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The Ratings Thread (Part 44)
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Ice dragon1
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yeah but with the exception of 2011, ITV never rates well on Xmas Day. Last year gave them hope, but this year it's fallen apart and they'll have to think again.

The BBC however normally dominates all day long and produces seriously substantial audiences for multiple programmes. The inquest as to why that didn't happen yesterday will go on for some time I suspect.”

Am guessing its because like most people have said, there where a lot of big shows clashing with each other which could have only had a negative effect on al the shows.
Dancc
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“It provided a 75 minute solid 7m rating which allowed DW and SCD to shift early and record big year on year gains for the slot between 5-7pm. IT underwhelmed but it certainly didn't drag the night down for BBC One, it's inclusion helped BBC One overall. It's also only 300k off what SCD recorded in the same slot last year. To say it dragged down the night is nonsense if anything it did the opposite.”

Now you're being very selective, Jake. I dunno why Strictly rated so poorly last Xmas Day, but that isn't normally the case.

In 2010 for example Strictly managed 9.4m (34.4%) against Corrie's 9m (33.1%).
derek500
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Absolutely agree Mrs Bown Boys Is a fantastic show and deserves a lot more credit. I mean look, it manages to make DA ratings look really shocking.”

Perhaps DA need to let one character, let's say Maggie Smith's, utter the F word every time she's wheeled in and get an inane studio audience to go wild on each occasion.
jake lyle
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The BBC however normally dominates all day long and produces seriously substantial audiences for multiple programmes. The inquest as to why that didn't happen yesterday will go on for some time I suspect.”

I'm fairly sure that BBC one is up year on year across the day.
F1Ken
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“Channel Four has been struggling to reach a million for a few new commissions. Jay Hunt apparently likes to know the overnights too.”

Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“Lol r u actually serious? Not being funny but maybe should take a look at Itv ratings. Now there shocking especially DA :0”

Yes ITV was poor as well. I am massivly disapointed with everything.

DA and CTM are not Christmas shows DW was to early Strictly should have been earlier TRF need's to be rested and EE needed to the split to capitalise on the fact that it is the biggest Christmas show on the night.

Based on this years performance BBC One don't need to worry about downton on Christmas day. its not a threat.

BBC One could do with some more LE strictly has a good show but the fact it was so close to the final it felt pointless. But the fact that strictly is more of a Christmas show than CTM and DA it deserves to stay.

Corrie was dented but strong Em looks low and the dog show was steady but very unspectacular.

In short Christmas should be LE plus comedy plus a bit of soaps.

Gritty Period drama however brilliant it is does not fit the bill.

I am worried Christmas ratings are just going to keep falling now actually because there is very little new and exciting things happening.

Ken
mossy2103
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Perhaps DA need to let one character, let's say Maggie Smith's, utter the F word every time she's wheeled in and get an inane studio audience to go wild on each occasion.”

Well, you can't blame the broadcaster for something that the audience in question seems to like.

Perhaps the DA audience is not the same as that for MBB?
Ambassador
26-12-2012
A lot of people on here did say this was an awfully elderly skewed schedule across the channels.

Too drama heavy and nothing for the family or to relax with after the big day.

Games, Ipads, conversation and family the rating winner

Ratings are no less than either side deserved.
allthingsuk
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“Yes ITV was poor as well. I am massivly disapointed with everything.

DA and CTM are not Christmas shows DW was to early Strictly should have been earlier TRF need's to be rested and EE needed to the split to capitalise on the fact that it is the biggest Christmas show on the night.

Based on this years performance BBC One don't need to worry about downton on Christmas day. its not a threat.

BBC One could do with some more LE strictly has a good show but the fact it was so close to the final it felt pointless. But the fact that strictly is more of a Christmas show than CTM and DA it deserves to stay.

Corrie was dented but strong Em looks low and the dog show was steady but very unspectacular.

In short Christmas should be LE plus comedy plus a bit of soaps.

Gritty Period drama however brilliant it is does not fit the bill.

