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Is going from Android to Apple a step back?
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ACU
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by chenks:
“so that give you stock android then?
when i said "remove skin" i meant remove HTC sense (or Samsung equivalent etc).

installing a launcher will do that?”

It wont physically remove the skin from the phone, however it will remove the skin from the interface. Have a look at the screenshots of something like Go Launcher and Nova Launcher in the play store. For something really cool have a look at SPB Shell 3D. Once you install a launcher, it removes sense/touchwiz etc from the interface.

They wont give you stock android, if you want that buy a nexus device (or root your phone and put on a pure android rom).
alanwarwic
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“Wow, you're trying to start a 3 dimensional debate”

Well, the thread title is "Step back".

The OP probably now knows what he's doing and it would be interesting to know his decision thoughts..
Anika Hanson
02-01-2013
It depends, a step back in terms of features and customisibility, but a step up in terms of reliability, fluidity and ecosystems.
paulbrock
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by 12december1984:
“ Windows Phone 8 is a very nice OS too-in fact it really shows up iOS for the 'dated' look it has-it's been 'sunny' and 23c for the last five years haha!”

Random designy thing... HTC phone shots nearly always use the time 10:08 on their large digital clock widget.
https://www.google.com/search?q=htc%...=wi&authuser=0

Conventional analog clocks/watches will usually be photographed at the same time, which is probably where the HTC thing came from. (or sometimes 10 to 2, which looks v similar)
https://www.google.com/search?q=watc...&tbm=isch&sa=X

Sunshine is obvious, but I bet that 23 degrees has been determined to be the most 'attractive' looking temperature.
niceguy1966
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Random designy thing... HTC phone shots nearly always use the time 10:08 on their large digital clock widget.
https://www.google.com/search?q=htc%...=wi&authuser=0

Conventional analog clocks/watches will usually be photographed at the same time, which is probably where the HTC thing came from. (or sometimes 10 to 2, which looks v similar)
https://www.google.com/search?q=watc...&tbm=isch&sa=X

Sunshine is obvious, but I bet that 23 degrees has been determined to be the most 'attractive' looking temperature.”

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but the iPhones static weather icon isn't the same as a marketing decision about what time to show on a photo.
paulbrock
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but the iPhones static weather icon isn't the same as a marketing decision about what time to show on a photo.”

what makes you think its different? Do you think they just picked 23 deg out of a hat?
Stiggles
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by Dark 1:
“No, you don't. You can make your own. Rename an .m4a file as .m4r. Details available via Google.”

So much for simplicity eh?
niceguy1966
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“what makes you think its different? Do you think they just picked 23 deg out of a hat?”

The difference is that on a real HTC phone, the clock (and weather widget) works, i.e. it shows the time (and the weather).

The Apple weather icon always shows the same display, even if its -10 and snowing outside.
chenks
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“The Apple weather icon always shows the same display, even if its -10 and snowing outside.”

i guarantee that if it was added all we would get it constant complaints about how this is draining the battery - no win situation really.
Pretinama
02-01-2013
Both Android and iOS have their advantages. I use both: iOS on my iPhone/iPad and Android on my Nexus 7. I don't think that going from Android to iOS is going backwards (nor do I think the other way around). I think that there will be some things you'll miss, e.g. widgets and some customisability but to be honest, when I use my phone I just like to use my phone. When it comes to hardware, there is clearly a lot more choice with Android devices, though again, iPhone is simple, clean and easy to use (I don't though, like the new iPhone 5 as it looks too 'stretched' to me).
grumpyoldbat
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“The difference is that on a real HTC phone, the clock (and weather widget) works, i.e. it shows the time (and the weather).

The Apple weather icon always shows the same display, even if its -10 and snowing outside.”

It's 23 and sunny somewhere!
chenks
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“It's 23 and sunny somewhere! ”

and a static clock is at least correct once a day (and sometimes twice a day).
BKM
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“The difference is that on a real HTC phone, the clock (and weather widget) works, i.e. it shows the time (and the weather).

