Oh not that again! She's whined all the way through
Everything was 'hard' for her. She's such a diva - and she never mastered Latin.

And you judge what dance competitions? She mastered heel leads, bent knees for tango, swivels in Charleston and tonnes more.. Do tell with your extensive background how someone who wasn't a dancer now id best left

The lifts were incredible - well done Denise.

Of course she is a professional

No just my phone autocorrects words that are correct..

Is this thread available with subtitles?

btw best showdance ever on scd

It's like the policeman in Allo Allo.

She didn't do any lifts. James did them all and he's been doing that for years.

I like the Dadaist poetry approach to the naming of this thread. Still have no idea what it means.

gonna scream seriously do you think being.lifted llike that is easy?? Your totally insane then get someone to try even a pro and they'd struggle you need core strength, balance and pose to get it to look as seemless as Denise and James did so back the hell off

Same here - I read it about four times and still couldn't make head or tail of it.

Yes James has all those attributes so all he needs to do is teach his partner how to distribute her weight. Personal attacks go right over my head and are not worthy of response. I think this type of dancing is a lot easier for women than men.

Denise wasn't starting from scratch, though. I assumed she was going to be very good as soon as I saw that she was going to be in Strictly. There was no surprise with Denise (apart from the fact that for a 'pro' she didn't half bang on - about how she wasn't an experienced dancer, how many hours she and James were training, how hard it all was...etc). What lost the glitterball for Denise and James was the constant whittering about everything. Had they kept their mouths shut and their focus on their dancing, I honestly think they could have won it. Instead, it seemed like every day there was a new whinge from Denise and/or James.

I've watched a lot of TV talent shows over the years and the people who tend to win are the ones who just get on with it. No whinging, no nonsense, just doing what they're supposed to and doing it well (see Denise's husband for a case in point). The ones who make all the fuss tend to lose out.

I think you are underestimating what the liftee has to do while being lifted. There is quite a lot more to it than just distributing their weight. I don't think, therefore, that it is easier for women than men to actually do once they have learned what they have to do. Having said that, I would accept that it is easier for the women to learn because teaching a liftee when you are the lifter is going to be easier than teaching the lifter when you are the liftee.

I agree on both counts. There was nothing easy for Denise in those lifts. They demanded incredible core strength, which James cannot teach her, and her mounts and dismounts were seamless, which Dani's certainly weren't.

But it must be true that when you first start learning lifts, it is easier for a female celeb to literally put themselves in the hands of a male pro than it is for a female pro to entrust herself to an untrained celeb. That said, Louis probably had a headstart over most male celebs with his tremendous balance, coordination and strength in his legs and upper body.

That's the only outfit you can wear for Hannah Kartunen type show dancing, and Denise is the first celebrity ever to have tried it and pulled it off.

Shudder at memories of Lisa Snowden trying with Brendan and being dubbed 'bacofoil' - cruel, but deserved.


Denise had the wow factor tonight, and for dancers she won the series. The glitterball went to the popular boy, but Denise will be remembered for two fantastic dances.


James - awesome!! Hope Ola massages away all your aching muscles tomorrow!

You really need to get over Gethin not winning.

sofakat, that's a miouuw worthy of a cross tabby.


Denise has been a brilliant contestant all along, but not once has she been a professional dancer; she had to learn all the moves and the details, and not even professionals get everything 100% right all the time.

It was incredible. I've re-watched it about five or six times already.

It was also everything that Lisa and Brendan would have wished they had done when they did the infamous bacofoil showdance. It was the anti bacofoil.

but still very hard to learn and she and James deserve some respect

There's been some drivel written on here this series, but claiming that Denise's showdance was easy for her has to be the dumbest thing anyone has ever written.

As a dance it wasn't my cup of tea, but it certainly was an awesome performance by both Denise and James.

Does anyone think the title is like a telegram message paid by the word, from a hack whose small change is running out?

I agree. Try doing that plank thing on one arm, now lift your top leg up as high as you can lift it and hold it for as long as you can. Get out of it gracefully, then immediately do a few dance moves. Add a bit of stress, fear of heights, having to do it in time to music and it is not easy.




Having said that, some of the the lifts in Dancing on Ice, where the female basically sits in the male professionals arms and crosses their legs - look much easier than actually ice skating. But the ones that require core strength, balance or extensions are really difficult.



I dance myself, have the same kind of background as DVO as I do jazz/ lyrical and could never do those lifts

Self-basting.