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Old 26-12-2012, 11:26
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Have we had a list from highest to lowest? Top 20 perhaps?

Apologies if we have, just woken up and not gone through the whole thread...

Fairly disinterested in the overnights. I watched the following yesterday on Sky+ in this order:

Top of the Pops (around 6pm)
Outnumbered (from Xmas Eve, 7pm)
Doctor Who (around 8pm)
Coronation Street (around 9pm)
EastEnders (around 10pm)
The Royle Family (around 11pm)






Overnights are irrelevant for last night IMO.
Remember, anything you record but watch on the same day before 2am counts in the overnights (although only if you're part of the BARB audience sample.)
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:26
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Just had a look and including BBC News, BBC HD (3D) and Sky News the total is boosted to 8.7m.
Surely that'd be a 50% share?
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:27
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I wonder if Downton time shift will be down this year, as people caught up with it on ITV +1 after Eastenders, rather than watch The Royle Family.
Plus Downton is starting from a lower base compared to last year. So beating EastEnders in the finals will be tough, not impossible, but still tough.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:28
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I'm going to bravely predict Doors Open to come a cropper tonight and Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys to both crack 9m.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:31
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BREAKING: EastEnders tops Christmas Day with 9.37m (34.3%) ! (excluding +1's)

Christmas Day 2012
BBC One
14:00 - Top of the Pops: 3.88m (26.6%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.27m (36.7%)
15:10 - FILM: Shrek Forever: 4.92m (29.7%)
16:35 - Room with a Broom: 4.70m (25.3%)
17:00 - BBC News: 5.63m (28.8%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 7.59m (33.9%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 7.76m (33.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife: 7.27m (28.3%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 9.37m (34.3%)
21:45 - The Royle Family: 7.68m (30.1%)
22:45 - BBC News: 6.09m (30.3%)
23:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 3.23m (20.8%)

ITV1
13:25 - FILM: Toy Story: 2.00m (14.0%)
15:00 - The Queen: 2.03m (11.9%)
15:10 - FILM: Tangled: 2.90m (17.1%)
17:00 - You've Been Framed!: 3.15m (15.3%)
17:30 - Emmerdale: 4.70m (20.7%) , +1: 232k (1.0%)
* 17:30 to 17:55 - 4.86m (21.4%)
18:00 - Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs: 4.12m (18.2%) , +1: 188k (0.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.98m (24.7%) , +1: 248k (1.0%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.58m (33.5%) , +1: 254k (0.9%)
20:30 - ITV News and Weather: 5.59m (21.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.83m (25.9%) , +1: 488k (2.3%)
Thanks DMN.

First off, woohoo my bet on Eastenders under 9.8m has won. Had a bet on Shrek as well but not the hundreds/thousands of pounds some had risked. Glad it did the business too

On to the ratings. Eastenders and Coronation Street seem to have come out of the epic clashes fairly well. Eastenders in particular whilst not a massive rating, ended up with a decent result. I really don't know how much of a medium or long term boost Eastenders will see though. Coronation Street did well against Call the Midwife, which I really thought would dent Corrie more than that.

Doctor Who also had a nice rating considering the early slot and it was a nice episode to watch too. If anyone has the breakdown between LIVE viewers and VOSDAL viewers for Dr Who or indeed all of the programs last night, I would be fascinated to see that.

Biggest underwhelmers for me are Call the Midwife and Downton Abbey. Call The Midwife was below the 7million mark for the majority of its runtime and only picked up an average above 7m due to the big peak at the end when ITV had news on. Downton Abbey should have capitalised on a weaker Eastenders and at least matched last years rating, however it did have the disadvantage of that news break beforehand. The news sent a big number of viewers off to BBC1 at 8:30-8:45.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:35
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First off, woohoo my bet on Eastenders under 9.8m has won.
Nice one, Dave.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:36
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Would like to see the Beeb break with tradition next year and do something different. A schedule like this would be great:

6.20 News
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who
8.00 Miranda
8.30 EastEnders
9.00 Mrs Brown's Boys
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Michael McIntyre's Christmas Show
11.30 News

Plenty of variety there.

CTM should air on Christmas Eve.

ITV need to shorten Downton to protect its overnight - 2 hours is too much. 75 mins max, maybe even just an hour.

