Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Take a bow Dan. So said, so done with EastEnders.
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“Take a bow Dan. So said, so done with EastEnders.
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I will
This is becoming a regular thing now too In the prediction game i was just as i had 9.2m still not bad
The Ratings Thread (Part 44)
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This is becoming a regular thing now too In the prediction game i was just as i had 9.2m still not bad
DMN - I may have missed it but do you know what the peak-time shares were for BBC ONE and ITV1?
IIRC Christmas Day 2011 the shares were pretty even...
IIRC Christmas Day 2011 the shares were pretty even...
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“In effect, I was right about CTM being sub 7m against Corrie because it was. Only folk switching to 1 after Corrie brought it above 7m.
Massive scheduling howler by BBC1, as ITV crushed it.
Downton will be top rated show again, but it could be close if EE consolidates well. But for all tomorrow's negative headlines, and the loss of ad revenue if say 4m watch without ads this week (potentially taking live viewings away from ITV this week), I can see them putting £s before kudos next year.”
“In effect, I was right about CTM being sub 7m against Corrie because it was. Only folk switching to 1 after Corrie brought it above 7m.
Massive scheduling howler by BBC1, as ITV crushed it.
Downton will be top rated show again, but it could be close if EE consolidates well. But for all tomorrow's negative headlines, and the loss of ad revenue if say 4m watch without ads this week (potentially taking live viewings away from ITV this week), I can see them putting £s before kudos next year.”
There's a thought. ITV have committed to another Downton Christmas special. But will it go on Christmas Day again and miss out on ad revenue? Will Call The Midwife have another Christmas special? Will Doctor Who get its 6/7pm slot back next year?
We watched Doctor Who and then turned the tv off until Eastenders later. Nothing else interested us for the evening.
Personally TRF should be rested and perhaps given a christmas eve slot in a couple of years time.
Personally TRF should be rested and perhaps given a christmas eve slot in a couple of years time.
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Where are all the EE doom predictors this Morning?
I seem to reember quite a few predicting Downton would beat it even.”
“Where are all the EE doom predictors this Morning?
I seem to reember quite a few predicting Downton would beat it even.”
Well seeing they will all have
FacesWho knows. i just hope they wasnt deluded enough to put a bet on Downton or CTM because that would have been really stupid
I wonder if Miranda is screwed tonight if millions are watching Downton and/or Call the Midwife instead?
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“There's a thought. ITV have committed to another Downton Christmas special. But will it go on Christmas Day again and miss out on ad revenue? Will Call The Midwife have another Christmas special? Will Doctor Who get its 6/7pm slot back next year?”
“There's a thought. ITV have committed to another Downton Christmas special. But will it go on Christmas Day again and miss out on ad revenue? Will Call The Midwife have another Christmas special? Will Doctor Who get its 6/7pm slot back next year?”
I think this might be Call The Midwife's only Christmas Day appearance after this but a Christmas special on another night might work better.
If I were ITV Sales I'd be begging the bosses to see sense and get Downton moved to earlier in December - hell given that this one wasn't even Christmas themed I'd try to get it moved to November when they can earn even more money from it.
Doctor Who is an odd one - it could have done better in an later slot but it probably held up a lot better than anything else would have done in that slot.
I think the BBC especially made a couple of mistakes with their schedule...
Dr Who was on too early - when it started we still had family popping in, opening presents, so we had no time for tv. I think as an episode it did better this year as from all the promos it looked like a christmas special, so would have done better than usual where ever it was put.
Having the SCD final so late this year, ment that it was too close to the christmas final. The celebrities were also a bit crap compared to the actual main series,
Call the midwife is just too dark for christmas day.
They missed a trick not putting MBB on christmas day, and they generally just needed more comedy on christmas day.
The Royle Family is suffering from a couple of duff episodes.
6:00 SCD
7:15 Dr Who
8:15 Miranda
8:45 Eastenders
9:45 MBB (both xmas eve and boxing day ep as one)
Dr Who was on too early - when it started we still had family popping in, opening presents, so we had no time for tv. I think as an episode it did better this year as from all the promos it looked like a christmas special, so would have done better than usual where ever it was put.
Having the SCD final so late this year, ment that it was too close to the christmas final. The celebrities were also a bit crap compared to the actual main series,
Call the midwife is just too dark for christmas day.
They missed a trick not putting MBB on christmas day, and they generally just needed more comedy on christmas day.
The Royle Family is suffering from a couple of duff episodes.