I am worried Christmas ratings are just going to keep falling now actually because there is very little new and exciting things happening.

Ken”

Xmas Day TV was rubbish yesterday apart from EE. I thought the Xmas Eve schedule was actually better with EE, Outnumbered and MBB.

Next Xmas, I think EE needs a split - when they've done splits in the past, they've done 1 ep at 8pm and 9pm, but some years, they've had an episode at around 5.40pm or 5.50pm and another at 8pm.

All in all, quite underwhelming. Only ratings I'm not surprised about is EE, Doctor Who and SCD.

Yet again, EE pulls it out of the bag again. Dan was right.
Only_You
26-12-2012
For those who are interested in the Shrek Vs. Tangeled battle. I think some of you are more clued up than I am. Is Shrek likely to still beat it when the officials come out?
Dancc
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“ I'm fairly sure that BBC one is up year on year across the day.”

What, because ITV was weaker you mean? Oh, Jake. I'm not going to keep arguing with you about this. Clearly the BBC has not produced any standout ratings for its first Xmas in a long time and clearly that should mean big changes next year. There really is no need for you to go into ultra-defensive mode as we both want the same thing.
jake lyle
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Now you're being very selective, Jake. I dunno why Strictly rated so poorly last Xmas Day, but that isn't normally the case.

In 2010 for example Strictly managed 9.4m (34.4%) against Corrie's 9m (33.1%).”

Yeah the year Vince Cable was on! I see you didn't bother to post the 2009 figure! BTW how is it selective to compare year on year

You haven't bothered to respond to my main point about how having Midwife in the slot allowed BBC ONE to shift SCD and DW earlier which allowed the 5-7pm slot to make big year on year increases.
Hassaan13
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Isn't this series of Mrs Brown's Boys the last, I didn't think they were going to go past a 3rd season?

The BBC would be mad not to order a Christmas special for next year after its massive Christmas Eve rating. If Mrs Brown's Boys had been on instead of the Royal Family last night it probably would have topped the whole day.”

I doubt it'd be the last after the ratings of Christmas Eve, not many sitcoms these days can get 8m.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Hats of to that ratings hit known as The Queen, if we add all the showings together, she could be pulling in 9 million, almost up there with EE.
Also praise to ITV1, once a national joke on Christmas Day, for holding up so well in peak time. CS did very well for them and DA and Emmerdale kept a high percentage of the viewers.
I think TRF is starting to creak a bit now and ratings of 7.69 million show the public aren't so keen. Also the extremely coarse humour at times was off putting. Auntie should now consider a double bill of Miranda and MBB.”

The Queen had a total of 8.30m (48.6%) across ITV1 and BBC One.
Dancc
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Only_You:
“For those who are interested in the Shrek Vs. Tangeled battle. I think some of you are more clued up than I am. Is Shrek likely to still beat it when the officials come out? ”

Tangled has got an awfully big gap to close, bearing in mind that Shrek will also benefit from timeshift viewing being added. All bets on Shrek to win should be winners.
jake lyle
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“What, because ITV was weaker you mean? Oh, Jake. I'm not going to keep arguing with you about this. Clearly the BBC has not produced any standout ratings for its first Xmas in a long time and clearly that should mean big changes next year. There really is no need for you to go into ultra-defensive mode as we both want the same thing.”

It has nothing to do with ITV. BBC ONE managed to increase the 5-7pm slot by nearly 2m by having CTM in the schedule. Ctm posted an underwhelming figure but it wasn't a disaster and was only slightly down on what SCD did against Corrie last year. It didn't drag the schedule down.
Only_You
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Tangled has got an awfully big gap to close, bearing in mind that Shrek will also benefit from timeshift viewing being added. All bets on Shrek to win should be winners. ”

Thanks man, Merry Christmas!
Jay Lee
26-12-2012
Well done, EastEnders... though some people in my family intentionally avoided watching it, which wasn't the case in years gone by. It will have a challenge keeping the momentum going. Tonight's figures will be interesting.