Anyway, bit early for next year.... apologies...
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:37
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The news sent a big number of viewers off to BBC1 at 8:30-8:45.
Maybe ITV should have gone straight from Corrie to Downton at 8.30 and not bothered with meeting BBC1 at a junction.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:38
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So we can expect Call the Midwife to feature in the same slot next Xmas then? Is that your prediction?

I'll stick to my shout of wholesale changes and we'll see who's right.
Too right, OK BBC One had some gems like EE, DW, SCD last night and TRF was funny in places if now showing its age, but 75 minutes of Sunday night drama was a bit much for many viewers and the comedy classic of the Vicar of Dibley was OK but not remembered as fondly at Christmas as Morecambe and Wise or The Two Ronnies, who deserve a late airing.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:39
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Would like to see the Beeb break with tradition next year and do something different. A schedule like this would be great:

6.20 News
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who
8.00 Miranda
8.30 EastEnders
9.00 Mrs Brown's Boys
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Michael McIntyre's Christmas Show
11.30 News

Plenty of variety there.

ITV could just plop the usual back:

6.00 Emmerdale
6.30 Paul O'Grady: For The Love of Dogs
7.00 Emmerdale
7.30 Coronation Street
8.30 Downton Abbey
10.30 News

Anyway, bit early for next year.... apologies...
9pm for a comedy containing fou-letter words on Christmas night would be one step too far for many I would suggest.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:43
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Too right, OK BBC One had some gems like EE, DW, SCD last night and TRF was funny in places if now showing its age, but 75 minutes of Sunday night drama was a bit much for many viewers and the comedy classic of the Vicar of Dibley was OK but not remembered as fondly at Christmas as Morecambe and Wise or The Two Ronnies, who deserve a late airing.
I wouldn't rule out The Royle Family getting another chance next year. I'm not saying it deserves one, but it's possible it got squeezed due to viewers who watched CtM catching up on Corrie after EastEnders and vice-versa. Also would have lost out to Downton, which may not be a factor next year.

In summary I think TRF might be one of the biggest improvers when the officials come out.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:44
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Would like to see the Beeb break with tradition next year and do something different. A schedule like this would be great:

6.20 News
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who
8.00 Miranda
8.30 EastEnders
9.00 Mrs Brown's Boys
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Michael McIntyre's Christmas Show
11.30 News

Plenty of variety there.

ITV could just plop the usual back:

6.00 Emmerdale
6.30 Paul O'Grady: For The Love of Dogs
7.00 Emmerdale
7.30 Coronation Street
8.30 Downton Abbey
10.30 News

Anyway, bit early for next year.... apologies...
Not sure MBB could go out at 9pm. Think 9.30 is the earliest the BBC will allow with the swearing.

Yet to see if any of BBC1's brand new sitcoms will do the business next year and qualify for a Christmas Day slot. Offerings coming up from Ben Elton and David Walliams.

Think it may be time to pension off The Royle Family. A bit "meh" last night. Just as the Trotters should have stopped whern they became Millionaires in 1996 so TRF should have stopped with The Queen Of Sheba (Nana's fial episode) which was pure quality television IMHO.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:46
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Too right, OK BBC One had some gems like EE, DW, SCD last night and TRF was funny in places if now showing its age, but 75 minutes of Sunday night drama was a bit much for many viewers and the comedy classic of the Vicar of Dibley was OK but not remembered as fondly at Christmas as Morecambe and Wise or The Two Ronnies, who deserve a late airing.
Oh yes, that's another option for BBC1 next year - pull out all the stops to get Curtis and French to make a new Dibley.

OR.....

Tell Nick Park to get his finger out.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:47
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I wouldn't rule out The Royle Family getting another chance next year. I'm not saying it deserves one, but it's possible it got squeezed due to viewers who watched CtM catching up on Corrie after EastEnders and vice-versa. Also would have lost out to Downton, which may not be a factor next year.

In summary I think TRF might be one of the biggest improvers when the officials come out.
Possibly. Problem is the three previous Christmas specials (2008, 2009 and 2010) have all been really consistent in the overnights, getting 10m, 10.2m and 9.9m respectively, all with an EastEnders lead-in, so a drop all the way to 7.7m must be a bit of a blow and a shock to those involved. With Downton in play and the factors you suggested there was obviously going to be some kind of drop but that is still below expectations, especially after its lead-in performed above expectations.