6:00 SCD
7:15 Dr Who
8:15 Miranda
8:45 Eastenders
9:45 MBB (both xmas eve and boxing day ep as one)
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Well seeing they will all have Faces
Who knows. i just hope they wasnt deluded enough to put a bet on Downton or CTM because that would have been really stupid”
“Well seeing they will all have
FacesWho knows. i just hope they wasnt deluded enough to put a bet on Downton or CTM because that would have been really stupid”
Remember that they're paying out on finals rather than overnights. Downton would need to outdo last year's timeshift to beat EastEnders....but you never know.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I wonder if Miranda is screwed tonight if millions are watching Downton and/or Call the Midwife instead?”
“I wonder if Miranda is screwed tonight if millions are watching Downton and/or Call the Midwife instead?”
Still lots of family gatherings happening today - I think a lot of people hold back on catching up on things until Christmas is properly out of the way.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Remember that they're paying out on finals rather than overnights. Downton would need to outdo last year's timeshift to beat EastEnders....but you never know.”
“Remember that they're paying out on finals rather than overnights. Downton would need to outdo last year's timeshift to beat EastEnders....but you never know.”
True but Downton will need to timeshift a lot more than last year.Be nice to see its +1 figures and EastEnders BBC3
Next year's schedules will surely look very different. I can see the Beeb making wholesale changes in light of the disappointing viewing figures this year. Maybe something like this:
1500 The Queen's Speech
1510 Toy Story 3
1645 TBA
1800 Doctor Who
1900 Strictly Come Dancing
2000 EastEnders
2030 Miranda
2100 EastEnders
2130 Michael McIntyre's Christmas Show
2230 Mrs. Brown's Boys
2300 News
2315 Film
1500 The Queen's Speech
1510 Toy Story 3
1645 TBA
1800 Doctor Who
1900 Strictly Come Dancing
2000 EastEnders
2030 Miranda
2100 EastEnders
2130 Michael McIntyre's Christmas Show
2230 Mrs. Brown's Boys
2300 News
2315 Film
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Thanks for that insight. Perhaps when you get back to work you could edit the wrong info on the BARB website.”
“Thanks for that insight. Perhaps when you get back to work you could edit the wrong info on the BARB website.”
What's on BARB website is their correct definition of how they collect data. If what I've typed doesn't match, then I'm wrong
Also I don't update their website willy nilly
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Btw, good job Beeb bosses didn't take advice from this thread and axe Eastenders, eh?
”
“Btw, good job Beeb bosses didn't take advice from this thread and axe Eastenders, eh?
”
Indeed. Where would they be today?
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“BBC News confirmed EE won the day with 9.4 million, looks like a comfortable win over DA.”
“BBC News confirmed EE won the day with 9.4 million, looks like a comfortable win over DA.”
The Queen can't have been too far behind EE when you add up all the different channels that it was on.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“In effect, I was right about CTM being sub 7m against Corrie because it was. Only folk switching to 1 after Corrie brought it above 7m.
Massive scheduling howler by BBC1, as ITV crushed it.
Downton will be top rated show again, but it could be close if EE consolidates well. But for all tomorrow's negative headlines, and the loss of ad revenue if say 4m watch without ads this week (potentially taking live viewings away from ITV this week), I can see them putting £s before kudos next year.”
“In effect, I was right about CTM being sub 7m against Corrie because it was. Only folk switching to 1 after Corrie brought it above 7m.
Massive scheduling howler by BBC1, as ITV crushed it.
Downton will be top rated show again, but it could be close if EE consolidates well. But for all tomorrow's negative headlines, and the loss of ad revenue if say 4m watch without ads this week (potentially taking live viewings away from ITV this week), I can see them putting £s before kudos next year.”
I know you're trying to put a negative soon on the BBC ratings but as I said in previous post ctm was untested in xmas day and a new show... It did comparably well with eventing else that day only the two big soaps really excelled.
It'll be interesting to see what the final ratings are.
But it was good counter programming really..and it preformed as DA did too!
Mrs Browns Boys got 8.8m on Christmas Eve. If it had been shown yesterday straight after Eastenders, it would've got more viewers than the Royle Family. In fact, it could have got the biggest audience of the day yesterday.
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“True but Downton will need to timeshift a lot more than last year.Be nice to see its +1 figures and EastEnders BBC3”
“True but Downton will need to timeshift a lot more than last year.Be nice to see its +1 figures and EastEnders BBC3”
Downton was 7.32m with +1 so about 500k?
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Remember that they're paying out on finals rather than overnights. Downton would need to outdo last year's timeshift to beat EastEnders....but you never know.”
“Remember that they're paying out on finals rather than overnights. Downton would need to outdo last year's timeshift to beat EastEnders....but you never know.”