The Royle Family... feels very tired these days; a "safe" option but I personally don't rate it and switched off. As others have suggested, Mrs Brown's Boys could have excelled after EastEnders last night. Good to see a show not taking itself seriously... and still being very amusing. Call the Midwife did not feel right on Christmas Day and, as others have pointed out, too long at 75 minutes.
Glenn A
26-12-2012
Lessons to be learned for next year: period drama doesn't really belong on Christmas Day, TRF should be pensioned off, DW should be put in a 6.00 slot, ITV should look to a comedy drama like Benidorm to follow CS.
iaindb
26-12-2012
BBC1 need to remember which two of their past programmes were Christmas - Morecambe And Wise and Only Fools And Horses, two upbeat, feel-good, happy comedy shows. Under that criteria, the one programme that has Christmas Day written all over it is Miranda (with Mrs Brown for late night).

But it's easy to be wise after the event. CTM was an established ratings smash whilst Miranda is untried for new episodes on BBC1. Although they were quite happy to premiere Come Fly With Me on Christmas Day and to 12m viewers in the finals.

Hopefully Danny Cohen will learn lessons from this Christmas Day to come up with a better schedule next year.
jake lyle
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by F1Ken:
“BBC One could do with some more LE strictly has a good show but the fact it was so close to the final it felt pointless. But the fact that strictly is more of a Christmas show than CTM and DA it deserves to stay.

In short Christmas should be LE plus comedy plus a bit of soaps.
”

+1 on all points.
Dancc
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“It has nothing to do with ITV. BBC ONE managed to increase the 5-7pm slot by nearly 2m by having CTM in the schedule. Ctm posted an underwhelming figure but it wasn't a disaster and was only slightly down on what SCD did against Corrie last year. It didn't drag the schedule down.”

So we can expect Call the Midwife to feature in the same slot next Xmas then? Is that your prediction?

I'll stick to my shout of wholesale changes and we'll see who's right.
Cent
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Isn't this series of Mrs Brown's Boys the last, I didn't think they were going to go past a 3rd season?

The BBC would be mad not to order a Christmas special for next year after its massive Christmas Eve rating. If Mrs Brown's Boys had been on instead of the Royal Family last night it probably would have topped the whole day.”

Pretty sure they recorded 3 Christmas specials, so there's one already there for next year. They won't have another series for next year though because they have an arena tour then a film to do.

Brendan has previously said there's enough material for loads of episodes as he's been writing for the character for years so I think there will be another series.

As for Downton time shifting, it doesn't really matter to ITV as all their ad revenue is based on overnights. Mind you, Xmas day doesn't really matter to ITV either - ad revenue drops off a cliff after last week.
James J
26-12-2012
Have we had a list from highest to lowest? Top 20 perhaps?

Apologies if we have, just woken up and not gone through the whole thread...

Fairly disinterested in the overnights. I watched the following yesterday on Sky+ in this order:

Top of the Pops (around 6pm)
Outnumbered (from Xmas Eve, 7pm)
Doctor Who (around 8pm)
Coronation Street (around 9pm)
EastEnders (around 10pm)
The Royle Family (around 11pm)

Overnights are irrelevant for last night IMO.
Alrightmate
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It looks as though Tangled was only 3rd in the end as I've just seen that Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa before TOTP did pretty well for a repeat. Around 3.6m I think but I'm just looking at the raw numbers.

Really can't see ITV making as much effort next year. I predict no post-Queen premiere and no Downton as both are capable of rating better and making them more money in the run up to Christmas, so it's a no-brainer.”

That would be a shame because I feel that ITV are making more of an effort this year.
Belligerence
26-12-2012
Impressive that from Eastenders.
Dancc
26-12-2012
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“The Queen had a total of 8.30m (48.6%) across ITV1 and BBC One.”

Just had a look and including BBC News, BBC HD (3D) and Sky News the total is boosted to 8.7m.
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