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BBC+1 - When ?
Andy Birkenhead
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As far as I can see, BBC1, BBC2, BBC3 and BBC4 are the only channels without a +1.
Isn't it time these cannels had a +1 ?
It would alleviate clashing problems.
Isn't it time these cannels had a +1 ?
It would alleviate clashing problems.
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They're a large cancer on the EPG as it is. We don't need more.
Plus ones exist for two reasons, to maximise ad revenue, and as "placeholders" to stop other broadcasters buying up channels - neither of these apply to what the BBC does.
You could use the spectrum for far more useful original channels
Commercial broadcasters launch +1's as I believe that they can leverage more ad revenue for very little in the way of programming cost.
The BBC does not rely on advertising, and have a very good and highly-functional iPlayer service instead
^^^^ This
They certainly should be scrapped on sites with Freeview Lite where there is more limited number of channels available.
It is rare for the channels with a "+1" service to have anything worth recording. It is not usually necessary with the number of repeats everywhere.
This^^^
I wish they would, too. It'd solve a lot of scheduling clashes. Sadly, the BBC have spent too much money on Iplayer to cave in to public demand with +1 channels.
Thirded (or probably fourthed by now) about the fact I also want to record programmes rather than rely on Iplayer.
+1 channels are just giving you an extra chance to see something. They can only help. They're never a hinderance and not everything gets repeated, especially BBC1 programmes.
A case in point is tonight's Outnumbered Xmas special which they've clashed with some good output on C4. I see their programmes get a repeat within the week - although for Peep Show, before now this series, it didn't - but there's no reason why BBC1 couldn't have shown Outnumbered again when lots of their other Xmas shows do.
Thats a very slim market, unless you record a huge amount, versus the potential of new channels.
NEVER?
They are using up very limited spectrum which could be used by other channels?
Given the level of repeats anyway on the major channels, you are actually showing a lot of programmes 4 times, as they are shown once, and then repeated on the same channel, then the same again on +1 channels
So that's two distinct broadcast times per week. That's not a problem when there's 24hrs in a day.
And the +1 channels on satellite use less bandwidth than a regular channel anyway. It may well be the same situation on Freeview and cable, and most likely is on Freeview. And they're more use to me than several shopping channels.
Or "+whenever they get their arse in gear"
Yes - but this should be built into the functionality of the epg, rather than existing as a separate channel.
So, you have a recording clash, Sky+ or FreeSat+ knows that there's a delayed feed that can help resolve this. The future is really in the reverse epg, ie you look forward a week, as of now; but, you can also look back a week, and record/watch what you want by pulling it from the broadcaster's server. Likewise, rather than have a delayed channel wit its own now & next, the main channel would have now, next and previous!
But for live viewing, all the BBC iPlayer channels can be rewound by 2 hours, effectively giving you up to a +2 channel.
So like a recordable Iplayer. Trouble is, I'd rather not have it DOGged. Then again, that's a rarity if you watch some HD channels when they unnecessarily stick a logo on to tell you what you know.
You could say that about HD taking up Freeview space, in both PQ terms and using DD5.1 in films (except ITV)
Ah, I see what you mean. I can do that on my PC but haven't tried it on my TV or XBMC.
So do PVRs, narrative repeats, video on demand, Sky+ and iPlayer.
Even more so in fact as many allow the viewer more control and flexibility rather than being tied to an inflexible schedule.
And +1 channels have limited use for programmes over 60 mins where you realise that you have just missed 65 mins of an 80min programme.