[keep.flyin]

need to set up MIL's talktalk email on her tab 2. Any ideas how to do it?

[flagpole]

open the email client, (not the gmail client,) and put the details in.

[keep.flyin]

Tried that, it won't recognise the details. Tried putting in the pop3 settings and that won't work either. Just wondered if anyone on talktalk had used their isp email on a tab 2 and if so how.

[JeffG1]

Does Talktalk use a different protocol to everyone else then? And is the Email app different on the Galaxy tab 2 to other Android tablets?

Otherwise, I don't understand why you can't get it to work. I have my ordinary email (admittedly not TalkTalk) set up on my three Android devices (Galaxy S2 phone, Nexus 7 and Motorola Xoom) as POP3 without problem. Obviously they are all set not to delete from the server, otherwise I would lose them and not be able to file on my PC (my main email client).

[chenks]

Originally Posted by JeffG1

I have my ordinary email (admittedly not TalkTalk) set up on my three Android devices (Galaxy S2 phone, Nexus 7 and Motorola Xoom) as POP3 without problem. Obviously they are all set not to delete from the server, otherwise I would lose them and not be able to file on my PC (my main email client).

you should be using IMAP rather than POP

[JeffG1]

Originally Posted by chenks

you should be using IMAP rather than POP

There was a good reason I used POP rather than IMAP.

If I remember correctly it was because there was no option to leave stuff on the server. I lost several emails before I realised what was happening.

Remember, for me reading emails on one or other of my Android devices is a convenience when I'm not at my PC. My emails are filed on my PC using Thunderbird, and only then deleted from the server.

Which brings me to my main bugbear with some implementations of the Android email app: on my phone I can set up to automatically Bcc myself when I send an email so I have a record of outgoing emails on my PC. On both my tablets there is no such option in Settings and I have to remember to manually Bcc myself when I send a message.

[flagpole]

Originally Posted by JeffG1

There was a good reason I used POP rather than IMAP.

If I remember correctly it was because there was no option to leave stuff on the server. I lost several emails before I realised what was happening.

Remember, for me reading emails on one or other of my Android devices is a convenience when I'm not at my PC. My emails are filed on my PC using Thunderbird, and only then deleted from the server.

IMAP was specifically designed for the scenario you are describing. IMAP will never take the mail off the server, unless you tell it to, just mark it as read.

[keep.flyin]

It's something to do with the talktalk protocol using port 25 I think. Can set up my non google email (plusnet) with no issues. Think we've got it so it will work from her home, always had issues with the talktalk email when she's here. Did tell her talkttalk were not the best ISP to go with!

[JeffG1]

Originally Posted by keep.flyin

Did tell her talkttalk were not the best ISP to go with!

Before my move to BT Infinity, I accidentally ended up with TalkTalk which took a fair bit of getting rid of.

My first ISP was Demon, then when they became too big I switched to Freedom2Surf. They got taken over by Tiscali who got taken over by Opal who eventually became TalkTalk.

So you can get TalkTalk as an ISP without even trying!

[flagpole]

it is possible that you can't access talktalk's smtp servers from outside their network. they are shit like that.

i've seen this before with tiscali, and they even set the spf record to stop you using another smtp server.

[JeffG1]

Originally Posted by flagpole

IMAP was specifically designed for the scenario you are describing. IMAP will never take the mail off the server, unless you tell it to, just mark it as read.

Ok I believe you. Maybe it was something else then. All I know is that it didn't work for me, or was too difficult to set up. POP3 was straightforward and gets email for me: all I need in a protocol!

I don't see why IMAP should be any better or behave any differently. It's not going to solve the automatic Bcc problem as far as I can see.

[Anika Hanson]

I have the same problem with every email I've set up on android. I can recieve emails but I can't reply to them or send new emails. I've even tried to download alternative email clients but it still doesn't work. I have to sign in using the web browser if I want to send emails. Strange as I've never had this problem with iOS of blackberry.

[JeffG1]

Anika - you don't say who your ISP is, or how you've set up your email. What are your outgoing settings? You need to set your correct outgoing SMTP server (from your ISP), Security type to None and Port 587. Then you need your user name and password (also from your ISP).

I see you've managed to set this up on other OSs, so you must have the correct info. Very odd.

[chenks]

Originally Posted by JeffG1

Ok I believe you. Maybe it was something else then. All I know is that it didn't work for me, or was too difficult to set up. POP3 was straightforward and gets email for me: all I need in a protocol!

I don't see why IMAP should be any better or behave any differently. It's not going to solve the automatic Bcc problem as far as I can see.

IMAP is designed so that your email is the same no matter which device you use.

all mail is stored on the server at all times.

if you use IMAP on all devices you shouldn't need to BCC yourself as the sent items folder will be identical on every device you use.

[SkipTracer]

Originally Posted by keep.flyin

Tried that, it won't recognise the details. Tried putting in the pop3 settings and that won't work either. Just wondered if anyone on talktalk had used their isp email on a tab 2 and if so how.

I remember what my long departed mother used to say about not believing everything you read in the newspaper, well the same goes for forum too.

TalkTalk works perfectly well on my Samsung Tab 2 10.1 and here are the setting you will need.

http://help.talktalk.co.uk/app/answe...0and%20android

You will need to follow the procedure for ICS 4.0 as these are the same for JellyBean, well I suppose they are because it works on my JB tab.

You will need to use TLS security and set up in manual mode.

Just to make thing’s a little bit clearer because it can be a bit of a confusing pain putting in email setting’s, on the first page of manual set up after selecting POP 3 for incoming mail select “NONE” in the security type box then on the next page “out going mail” select TLS for security type.

[flagpole]

Originally Posted by SkipTracer

I remember what my long departed mother used to say about not believing everything you read in the newspaper, well the same goes for forum too.

TalkTalk works perfectly well on my Samsung Tab 2 10.1 and here are the setting you will need.

http://help.talktalk.co.uk/app/answe...0and%20android

You will need to follow the procedure for ICS 4.0 as these are the same for JellyBean, well I suppose they are because it works on my JB tab.

You will need to use TLS security and set up in manual mode.

it's odd that you would assume that you know more than everyone else.

[SkipTracer]

Originally Posted by flagpole

it's odd that you would assume that you know more than everyone else.

No I just know how to use help menu’s, that’s all and when I read the OP’s problem I had a quick look as to why it does not work because I only use my TT email for receiving when on the go and do any replying through Gmail but now having looked into this I can do either now.

[keep.flyin]

Well got the emails downloading, hopefully they will also send when on the normal talktalk service.