Sandaza tried to do a deal behind Rangers' back, asking to be sent a contract offer without Rangers' knowledge.

Which is something we all do when looking for a new job.

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I asked you the other night, and you didn;t answer, so I'll ask you again.

From whom was the history bought?

They owned shares in a company, you cannot own shares in a club, you own part of a plc, guess what the c stands for

the players contracts will also have been with the company

the trophies, awards, ceremonial cups, bikes, paintings yadda yadda were all awarded to the club though

hence all the players being free to leave while all the shiny shiny stayed where it is

either way it matters not a jot, you're not going to change your mind and neither am I, like Callum says though it's quite funny the lengths some people will go to over something they claim no longer exists

You were answered

No I wasn't.

The administrators of the old company sold the club to Green's company. The history goes along with the rest of the club. It wasn't bought separately.

Well if you need it in crayon then the 'history' you're on about was bought from the oldco, which you and everybody else quite clearly already know

like I said in my first reply though, define history

Well, as I see it the new club are defining history as the 54 titles the old club won.

The club won! Not the company! The company did not win anything. The company did not win a Cup Winners Cup, the company did not win nine titles in a row, the company did not win trebles. The club won these.

So just to confirm then your opinion is it is impossible to own shares in a football club?

That being the case why did the Rangers support go mental when Whyte sold the Arsenal shares? After all they weren't shares in a football club, they were only shares in a company that owned Arsenal.

The company OWN the club lmao

therefore the company OWN the 'history' of that club

therefore the company can sell the club and the history to whoever they want, just like they did

it's blindingly obvious lol

Arsenal shares work in an completely different way from most other clubs, but you know this already

We hold our 'history' dear, the support went mental because those shares were part of it, again you know this already

do you deal exclusively in rhetorical questions?

So they could sell the club to Dermot Desmond who would then own the 'history' and Dermot Desmond could then close down the club sell the 'history' to Celtic and Celtic would then have 97 league titles?

The club is the company, without the club there is no company.

This is utter nonsense and has been created to pretend that the same club exists. It doesn't.

Trying to move the goalposts there are we???

It would seem so.

It seems history can be bought and sold.

Any club that has financial difficulties doesn;t need to sell players any longer, they can just sell a little bit of their history.

There are a couple of Scottish Cups available if anyone wants to throw money at Dunfermline!

No, the titles belong to Rangers, Dermot Desmond could buy Rangers (not entirely sure how the monopoly thing would come in to play but let's just ignore that for the moment) but they would continue to be Rangers

You cannot buy one without the other, Rangers go with their titles, the titles go with Rangers

simple enough?

The club and the company are quite separate things, one of them is a registered company and the other is a football club, it baffles me you can keep the green tints on to this level, ridiculous and hilarious

I don't know how to get different quotes on this so everythings going on this one

I'm not moving any goalposts, we had those shares for a century, they were ours, most of them were gifts, the anger was at the selling off of those gifts

but still Arsenal are owned by a parent company, same as Rangers

I'll buy the getting to the semi finals of the Fairs Cup in 1968/69 and 'sell' it onto my local amateur side. What an amazing achievement that is for a village football team. So proud of them.

No, not simple at all.

If a company 'owns' something, you said that the company OWN the history of that club then the ability to sell it is also there.

No what I said was

"The company OWN the club lmao

therefore the company OWN the 'history' of that club"

they have the ability to sell the club they own, and through that the history of that club

Except Celtic changed their company name - does that mean that the club also died when that happened??

The company number never changed.

It's the company number which identifies the company from it's incorporation.

Yawn......

this thread really is tedious,

would it be possible for two obsessed sets of fans to actually talk about something else for a little while