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Winner - Olympic Factor
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alan29
23-12-2012
Top off.
Pose-n-lift.
Worked for some people it seems.
bornfree
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“"man" shame that olympian, this weekend, has turned into a dirty word ”

Only if that olympian happens to be Louis and is a winner. Honestly what is this world coming to.
madetomeasure
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Precisely I actually liked Kimberley at the beginning, but her style of dancing started to bore me. Denise, I couldnt take seriously because I believed she shouldnt have been on SCD. IMO she deprived someone of a place. To me she is a professional dancer. From day one when I saw her dancing to me it was like watching professionals.”

It didn't help her cause when Darcey called her a true professional and that she danced like one - whoops
thenetworkbabe
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I think that had Louis competed any other year - perhaps even next year, he wouldn't have won. I think that the Olympics played a massive part in it. I think that if Louis hadn't had the fresh Olympic factor, that Kimberley would have won.

Post your opinions ”

We don't know where his vote came from, or why it was more motivated than a big Denise or Kimberley fan base. I doubt if its olympic success generally, and he didn't get major coverage compared to even Victoria, but it may be because every young gymnast in the country knows who is, watched him win silver, and regards him as a heroine. It may help him too poach from what would otherwise be Dani's fanbase.

However, its also perfectly possible that people vote for muscles, lack of shirts, or any male by default - and he's the only male left to vote for for anyone who wants a male winner. You only have to look at the X factor 2012 to note that being able to do best what the show is about isn't a deciding consideration.

Its also possible that a decent looking young male gymnast could win even if he had fallen off his apparatus in the Olympics. The fitness, strong arms and legs have obvious utility. He can lift easily. The gymnastics moves add wow factor, its not been seen before on SCD and no one else can do it. For some reason people give him lots of credit for doing simple gymn moves that many much younger gymnasts could do too. Lisa or Jonny doing a handstand or showing great arm strength might deserve lots of credit, but an olympic performer??

its also possible he just won because no one else could get their support moving. Both Kimberley and Denise had problems with their vote which were never that logical and both failed to produce a big enough wow dance to change the tide's direction.In the final Louis deployed new moves using his gymn ability - whilst both girls used a lot of material seen before. They also split the vote of anyone who preferred both of them to Louis, and may have split it more because their dances were of similar quality. Dani was written out of the final, so there was no one else with much of a journey story either for people who like those either..
jinx2
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
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However, its also perfectly possible that people vote for muscles, lack of shirts..”

I don't like lack of shirts, I thought Artem was much sexier when he had the waist coat on than when he's completely topless.
As for Louis I know he's 22 but to and old gal like me he seems far too young (immature and not in a horrible way, just young) to fancy clothed or not.
yenston
23-12-2012
It certainly helped. The BBC are obsessed with the Olympics. They assume everyone is a fan. I didn't watch one second of the Olympics, which might be why I didn't "get" Louis. I'm not really impressed by Olympians and the hero worship they get. However, I think Louis would probably have won if he'd taken part in another year. When the celebs were announced it was really only between him and Nicky Byrne who had a chance. Nicky turned out to be not as good as expected so Louis was the obvious winner.
Cherrybomber
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I think that had Louis competed any other year - perhaps even next year, he wouldn't have won. I think that the Olympics played a massive part in it. I think that if Louis hadn't had the fresh Olympic factor, that Kimberley would have won.

Post your opinions ”

I think it helped him, as did being very personable and doing some fab dancing.
Cherrybomber
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Top off.
Pose-n-lift.
Worked for some people it seems.”

i doubt it. I think men like women for their physicality far more than women like men for that alone.

It's one thing that causes confusion between the sexes.
bornfree
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“i doubt it. I think men like women for their physicality far more than women like men for that alone.

It's one thing that causes confusion between the sexes.”

Exactly, my thinking too.
Dilly 1
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I think that had Louis competed any other year - perhaps even next year, he wouldn't have won. I think that the Olympics played a massive part in it. I think that if Louis hadn't had the fresh Olympic factor, that Kimberley would have won.

Post your opinions ”

I voted for Louis EVERY week but no, not because of the Olympic factor as I barely took any more notice of him than I did any other Olympian. My reasons for voting for him varied from him dancing with my favourite pro, to him standing out from the others, to him putting in some great performances and to him coming across as being a very decent guy.
All qualities that I would like in ANY other competitor regardless of occupation or celeb status.

What stopped Kimberley from winning last night wasn't the fact that Louis was an Olympian and she wasn't.... but more that he just completely outshone her in every way and the public voted for him because of it. I'd say up until last night the momentum was with Kimberley but Louis was just too good on the night.
Kolin Klingon
23-12-2012
The "Olympic Factor"?

Well when it comes down to it, it was Louis who has put in years of hard work to be an Olympian in the first place, so that and this has all been Louis' hard work and dedication.
peach45
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“i doubt it. I think men like women for their physicality far more than women like men for that alone.

It's one thing that causes confusion between the sexes.”



Very good point, and one that so many find hard to grasp.

I think Louis is a very nice looking young guy, and looks pretty good without his top on but even though I can appreciate that, I don't fancy him, and it did not factor AT ALL into why I loved those performances and thought he deserved to win.

Really wish they'd stop harping on about it.

And as for the Olympics being a reason why he won, I don't think it had anything to do with it.
madetomeasure
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Kolin Klingon:
“The "Olympic Factor"?

Well when it comes down to it, it was Louis who has put in years of hard work to be an Olympian in the first place, so that and this has all been Louis' hard work and dedication.”

Exactly
bobajot
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Cherrybomber:
“i doubt it. I think men like women for their physicality far more than women like men for that alone.

It's one thing that causes confusion between the sexes.”

