Any league structure could create a "pointless match" though.

The best thing would be to have two promotion/relegation places to and from the SPL though. Or is that too simple an idea?

Yes, be thankful to St Mirren and Ross County that this dog's dinner wasn't voted through.

Much of the package seems to have merit, but the 8/8/8 is a piece of bullshit and one could spend all day giving scenarios why.

Probably few structures though could be designed to have quite so many meaningless matches ( and right in the middle of the season ) or at least meaningful only to one team. Hey ho, my points are getting stripped, I'll try again in a few weeks when it matters again !

I think only Scottish football could have the aptitude to come up with such a structure

I agree, you should keep the 2 divisions separate and have 2 up, 2 down or 1 up, 1 down plus a play-off.

Why not with the 12-12 and then 8-8-8 idea, keep the points for the middle tier, from games already played against their fellow clubs in the middle 8.

I do agree btw with the fact that resetting the points for the middle 8 isn't ideal, although obviously if they kept all the points the top 4 from SFL1 would have more points, having gained them from easier opposition!

Just making the point that any league structure can mean there are pointless games, including the one Scotland have at the moment.

sfl say no thanks to sfa offer of assistance


http://www.scottishfootballleague.co...-statement-96/
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Except of course that it was tried elsewhere first.

Seriously though, what do we want? We don't want 10 because it is too few teams, we don't want 12 because it means we have to have a split, we don't want 14 because it means we will play each other 3 teams and we don't want 16 as it means only 30 matches unless we have a split after 30 games.

theres not enough money in our game to change the league to a decent set up

they are ****ed whatever they do imo

outwith celtic and rangers there is barely any interest in scottish football

gates and viewing figures will vouch for this

I think that there are merits and demerits re keeping points earned against fellow middle 8 members.

1) OK, you are carrying forward some matches with meaning, but it could have an ironic twist, One team could have done not too bad against the very top teams ( all points scrubbed ) and finished the first 22 matches ahead of a team that had almost all its points from the bottom teams ( points kept ), so their positions would be reversed, possibly just because one team had the "right" on form days.

2) Presumably it is only fair that the middle 8 have equal 14 total home and away matches against each other. But once you carry forward 6 of these, you then only have another 8 to go post split, giving them just a 30 match season.

So, I can actually see that causing more problems again.

And, again, you can't keep all points from the first 22 matches. It's not that it wouldn't be ideal, it would have a quite absurd advantage to the second tier teams joining the middle 8 - no you just can't count points from a different tier.

No, the whole 8/8/8 proposal is pretty awful and as far as I can see trying to tinker with it just brings up other issues.

My own possible tinkering, if anyone wants a laugh, would be to start the middle 8 with bonus points ( eg. 4 for 9th in tier 1, 3 for 10th, 2 for 11th, 12th and 1st and 2nd in tier 2, 1 for 3rd in Tier 2 and 0 for 4th ).

Pro : gives teams more to aim for pre the split and while keeping what would be the potential bottom 2 and top 2 in a normal promotion / relegation set up on level points, would distinguish these above the bottom 2 and below the top 2.

Con : Most of the nation's eyes roll at another complication to the ( arguably ) already complex system !

Another possibility for a middle 8 would be to weight the points, a simple example being to double the points of the teams from the top division. This would preserve any advantage a team had gained over others who were in its division in the first part of the season. Of course it would another complication. Just a thought, since we're blethering!

Neil Lennon confirns he will not appeal the decision yesterday as he doesnt want to miss the cup final, however if he hears any managers swearing in the dugout he'll report them to the SFA.

Anthony Stokes will be offered a new deal.

Whats this about Green departing Rangers?

Channel 4 journalist just tweeted that Green is to stand down, nothing else at the moment

What about 16 with a 6 10 split after 30 games?

The top 6 could play each other home and away. Sky would still get 4 old firm games and the fans would get a 16 team league.

Did someone play Zadok The Priest over the PA at Ibrox?


The the top 6 play 40 league games and the bottom 6 39 games?

Green the saviour on his way. You have to laugh


Keep it going Craigy boy

What's wrong with that? Still more than they play now

http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headli...ctorate-change

next up ...rumours about next ceo
doncaster anyone?

The 8-8-8 thing seems to get dismissed out of hand, as if it's some bizarre nonsensical system that only a Professor of Mathematics could understand.

It's hardly that complicated, is it? It's basically just playoffs, but instead of playing home and away knockout ties you use a league system. There's actually a good case for saying that using a league system for playoffs is a much fairer way of doing it than using knockout ties - we've seen that frequently in England where a team was miles ahead of their opponents in the league, but still lost due to the random luck and circumstance that can influence a one off tie.

Maybe bit harsh to single him out - afterall its all generally accepted in football (despite what your man said it wouldn't be in most work places..)

Are we going to see loads of players banned for swearing at officials/players etc.

I guess there wouldn't be many left to play the games!!

Jabba as Chief Excecutive?

Not harsh, stupid.

You go to any game up and down the country and you will hear players and managers swearing.

Now the SFA are in the position where if a fan complains Vincent Lunny has to investigate and take action.

does jabba have the credentials to take Scotland's most successful club forward ?
if so then good shout

surely its up to craig whyte who becomes the new CEO?

no, it will be up to green and the other shareholders and or the current board

even after green steps down he will still be majority shareholder with 8% of shares

so unless he sells them to whyte(who wont be allowed to buy) i cant see how its up to him

You've changed your tune since the other night haven't you?