Last night's episode was pretty poor and felt really tired too. I think they ought to wrap it up sooner rather than later, and I'm not sure if they'll want it on the big day next year, especially if Miranda does well tonight.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:49
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I'm going to bravely predict Doors Open to come a cropper tonight and Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys to both crack 9m.
I am recording Doors Open tonight and opting to watch Miranda and MBB live instead. I wonder how many people will do the same? I got a Freeview+ box for Christmas, so I'm just going mad at the moment and feel like recording everything just because I can

I think you're right about Miranda and MBB cracking 9m. But I think Doors Open will do OK with 4m+. It looks quite decent and Stephen Fry is in it.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:50
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Oh yes, that's another option for BBC1 next year - pull out all the stops to get Curtis and French to make a new Dibley.

OR.....

Tell Nick Park to get his finger out.
Well BBC One revived Ab Fab last year, which wasn't very good, and I doubt reviving Vicar would do much better as its glory days were when John Major was PM. I think these old sitcoms, just like a disastrous revival of To The Manor Born, though 10 million sat through what was totally unfunny and dated, are best left alone now. Auntie has Miranda and MBB as new hits and maybe is there a chance Catherine Tate can be approached again?
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:50
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Made money from EE being top (granted it was odds-on last week at 1/2, backed into 1/12), sounds like others did too.

The abandoned racing on BBC2 tomorrow has been replaced by 1959 film North West Frontier, and, (of course), Coast.

I feel one of the Beeb's ricks over Christmas was Lady And The Tramp. Had they said "first time on terrestrial television" it could have got even more than it did.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:51
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Surprised at CTM's share last night, it deserved to do better in that slot. Even more surprised at the Royle Family especially as it was a weak episode.

Like others, I think they'll go for comedy next year with Miranda and the return of Mrs Browns Boys.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:51
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9pm for a comedy containing fou-letter words on Christmas night would be one step too far for many I would suggest.
Agreed-I said that yesterday.

Anyway MBB is doing well enough where it is.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:52
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Merry Boxing Day everyone.

BREAKING: EastEnders tops Christmas Day with 9.37m (34.3%) ! (excluding +1's)

Christmas Day 2012
BBC One
14:00 - Top of the Pops: 3.88m (26.6%)
15:00 - The Queen: 6.27m (36.7%)
15:10 - FILM: Shrek Forever: 4.92m (29.7%)
16:35 - Room with a Broom: 4.70m (25.3%)
17:00 - BBC News: 5.63m (28.8%)
17:15 - Doctor Who: 7.59m (33.9%)
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special: 7.76m (33.3%)
19:30 - Call the Midwife: 7.27m (28.3%)
20:45 - EastEnders: 9.37m (34.3%)
21:45 - The Royle Family: 7.68m (30.1%)
22:45 - BBC News: 6.09m (30.3%)
23:00 - The Vicar of Dibley: 3.23m (20.8%)

ITV1
13:25 - FILM: Toy Story: 2.00m (14.0%)
15:00 - The Queen: 2.03m (11.9%)
15:10 - FILM: Tangled: 2.90m (17.1%)
17:00 - You've Been Framed!: 3.15m (15.3%)
17:30 - Emmerdale: 4.70m (20.7%) , +1: 232k (1.0%)
* 17:30 to 17:55 - 4.86m (21.4%)
18:00 - Paul O'Grady For The Love Of Dogs: 4.12m (18.2%) , +1: 188k (0.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.98m (24.7%) , +1: 248k (1.0%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.58m (33.5%) , +1: 254k (0.9%)
20:30 - ITV News and Weather: 5.59m (21.6%)
20:45 - Downton Abbey: 6.83m (25.9%) , +1: 488k (2.3%)
I think something is going wrong with BBC1 on Christmas Day with EastEnders topping the chart two years running. A nice figure for Corrie though - after a few years struggling on Christmas Day they seem to have picked up over the last couple of years. Emmerdale should have done better though, but it's scheduling let it down. Downton is rather underwhelming too - I thought quite a few might have taped it then watched it after EE from 9.45-11.15pm, skipping the ads. ITV might have been better playing it on Sunday, though of course they've nothing else which will pull in 7m over two hours on Christmas Day.

It'll be interesting to see whether Corrie can overthrow EastEnders when it comes to the officials (I don't think Downton has a chance!).