That's interesting but inaccurate. I'm straight I wanted Louis to win - go figure. It wasn't because of his Olympic success either I wouldn't have recognised him before SCD. It was the contrast between his down to earth honesty and the make believe world of most of the other celebs. I liked his performances from the first week. My second favourite was Lisa sex-bomb she ain't.
Cherrybomber
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“That's interesting but inaccurate. I'm straight I wanted Louis to win - go figure. It wasn't because of his Olympic success either I wouldn't have recognised him before SCD. It was the contrast between his down to earth honesty and the make believe world of most of the other celebs. I liked his performances from the first week. My second favourite was Lisa sex-bomb she ain't.”

I cannot understand your argument that what you say makes what I said inaccurate.

I dont say all men do one thing or another, neither do I say it was because of his olympic success that Louis won.

I liked Lisa, as do many others, men and women, nothing to do with her being a sex bomb.
Are you confused?
Lindy_Loue
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Kolin Klingon:
“The "Olympic Factor"?

Well when it comes down to it, it was Louis who has put in years of hard work to be an Olympian in the first place, so that and this has all been Louis' hard work and dedication.”

100% agree
hansue
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“Exactly ”

And as you posted yesterday - these sour grapes taste very bitter. Why can't people accept the Louis won because the GBP enjoyed his performances.
madetomeasure
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by hansue:
“And as you posted yesterday - these sour grapes taste very bitter. Why can't people accept the Louis won because the GBP enjoyed his performances.”

they don't like positivity Hansue - they bleat about the GBP not liking anything that's positive when it comes to using Denise as an example. However, now Louis has won, you can't be positive, you have to be on a downer and agree with them or you're not being reasonable
len112
23-12-2012
I thought Denise's dance style was frantic and lumpy , Kimberly had a more flowing style , but Louis showed the most progression and actually showed that he could dance rather well .
Damahepa
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by lechatnoir:
“Whichever "Young Hunk" would have taken his place in the the 14 person line-up of course

If not, then Victoria because she's an OLYMPIAN”

Because of course the hideously ugly and decrepitly aged Kimberley didn't do a thing for the men who watch SCD O.o Even if she was the ony 2012 hero taking part, there is no way Victoria Pendleton would have won. Maybe SOME of her votes were for being an olympian, and likewise for Louis, and some of his votes may have been given to her had he not been involved, but ultimately, I reckon Denise may have powered up with the best dancer vote, Dani had she not blown it with the nerves, or Kimberley if you wanted to pick the best dancer that wasn't Denise
hansue
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by madetomeasure:
“they don't like positivity Hansue - they bleat about the GBP not liking anything that's positive when it comes to using Denise as an example. However, now Louis has won, you can't be positive, you have to be on a downer and agree with them or you're not being reasonable ”

How right you are. I think for a young man who was not in the entertainment industry he came such a long way and he deserved to win but you will never convince some people on here. Still it wouldn't be a forum if every one agreed. What I dont like is some of the nasty comments that have been made. Its quite unnecessary.
nanscombe
23-12-2012
I didn't watch any of the Olympics (apart from one of Usain Bolts races, ie about 10 seconds ), but thought he was doing all right through most of the competition.

Did I want him to win last night? Yes, because he was the only bloke left and he won it for us lads.

But was it the fact that he was an Olympian that won it?

Or simply that he was a highly trained, and disciplined, gymnast?
Mystical123
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I think that had Louis competed any other year - perhaps even next year, he wouldn't have won. I think that the Olympics played a massive part in it. I think that if Louis hadn't had the fresh Olympic factor, that Kimberley would have won.

Post your opinions ”

There are a couple of threads on this already. I've posted somewhere else that I think this is the case. Or at least it would have been a closer final, obviously he'd still have had a chance of winning. It certainly wouldn't have been the foregone conclusion this year was.


I'd certainly be very interested to see a young, attractive Olympian doing the show next year and see how he fares in the popularity stakes...

Originally Posted by hansue:
“And as you posted yesterday - these sour grapes taste very bitter. Why can't people accept the Louis won because the GBP enjoyed his performances.”

The majority of those members of the GBP who voted enjoyed his performances, that's not the whole of the GBP, so don't generalise please.
Fairynuff
23-12-2012
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I think that had Louis competed any other year - perhaps even next year, he wouldn't have won. I think that the Olympics played a massive part in it. I think that if Louis hadn't had the fresh Olympic factor, that Kimberley would have won.

Post your opinions ”

Lewis was the best on the night and thoroughly deserved his win....this year, next year, whenever. If your thoughts were correct then Victoria would have been in the final too! Kimberley wasn't even second best on the night anyway. Showdance was very average.
Jazminesky
24-12-2012
To be fair, Girls Aloud fan base is a lot larger then Louis's. They have a tour next year across 10-15 dates (not sure exactly how many). They are playing th 02 three times which has a capacity of 16,000 people. Furthermore, Kim's best friend Cheryl Cole has over 3 million followers on twitter, I'm sure Kim gained a lot of votes their too.

Louis, in contrast, may hold the publics pride in him, but that does not automatically constitute a fan base. just check out twitter, Kim, had a lot more followers compared to Louis.

To be honest, the average number of fans Kim has to Louis would roughly be the same, so technically they cancel one another out.

Therefore, I find it a bit unfair to insinuate the only reason Louis won is either because of the Olympics or that he is good looking.


I strongly believe he raised the bar In the final and Kimberley couldn't keep up. I personally think Kim only had a 3 good dances. Whereas Louis had 5. Having said that, Kim's tango was brilliant! I was waiting for her to do a proper dance without gimmicks and she did it! That dance was one of my favourites after Louis Showdance, Salsa and Charleston.
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