and Blandings. What a fantastic start to the year its been for AUNTY. Just compare it to Itv who have had two flops or underperformers in Great night our and Selfridge and Splash has hurt their reputation. Danny Cohen must be loving it.
derek500
21-01-2013
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The ads bring down everything on commercial TV. We can't just strip them out because it suits our argument, it's important they are factored in to our calculations.”

True. But if the ratings are correct and you did a poll in the street you'll find more people watched Mr Selfridge than Ripper Street.

The fact they turn of in their thousands when the breaks are on doesn't change the fact that the actual programme is more popular. Even more so when +1 is included.
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