The Apple weather icon always shows the same display, even if its -10 and snowing outside.”

That's the difference between icons (which are static) and widgets (which can run code - but use the battery!). IOS has not got widgets - Android has!
alanwarwic
02-01-2013
"Simple, clean, easy,beautiful, reliability, fluidity and ecosystems."
It's certainly not small on 'executive' superlatives.

Very much a sideways step.
ishAppy
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I don't understand why other companies don't make premium phones in smaller packages as there is clearly a good market for it. Maybe they aren't able to?”

There is the S3 Mini now.
kidspud
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by ishAppy:
“There is the S3 Mini now.”

Yes, but it isn't very good.
Stiggles
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Yes, but it isn't very good.”

Eh?

Its perfectly good! Its till a hell of a powerful phone!
alan1302
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Eh?

Its perfectly good! Its till a hell of a powerful phone!”

The S3 mini? Is it not a dual core 1Ghz processor it has?
alanwarwic
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Yes, but it isn't very good.”

The S2 is better cause its bigger. That's your sentiment sized.

Talking of phones, why do we still use the word smartphone when obviously, N4 and such like are surely phablets?
PencilBreath
02-01-2013
After using the S3 for a few months now, I could not go back to a smaller screen like the iphone 5 has.
kidspud
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Eh?

Its perfectly good! Its till a hell of a powerful phone!”

Sorry, what I meant by that is I do not consider it a premium phone, I thought it was going to be, but it isn't. You are right, it is good.

Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“The S2 is better cause its bigger. That's your sentiment sized.

Talking of phones, why do we still use the word smartphone when obviously, N4 and such like are surely phablets?”

BIB, I don't understand what point you are trying to make. I didn't mention the S2.
Stuart_h
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Random designy thing... HTC phone shots nearly always use the time 10:08 on their large digital clock widget.
https://www.google.com/search?q=htc%...=wi&authuser=0

Conventional analog clocks/watches will usually be photographed at the same time, which is probably where the HTC thing came from. (or sometimes 10 to 2, which looks v similar)
https://www.google.com/search?q=watc...&tbm=isch&sa=X

Sunshine is obvious, but I bet that 23 degrees has been determined to be the most 'attractive' looking temperature.”

Its known as 'happy time' ..... hands at 10 and 2 look like the face is smiling. This has strangely been a tradition carried across to digital times too. Dave Gorman does part of his stand up tour 'set' discussing this - along with Samsungs use of a fictional use of a Twitterer called "Rick Stivens" in all their promo shots ..... although no longer fictional worth following if you are a twitter fan (along with following Mr Gorman himself)
ishAppy
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Its known as 'happy time' ..... hands at 10 and 2 look like the face is smiling. This has strangely been a tradition carried across to digital times too. Dave Gorman does part of his stand up tour 'set' discussing this - along with Samsungs use of a fictional use of a Twitterer called "Rick Stivens" in all their promo shots ..... although no longer fictional worth following if you are a twitter fan (along with following Mr Gorman himself)”

Isn't that the time every clock photo has used in catalogues or something for all of time?
Stuart_h
02-01-2013
Originally Posted by ishAppy:
“Isn't that the time every clock photo has used in catalogues or something for all of time?”

yep. exactly. its a tradition. Its no longer relevant on digital (as it doesnt look smiley) but its been continued regardless.... which is kind of nice
Hugh_
02-01-2013
This question is impossible to answer, let's not forget Googles Android OS is not like Apples OS. Bassically there are many many versions of Googles OS right now. Not all apps/games will run on all versions.

An if you do get the latest version and wait for all your apps to be updated then Google will update the OS again and lots of things will stop working. What works right now on jellybean will probably be screwed up by key lime pie which is due sometime soon. But then you need to wonder will your phone even get the next update?

Google have just abandoned there own nexus s, which isn't even 2 years old.
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