Christmas Day 2012 - More Ratings
BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.18m (30.0%)
09:00 - The Gruffalo: 2.18m (24.0%)
09:25 - Peter Rabbit's Christmas Tale: 1.73m (17.3%)
10:00 - Christmas Day Eucharist: 880k (7.9%)
11:00 - Only Fools and Horses: 1.98m (16.9%)
12:00 - BBC News: 2.61m (21.3%)
12:15 - FILM: Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa: 3.64m (28.0%)

BBC Two
18:25 - Top Gear: 1.06m (4.5%)
19:30 - Dad's Army: 1.21m (4.8%)
20:00 - Blackadder's Christmas Carol: 1.43m (5.5%)
20:45 - The Choir: A Year with the Military Wives: 1.32m (4.9%)
21:45 - QI XL: 1.21m (4.7%)

ITV1
09:25 - FILM: Aladdin: 1.74m (16.1%)
11:10 - The Nation's Favourite Christmas Song: 1.30m (10.9%)
12:40 - Text Santa: 776k (6.2%)
...
22:45 - FILM: Couples Retreat: 1.16m (9.3%)

Channel 4
10:00 - Gordon's Christmas Cookalong Live: 836k (6.9%)
13:55 - The Snowman and the Snowdog: 1.48m (10.4%)
....
17:40 - FILM: Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: 1.82m (7.5%)
21:00 - Alan Carr: Chatty Man: 1.28m (4.7%)

Channel 5
sub 1m
ITV topping BBC1 for an hour and a half in the morning. I guess they'll take the victories where they can.

Christmas Eve 2012
BBC One
18:45 - FILM: A Christmas Carol: 3.85m (15.8%)
20:15 - Merlin: 6.14m (23.4%)
21:00 - EastEnders: 8.49m (32.9%)
* 21:05 to 21:30 - 8.55m (33.0%)
* peak was at 21:00 with 8.94m (34.7%) as Merlin ended...
21:35 - Outnumbered Christmas Special: 7.84m (31.4%)
22:15 - Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas Special: 8.78m (36.9%)
22:45 - The Vicar of Dibley: 4.60m (24.9%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.80m (28.8%) , +1: 188k (0.7%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.27m (31.7%) , +1: 378.5k (1.5%)
* 19:30 to 20:25 - 8.28m (31.9%)
20:30 - The Spice Girls' Story: Viva Forever!: 2.27m (8.9%)

Channel 4
20:00 - The Snowman and The Snowdog: 4.33m (15.9%) , +1: 569.5k (2.2%)
* 20:00 to 20:25 - 4.78m (17.5%)
* peak: 5.08m (18.5%) at 20:15 exc +1
* peak: 5.77m (20.7%) at 20:15 inc +1

Merry fecking Christmas everyone.

EDIT - No tape-checking.
Mrs Brown the figure of the period for me - and I could see it easily topping 10m tonight. Better than I expected to for The Snowman and the Snowdog, though still can't help thinking how much more it might have got had it aired 90 minutes earlier. And ITV got exactly what they deserve for the Spice Girls - that was a dead Saturday filler at best, not Christmas Eve stuff. They should have put Panto! in the slot really.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:56
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How about this for Christmas

BBC1

1700 BBC News
1710 Pointless Christmas
1800 Strictly Come Quickly
1830 EastEnders
1915 An All-Star Cast Presents....
2030 Doctor Who vs Merlin
2130 Something New
2230 My Family Outnumbered
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:56
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Well BBC One revived Ab Fab last year, which wasn't very good, and I doubt reviving Vicar would do much better as its glory days were when John Major was PM. I think these old sitcoms, just like a disastrous revival of To The Manor Born, though 10 million sat through what was totally unfunny and dated, are best left alone now. Auntie has Miranda and MBB as new hits and maybe is there a chance Catherine Tate can be approached again?
I feel that Dibley has always been more critically acclaimed than Ab Fab and has more universal appeal. Ab Fab has been getting a bit of a critical kicking for a good few years now.
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Old 26-12-2012, 11:57
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9pm for a comedy containing fou-letter words on Christmas night would be one step too far for many I would suggest.
MBB was shown on RTÉ One on Christmas Day (after EastEnders):

http://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/mrsbrownsboys.html
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Old 26-12-2012, 12:01
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Are we actually any closer in knowing what the most watched programme is on Christmas Day - Officially? Is it likely EastEnders will keep hold of the title or cold Call The Midwife or Downton take it? I know the time shift on some programmes is huge!
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Miranda trending on twitter already! I can see both Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys ratings being huge!
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