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Things like this need to be exposed, its part of the reason Rangers are where they are.
The biggest indictment of Traynor is just reading the nonsense he comes out with in his own columns. |
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Watched the game ... very disappointed. No one else seems to agree with me but I thought james Forrest was a waste of space and the worst Celtic player - apart from Ambrose - on the field.
Why did Celtic keep whipping in quick crosses and not have a big man alongside Hooper? |
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To be honest, I don't really see an awful lot in those revelations. It's good practice to e-mail someone you've done an interview with to make sure they're happy with the quotes before it goes to press. It suggests some minor conflict of interest if he was also looking for a job at Rangers at the time, but I don't think it's any more than that.
The biggest indictment of Traynor is just reading the nonsense he comes out with in his own columns. Don't recall ever reading or listening to Traynor on Radio Scotland on why he was looking to go to Rangers under Whyte, the man his paper exposed in June 2011. A huge amount of damage has been done to Scottish Football both on the pitch, off it and in the press and someone's fingerprints are all over it. |
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Forrest can not play in a role like last night. He doesnt have enough in his game to be used in such a way.
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Looking for a job at Rangers in January 2012 a month before the club entered administration?
Don't recall ever reading or listening to Traynor on Radio Scotland on why he was looking to go to Rangers under Whyte, the man his paper exposed in June 2011. A huge amount of damage has been done to Scottish Football both on the pitch, off it and in the press and someone's fingerprints are all over it. |
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I wonder what other journalists are wondering 'Am I next?'
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Traynor's Response:
ONCE again Rangers are the subject of an article by Alex Thomson, who appears obsessed by this club's business. This time, however, he turns his attention on me in a most callous and disgusting manner. Fortunately I've been the target of many bloggers many times because of the well, let's just say strident way I've gone about my work. So, if you give it out you have to take it back. This is one of the unwritten laws of journalism but this person's blog cannot pass without comment. Incredibly, it's allowed to sit under Channel 4's name. This man has set himself up as a paragon of integrity yet he relies on Craig Whyte as a credible source. Does he not know the former Rangers owner is under Crown Office investigation? Thomson publishes the content of emails in which I make it clear to Whyte that a story about his spending plans will start with the figure of £15m for new players. It was necessary to let Whyte view the piece so that it would be difficult for him to try to deny it later. Of course he did try just the same but he knows he said it. I know he said it and so, too, should Thomson. If he's spoken to Whyte he'll also know what this man is like. The email was sent not because Whyte was being given editorial approval, as Thomson appears to be making out, but because I wanted Whyte to see the figure. Also, show me a journalist who hasn't used these methods to extract further information and I'll show a hack who wasn't doing his job. It is necessary to get close to people in football if you are to gain possession of the intelligence required to do the job properly. And that brings me on to Thomson's other point. He claimed I asked Whyte for a job. How utterly absurd. This blogger conveniently forgets to mention it was my work, along with that of the Daily Record's Keith Jackson, which finally exposed Whyte and brought him down. We had been gathering information about the Ticketus deal and also Whyte's failure to hand over PAYE and NI. It was a long process and vital that the line of communication with Whyte remained open. The fact is he asked me to come and work with him on more than one occasion. He also asked if I would advise him privately. A game was being played out and working for Rangers at that time wasn't the goal. In fact, I kept my newspaper informed of the offers through a senior editorial executive because it was important they were on side with the operation. I also made sure a senior person at the BBC, with whom I had a contract, also knew. One or two trustworthy colleagues also were made aware of what was going on and we actually laughed at the very thought of me working with someone we were determined to expose. On any other day I'd have dismissed this latest blog without comment but this is a special time for Rangers. We are a year on from administration and are putting in place a solid structure under the new regime. Rangers have released a documentary on that crucial year on this very site and that's what we should all be concentrating on. Enjoy, and stop worrying about bloggers. One thing missing from the response - the threat of legal action. |
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Traynor's Response:
He claimed I asked Whyte for a job. How utterly absurd. This blogger conveniently forgets to mention it was my work, along with that of the Daily Record's Keith Jackson, which finally exposed Whyte and brought him down. We had been gathering information about the Ticketus deal and also Whyte's failure to hand over PAYE and NI. It was a long process and vital that the line of communication with Whyte remained open. The fact is he asked me to come and work with him on more than one occasion. He also asked if I would advise him privately. A game was being played out and working for Rangers at that time wasn't the goal. In fact, I kept my newspaper informed of the offers through a senior editorial executive because it was important they were on side with the operation. I also made sure a senior person at the BBC, with whom I had a contract, also knew. One or two trustworthy colleagues also were made aware of what was going on and we actually laughed at the very thought of me working with someone we were determined to expose. As for his claim that it was Jangle and him that took Whyte down, what a load of shite. All they did, ironically enough, was steal off of bloggers. |
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The 'not guilty' pleas of Myra Hindlay and Ian Brady were more convincing than that. We are really supposed to believe that Jabba was just spinning him a line to keep him onside? Not a chance in hell. Why would Jabba need to keep in contact with Whyte if he was going to expose him? Whyte wouldn't exactly be volunteering information about Ticketus and not paying the PAYE to Traynor would he?