I wonder if Downton time shift will be down this year, as people caught up with it on ITV +1 after Eastenders, rather than watch The Royle Family.
Awful night. Terrible numbers. CTM will not be returning next Christmas. I am actually shocked to be honest how bad all of those numbers are. Next year BBC One need's to spice things up again because that's poor.
MBB and maybe Miranda next year?
EE did okay. But everything else was bad. Downton! Oh dear. I do feel however that the timeshifts are going to be big and they need to be. It seems Christmas this year was a huge turn off.
I like CTM but it didn't work on Christmas day people were talking and playing around and you can't watch that sort of thing live on Christmas day.
I am really disappointed but I can't say I am that surprised.
Ken
MBB and maybe Miranda next year?
EE did okay. But everything else was bad. Downton! Oh dear. I do feel however that the timeshifts are going to be big and they need to be. It seems Christmas this year was a huge turn off.
I like CTM but it didn't work on Christmas day people were talking and playing around and you can't watch that sort of thing live on Christmas day.
I am really disappointed but I can't say I am that surprised.
Ken
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BREAKING: EastEnders tops Christmas Day with 9.37m (34.3%) ! (excluding +1's)
Christmas Day 2012
BBC One
14:00 - Top of the Pops: 3.88m (26.6%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.27m (36.7%)
15:10 - FILM: Shrek Forever: 4.92m (29.7%)
16:35 - Room with a Broom: 4.70m (25.3%)
17:00 - BBC News: 5.63m (28.8%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 7.59m (33.9%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 7.76m (33.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife: 7.27m (28.3%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 9.37m (34.3%)
21:45 - The Royle Family: 7.68m (30.1%)
22:45 - BBC News: 6.09m (30.3%)
23:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 3.23m (20.8%)
ITV1
13:25 - FILM: Toy Story: 2.00m (14.0%)
15:00 - The Queen: 2.03m (11.9%)
15:10 - FILM: Tangled: 2.90m (17.1%)
17:00 - You've Been Framed!: 3.15m (15.3%)
17:30 - Emmerdale: 4.70m (20.7%) , +1: 232k (1.0%)
* 17:30 to 17:55 - 4.86m (21.4%)
18:00 - Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs: 4.12m (18.2%) , +1: 188k (0.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.98m (24.7%) , +1: 248k (1.0%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.58m (33.5%) , +1: 254k (0.9%)
20:30 - ITV News and Weather: 5.59m (21.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.83m (25.9%) , +1: 488k (2.3%)”
“BREAKING: EastEnders tops Christmas Day with 9.37m (34.3%) ! (excluding +1's)
Christmas Day 2012
BBC One
14:00 - Top of the Pops: 3.88m (26.6%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.27m (36.7%)
15:10 - FILM: Shrek Forever: 4.92m (29.7%)
16:35 - Room with a Broom: 4.70m (25.3%)
17:00 - BBC News: 5.63m (28.8%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 7.59m (33.9%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 7.76m (33.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife: 7.27m (28.3%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 9.37m (34.3%)
21:45 - The Royle Family: 7.68m (30.1%)
22:45 - BBC News: 6.09m (30.3%)
23:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 3.23m (20.8%)
ITV1
13:25 - FILM: Toy Story: 2.00m (14.0%)
15:00 - The Queen: 2.03m (11.9%)
15:10 - FILM: Tangled: 2.90m (17.1%)
17:00 - You've Been Framed!: 3.15m (15.3%)
17:30 - Emmerdale: 4.70m (20.7%) , +1: 232k (1.0%)
* 17:30 to 17:55 - 4.86m (21.4%)
18:00 - Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs: 4.12m (18.2%) , +1: 188k (0.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.98m (24.7%) , +1: 248k (1.0%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.58m (33.5%) , +1: 254k (0.9%)
20:30 - ITV News and Weather: 5.59m (21.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.83m (25.9%) , +1: 488k (2.3%)”
Was expecting a bit more for The Queen, but 6.3m at 3pm on Xmas Day is still pretty good. If we total both ITV1 and BBC One broadcasts, we get 8.30m (48.6%).
I don't think Downton has ever dropped that low before, and that's pretty low for Emmerdale at 17:30. Doctor Who did pretty well, underperformance for Call the Midwife.
Chatty Man was a few 100k off what I was expecting, I found it a pretty entertaining show.
Looking at some of the overnights for the kids channels, they didn't do too well either.
Lower than I expected for a lot of shows, kind of puts Mrs Browns Boys in perspective that it is huge to get 8.8m on Christmas Eve.
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