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HO: Xmas (may contain spoilers)
So the HO christmas SL is about the Mcqueens and te baby on the doorstep.
From the spoilers, it says a note will be left which say 'To Daddy, Merry Christmas'. So who do you think the baby for? I know some suggested the baby might be for Pheobe and I thought that would be good. The affect the whole Deena thing had on Pheobe could be properly explored, she could confide in Jacqui etc. Maybe the note is misleading, and Pheobe just wrote 'Daddy' so noone would suspect her. |
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See now I thought it was Phoebe too. But the day of Rhys' funeral I'm sure she was stood on the stairs of the McQueens house wearing a dress and belt with no baby bump?
At the least she wasn't wearing that awful coat, which I originally thought was covering up the bump. Last edited by Nushi : 19-12-2012 at 02:51. Reason: Added comment |
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When could Phoebe have had a baby? Has she even dated a guy much less had sex since she's been on the show? And I thought they got to her before anything happened when she was captured by the sex traders. Of course this IS Hollyoaks and they can go back and change what we saw on screen or pretend it never happened. It's been done before.
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no they got there intime 4 George, but she had been there alot longer ....i think it will b john pauls!
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When could Phoebe have had a baby? Has she even dated a guy much less had sex since she's been on the show? And I thought they got to her before anything happened when she was captured by the sex traders. Of course this IS Hollyoaks and they can go back and change what we saw on screen or pretend it never happened. It's been done before.
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When could Phoebe have had a baby? Has she even dated a guy much less had sex since she's been on the show? And I thought they got to her before anything happened when she was captured by the sex traders. Of course this IS Hollyoaks and they can go back and change what we saw on screen or pretend it never happened. It's been done before.
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I think it's barts, the mother will be the girl from Amsterdam.
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I think it's barts, the mother will be the girl from Amsterdam.
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I think it's barts, the mother will be the girl from Amsterdam.
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Amsterdam was only 3 months ago, so they'd need to have met before that.
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Yes, its probably JP.
So I'm assuming the mother lives in Dublin so how does she know where he lives or that his not in Dublin. If Craig not involved anymore, he won't know if JP moved back to Chester. I guess I shouldnt over think these things. |
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If it's like a previous Corrie plot where a baby was left on the doorstep of one of the houses, the mother will think the father lives in that house but he doesn't.
So it could just be a way of leaving a baby over Christmas for Myra to call Jesus! |
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I agree with those who think it's John-Paul's.
John-Paul is returning, having broken up with Craig for some off-screen reason. Could it be that he cheated on Craig with a woman, and they broke up when the woman turned up to reveal that she was pregnant? It's the only explanation I can come up with. The baby's certainly not Nana's, not Myra's, not Carmel's, not Mercedes', not Jacqui's, not Michaela's, not Phoebe's. And if the note referring to Daddy is true, then it can only be Bart or John-Paul. I think it would be incredibly lame if they try to make out it's Bart's, because there's simply no logical timeframe that would allow that to be a reality. Whereas John-Paul could've been getting up to all sorts off-screen. |
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Does anyone remember what month the homeless / rape thing with phoebe happened?
She definitely did get raped / have sex with someone when she was homeless she told lacey not long ago didnt she? It could be john pauls but if it is i will not be happy one bit! It would make more sense for it to be craigs as he was bisexual whereas JP was always gay. Unless he was hugged straight of course... |
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Oh godh yeah, my timing sucks! LOL Emm surely it is something to do with John-Paul then?
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Yes, its probably JP.
So I'm assuming the mother lives in Dublin so how does she know where he lives or that his not in Dublin. If Craig not involved anymore, he won't know if JP moved back to Chester. I guess I shouldnt over think these things. Quote:
I agree with those who think it's John-Paul's.
John-Paul is returning, having broken up with Craig for some off-screen reason. Could it be that he cheated on Craig with a woman, and they broke up when the woman turned up to reveal that she was pregnant? It's the only explanation I can come up with. The baby's certainly not Nana's, not Myra's, not Carmel's, not Mercedes', not Jacqui's, not Michaela's, not Phoebe's. And if the note referring to Daddy is true, then it can only be Bart or John-Paul. I think it would be incredibly lame if they try to make out it's Bart's, because there's simply no logical timeframe that would allow that to be a reality. Whereas John-Paul could've been getting up to all sorts off-screen. A drunken one night stand on JPs part, followed by a pregnancy "I'm sorry Craig" - all forgiven then until the child is born and JP wants to be involved scenario springs to mind. I am more interested in the return of Dr B. the Mercedes/Dr B celebration and the effect it will have on other residents and who Myra throws out into the cold following a revelation. |
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Speaking of that girl from amsterdam,will Sinead ever found out that Bart also did the dirty on her?
well i suppose its unlikely since the only other witnesses are now dead! |
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I agree with those who think it's John-Paul's.