As for his claim that it was Jangle and him that took Whyte down, what a load of shite. All they did, ironically enough, was steal off of bloggers. Remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN3rEcwC41M |
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First game back for Kenny Shiels after a four game ban and he's sent to the stands.
He went to kick a water bottle but missed it, still at least he could bring Neil Lennon into it. |
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Just wanted to give Celtic credit for last night, 0-3 is no true reflection of the game. I've also never seen so much grappling go unpunished at corners. He booked 4 players over grappling before the kicks were taken but never had the balls to give a penalty. Anyway they had a go. Didn't sit back just Juve were experienced and clinical. Celtic just couldn't break them
down. What's the thoughts on Lennon's team selection? |
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Just wanted to give Celtic credit for last night, 0-3 is no true reflection of the game. I've also never seen so much grappling go unpunished at corners. He booked 4 players over grappling before the kicks were taken but never had the balls to give a penalty. Anyway they had a go. Didn't sit back just Juve were experienced and clinical. Celtic just couldn't break them
down. What's the thoughts on Lennon's team selection? Glad we gave it a go rather than sit back and wait. |
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Just wanted to give Celtic credit for last night, 0-3 is no true reflection of the game. I've also never seen so much grappling go unpunished at corners. He booked 4 players over grappling before the kicks were taken but never had the balls to give a penalty.
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What's the thoughts on Lennon's team selection?
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Just wanted to give Celtic credit for last night, 0-3 is no true reflection of the game. I've also never seen so much grappling go unpunished at corners. He booked 4 players over grappling before the kicks were taken but never had the balls to give a penalty. Anyway they had a go. Didn't sit back just Juve were experienced and clinical. Celtic just couldn't break them
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Originally Posted by Paul Murray, Ex Rangers Director
I was criticised by some of the fans too, probably with good reason, because we didn’t manage to save the club.
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![]() My own thought exactly. A real Jeckyll and Hyde that player
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![]() My own thought exactly. A real Jeckyll and Hyde that player ![]()
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Hooper for England! Big Lurch too! Wanyama's worth at least £20m+
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Just wanted to give Celtic credit for last night, 0-3 is no true reflection of the game. I've also never seen so much grappling go unpunished at corners. He booked 4 players over grappling before the kicks were taken but never had the balls to give a penalty. Anyway they had a go. Didn't sit back just Juve were experienced and clinical. Celtic just couldn't break them
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ONCE again Rangers are the subject of an article by Alex Thomson, who appears obsessed by this club's business.... The general Scottish media's lack of proper investigation into Rangers' business was a disgrace. |
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This is what Jim Traynor wrote in the Daily Record in June...
NO more than a good John Greig clearance away from Hampden one of the world’s oldest clubs lies dying. And no one on Hampden’s sixth floor even bats an eyelid. Rangers FC as we know them are dead. It’s all over. They are about to shut down for ever but not a single person among the game’s hierarchy was open for comment. Rangers are guilty. Of course they are. They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA. Yesterday the CVA proposal put forward on behalf of Charles Green by administrators Duff and Phelps was rejected by HMRC. They didn’t even wait until tomorrow’s creditors’ meeting, although that will still go ahead. But Rangers FC won’t. They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch although their fans will insist the history will be boxed up with the strips and balls and carried into the future with the new club. beautiful stuff, I wonder how he would try to deny that if he was confronted with it now? Although to be fair to Big Jabba if any of us were offered over £2,000 a week to write fantasy stories on the Sevco Website we'd all take it and deny anything we said before.
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Hooper for England! Big Lurch too! Wanyama's worth at least £20m+
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This is what Jim Traynor wrote in the Daily Record in June...
NO more than a good John Greig clearance away from Hampden one of the world’s oldest clubs lies dying. And no one on Hampden’s sixth floor even bats an eyelid. Rangers FC as we know them are dead. It’sg all over. They are about to shut down for ever but not a single person among the game’s hierarchy was open for comment. Rangers are guilty. Of course they are. They’re cheats and liars. Everybody knows that. They can’t help themselves, it’s in their DNA. Yesterday the CVA proposal put forward on behalf of Charles Green by administrators Duff and Phelps was rejected by HMRC. They didn’t even wait until tomorrow’s creditors’ meeting, although that will still go ahead. But Rangers FC won’t. They’ll slip into liquidation within the next couple of weeks with a new company emerging but 140 years of history, triumph and tears, will have ended. No matter how Charles Green attempts to dress it up, a newco equals a new club. When the CVA was thrown out Rangers as we know them died. They were closed and a newco must start from scratch although their fans will insist the history will be boxed up with the strips and balls and carried into the future with the new club. beautiful stuff, I wonder how he would try to deny that if he was confronted with it now? Although to be fair to Big Jabba if any of us were offered over £2,000 a week to write fantasy stories on the Sevco Website we'd all take it and deny anything we said before. |
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I am sure that as a man of his word he stands by every word, or maybe there were quite a lot of misunderstandings !
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