John-Paul is returning, having broken up with Craig for some off-screen reason. Could it be that he cheated on Craig with a woman, and they broke up when the woman turned up to reveal that she was pregnant? It's the only explanation I can come up with. The baby's certainly not Nana's, not Myra's, not Carmel's, not Mercedes', not Jacqui's, not Michaela's, not Phoebe's. And if the note referring to Daddy is true, then it can only be Bart or John-Paul. I think it would be incredibly lame if they try to make out it's Bart's, because there's simply no logical timeframe that would allow that to be a reality. Whereas John-Paul could've been getting up to all sorts off-screen. ![]() Maybe it was another of Rhys's shags that doesn't realise he's dead. Or something Bart got up to nine ten months ago that we never saw because at that point they hadn't decided about baby Jesus!I don't think in this scenario, the mum is actually going to be important, it's more to do with the dad. But just guessing. |
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But... but he's gay and when he firstly and lastly had sex with a women he cried! I would imagine he'd have to be totally gone for him to go there again and not er... everything always works when mega drunk!!!
![]() Maybe it was another of Rhys's shags that doesn't realise he's dead. Or something Bart got up to nine ten months ago that we never saw because at that point they hadn't decided about baby Jesus!I don't think in this scenario, the mum is actually going to be important, it's more to do with the dad. But just guessing. You can't get more full extent than having a kid with someone! You're absolutely right about JP not liking sex with women - and crying after forcing himself to do it with Hannah. But this is BK. There's no limit to what he could come up for this JP! More than one has said, how would any woman in Dublin know the exact house JP's family live in, in Hollyoaks?! Answer - a vengeful Craig told her! ( I just came up with that one!) Dunno why BK would want to lumber JP with a baby, though, specially with his plans for a 'dark' JP this time round! |
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I guess Craig could of been seeing a woman and she found out about him and JP?
Though really I think my two bets are Phoebe or JP. |
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My guess is that it is JP's... but through sperm donation to a friend desperate for a child who then decides she can't cope with it.
It's unlikely, but not impossible! |
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Speaking of that girl from amsterdam,will Sinead ever found out that Bart also did the dirty on her?
well i suppose its unlikely since the only other witnesses are now dead!
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My guess is that it is JP's... but through sperm donation to a friend desperate for a child who then decides she can't cope with it.
It's unlikely, but not impossible! It's only because JP has arrived back around the same time that anyone thinks it IS anything to do with JP. And because he's the only bloke living in that house who would fit the note being addressed to 'Daddy;' (seeing as apparently Bart shagged someone only three months ago) Who would be the suspect if JP was still with Craig in Dublin? |
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Doesn't it say, after Christmas, for one episode 'Jacqui learns the full extent of Rhys's infiedlity' - oir something like that?
You can't get more full extent than having a kid with someone! You're absolutely right about JP not liking sex with women - and crying after forcing himself to do it with Hannah. But this is BK. There's no limit to what he could come up for this JP! More than one has said, how would any woman in Dublin know the exact house JP's family live in, in Hollyoaks?! Answer - a vengeful Craig told her! ( I just came up with that one!) Dunno why BK would want to lumber JP with a baby, though, specially with his plans for a 'dark' JP this time round! Re JP, Turkey Baster, Dublin - I guess it's HO so you could never fully say no that wouldn't happen
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I kind of thought with Rhys they pretty much muddied his name (or took him back to old Rhys before Jacqui!), so another shag which resulted in a baby, wouldn't be out of place. But I vaguely remember another spoiler saying they're about to call social services when the father is revealed. So felt the father was alive! But I guess he doesn't have to be, to be revealed, if someone else knows what's going on.
They always seem to have deprive Jacqui of a baby and the men she's with always seem to impregnante someone else, so maybe this time they'll just give her Rhys's baby to keep her happy! |
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But... but he's gay and when he firstly and lastly had sex with a women he cried! I would imagine he'd have to be totally gone for him to go there again and not er... everything always works when mega drunk!!!
![]() ![]() It doesn't necessarily mean you're gay. ![]() Now that I've lowered the tone sufficiently ( ), you're right that pretty much anything can be justified if the character was supposed to be drunk at the time.I just feel like making the baby the result of a random tryst in Bart or Rhys's past is a bit of a cop out. Making it JP's actually syncs up quite well and creates a bit of drama, plus some added depth to his character. But who knows what they'll come up with. The poor babe might not even be a McQueen. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess. I just hope they don't make it entirely unbelievable like they have with some of their recent storylines. |
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), you're right that pretty much anything can be justified if the character was supposed to be drunk at the time.